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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:12 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:It's already looking like chaos is coming in some form. It's the older persons vs the younger persons, Scotland and N. Ireland vs Engand & Wales, it's nationalism vs globalism. It's an interesting tale about to be told.

And an increasing number of racist/xenophobic attacks by Brexitians.

I swear, did they take a page out of Donald Trump's current campaign playbook? It sure feels like they did!

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Hurdegaryp wrote:It's not my desired outcome either, believe it or not. It would be unwise to underestimate the sheer stupidity of humans, though.

You gotta love humanity. Look what we made, isn't it pretty!

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:21 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:And an increasing number of racist/xenophobic attacks by Brexitians.

I swear, did they take a page out of Donald Trump's current campaign playbook? It sure feels like they did!

Different nations, yet exactly the same tribal sentiments. People simply can't be trusted anymore, but I'm afraid it's going to take a while for the machines to take over.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:26 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:I swear, did they take a page out of Donald Trump's current campaign playbook? It sure feels like they did!

Different nations, yet exactly the same tribal sentiments. People simply can't be trusted anymore, but I'm afraid it's going to take a while for the machines to take over.

Well, I think part of it is how the message is marketed. You make people afraid of the unknown, afraid that someone else is taking "their" country away from them, make them feel like the problem is those coming to your shores for a better life, and tell everyone the only way to fix it is to build a wall or separate yourself from everyone else. If they simply said, "Fuck off, foreigners. We don't want your kind here," I think people would feel a tad differently about it. If you don't make people feel like they're racist, even if they are, they'll more likely go with the racist sentiments.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:26 pm

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Gallade wrote:Sadly for some, the UK's collapse into chaos is not the desired outcome, here.

It's not my desired outcome either, believe it or not. It would be unwise to underestimate the sheer stupidity of humans, though.


Time to but UK behind retaliatory tariffs that begin after two years, starts at 1%, and after that tariff raises by single percent per year. *nods*
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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:33 pm

Immoren wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:It's not my desired outcome either, believe it or not. It would be unwise to underestimate the sheer stupidity of humans, though.


Time to but UK behind retaliatory tariffs that begin after two years, starts at 1%, and after that tariff raises by single percent per year. *nods*

Should get interesting in 200 years.
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Postby Gallade » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:34 pm

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Hurdegaryp wrote:Different nations, yet exactly the same tribal sentiments. People simply can't be trusted anymore, but I'm afraid it's going to take a while for the machines to take over.

Well, I think part of it is how the message is marketed. You make people afraid of the unknown, afraid that someone else is taking "their" country away from them, make them feel like the problem is those coming to your shores for a better life, and tell everyone the only way to fix it is to build a wall or separate yourself from everyone else. If they simply said, "Fuck off, foreigners. We don't want your kind here," I think people would feel a tad differently about it. If you don't make people feel like they're racist, even if they are, they'll more likely go with the racist sentiments.

The mindset of a sheep doesn't justify killing a mother and a fantastic MP because she disagrees with your xenophobic views, at the end of the day.

I respect that the UK made a choice. I respect that the majority of those voters were more informed than the media likes to let on. I don't agree that age should disqualify a view. But that angry, racist, violent minority. Screw em. Screw em hard.
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Hurdegaryp wrote:It's not my desired outcome either, believe it or not. It would be unwise to underestimate the sheer stupidity of humans, though.


Time to but UK behind retaliatory tariffs that begin after two years, starts at 1%, and after that tariff raises by single percent per year. *nods*

Oh, they'll join the EFTA and be subject to the EU quotas and regulations anyway. S'all good.
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Postby Italios » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:37 pm

Gallade wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:Well, I think part of it is how the message is marketed. You make people afraid of the unknown, afraid that someone else is taking "their" country away from them, make them feel like the problem is those coming to your shores for a better life, and tell everyone the only way to fix it is to build a wall or separate yourself from everyone else. If they simply said, "Fuck off, foreigners. We don't want your kind here," I think people would feel a tad differently about it. If you don't make people feel like they're racist, even if they are, they'll more likely go with the racist sentiments.

The mindset of a sheep doesn't justify killing a mother and a fantastic MP because she disagrees with your xenophobic views, at the end of the day.

I respect that the UK made a choice. I respect that the majority of those voters were more informed than the media likes to let on. I don't agree that age should disqualify a view. But that angry, racist, violent minority. Screw em. Screw em hard.
Immoren wrote:
Time to but UK behind retaliatory tariffs that begin after two years, starts at 1%, and after that tariff raises by single percent per year. *nods*

Oh, they'll join the EFTA and be subject to the EU quotas and regulations anyway. S'all good.

The best part is that if the UK and EU can't reach an agreement at the end of a two-year negotiation period about their leaving, they'll have to comply with this world organisation standard and still get a bunch of tariffs on traded products. I think for all the trouble and instability it was worth, they should've stayed in the EU.

On the other hand, the relatives just left. They were really sweet but the dog lowkey hated them, which is never a good sign. :p
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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:37 pm

Gallade wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:Well, I think part of it is how the message is marketed. You make people afraid of the unknown, afraid that someone else is taking "their" country away from them, make them feel like the problem is those coming to your shores for a better life, and tell everyone the only way to fix it is to build a wall or separate yourself from everyone else. If they simply said, "Fuck off, foreigners. We don't want your kind here," I think people would feel a tad differently about it. If you don't make people feel like they're racist, even if they are, they'll more likely go with the racist sentiments.

The mindset of a sheep doesn't justify killing a mother and a fantastic MP because she disagrees with your xenophobic views, at the end of the day.

I respect that the UK made a choice. I respect that the majority of those voters were more informed than the media likes to let on. I don't agree that age should disqualify a view. But that angry, racist, violent minority. Screw em. Screw em hard.


Agreed. I really have nothing else to say about that view.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:37 pm

Gallade wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:Well, I think part of it is how the message is marketed. You make people afraid of the unknown, afraid that someone else is taking "their" country away from them, make them feel like the problem is those coming to your shores for a better life, and tell everyone the only way to fix it is to build a wall or separate yourself from everyone else. If they simply said, "Fuck off, foreigners. We don't want your kind here," I think people would feel a tad differently about it. If you don't make people feel like they're racist, even if they are, they'll more likely go with the racist sentiments.

The mindset of a sheep doesn't justify killing a mother and a fantastic MP because she disagrees with your xenophobic views, at the end of the day.

I respect that the UK made a choice. I respect that the majority of those voters were more informed than the media likes to let on. I don't agree that age should disqualify a view. But that angry, racist, violent minority. Screw em. Screw em hard.

It is apparently a really big angry, racist, violent minority over there in old Blighty. Oswald Mosley would be proud.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:40 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Gallade wrote:The mindset of a sheep doesn't justify killing a mother and a fantastic MP because she disagrees with your xenophobic views, at the end of the day.

I respect that the UK made a choice. I respect that the majority of those voters were more informed than the media likes to let on. I don't agree that age should disqualify a view. But that angry, racist, violent minority. Screw em. Screw em hard.

It is apparently a really big angry, racist, violent minority over there in old Blighty. Oswald Mosley would be proud.

We have whole US states that feel a similar was to that really big angry, racist, violent minority over there in Old Blighty, as you say. And it really is just sad.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:42 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:It is apparently a really big angry, racist, violent minority over there in old Blighty. Oswald Mosley would be proud.

We have whole US states that feel a similar was to that really big angry, racist, violent minority over there in Old Blighty, as you say. And it really is just sad.

Sometimes I do fear the day when it is no longer possible to contain the situation with words and reason alone.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:45 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:We have whole US states that feel a similar was to that really big angry, racist, violent minority over there in Old Blighty, as you say. And it really is just sad.

Sometimes I do fear the day when it is no longer possible to contain the situation with words and reason alone.

The "Bulworth" philosophy is one I can agree with:

"Rich people have always stayed on top by dividing white people from colored people, but white people got more in common with colored people then they do with rich people. We just gotta eliminate them. White people, black people, brown people, yellow people, get rid of 'em all. All we need is a voluntary, free spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody til they're all the same color."
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Postby Italios » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:49 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Sometimes I do fear the day when it is no longer possible to contain the situation with words and reason alone.

The "Bulworth" philosophy is one I can agree with:

"Rich people have always stayed on top by dividing white people from colored people, but white people got more in common with colored people then they do with rich people. We just gotta eliminate them. White people, black people, brown people, yellow people, get rid of 'em all. All we need is a voluntary, free spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody til they're all the same color."

I guess you could call it....

The miscegenation generation.
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Postby Gallade » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:49 pm

Italios wrote:
Gallade wrote:The mindset of a sheep doesn't justify killing a mother and a fantastic MP because she disagrees with your xenophobic views, at the end of the day.

I respect that the UK made a choice. I respect that the majority of those voters were more informed than the media likes to let on. I don't agree that age should disqualify a view. But that angry, racist, violent minority. Screw em. Screw em hard.

Oh, they'll join the EFTA and be subject to the EU quotas and regulations anyway. S'all good.

The best part is that if the UK and EU can't reach an agreement at the end of a two-year negotiation period about their leaving, they'll have to comply with this world organisation standard and still get a bunch of tariffs on traded products. I think for all the trouble and instability it was worth, they should've stayed in the EU.

On the other hand, the relatives just left. They were really sweet but the dog lowkey hated them, which is never a good sign. :p

Always trust your dog. Especially if there's the line "can you put your dog out". :p

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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:51 pm

Italios wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:The "Bulworth" philosophy is one I can agree with:

"Rich people have always stayed on top by dividing white people from colored people, but white people got more in common with colored people then they do with rich people. We just gotta eliminate them. White people, black people, brown people, yellow people, get rid of 'em all. All we need is a voluntary, free spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody til they're all the same color."

I guess you could call it....

The miscegenation generation.

Yes, yes you could! :D
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Postby Italios » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:53 pm

Gallade wrote:
Italios wrote:The best part is that if the UK and EU can't reach an agreement at the end of a two-year negotiation period about their leaving, they'll have to comply with this world organisation standard and still get a bunch of tariffs on traded products. I think for all the trouble and instability it was worth, they should've stayed in the EU.

On the other hand, the relatives just left. They were really sweet but the dog lowkey hated them, which is never a good sign. :p

Always trust your dog. Especially if there's the line "can you put your dog out". :p

The dog lives here. You don't. Leeeeeeave.

They loved the dog, but the dog didn't return the feeling. She let them hold her and pet her but if she was skulking around under the table during lunch and felt a leg she freaked.

She has a particular hatred for men. Something about men scares her.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:56 pm

Italios wrote:
Gallade wrote:Always trust your dog. Especially if there's the line "can you put your dog out". :p

The dog lives here. You don't. Leeeeeeave.

They loved the dog, but the dog didn't return the feeling. She let them hold her and pet her but if she was skulking around under the table during lunch and felt a leg she freaked.

She has a particular hatred for men. Something about men scares her.

Are you the first owners of said dog?
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Postby Italios » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:59 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Italios wrote:They loved the dog, but the dog didn't return the feeling. She let them hold her and pet her but if she was skulking around under the table during lunch and felt a leg she freaked.

She has a particular hatred for men. Something about men scares her.

Are you the first owners of said dog?

Yes.

She just hates male strangers more than female ones. If she gets to know them she doesn't get scared but if she's just met them she doesn't like them.

Real petty dog, that one.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:04 pm

Italios wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Are you the first owners of said dog?

Yes.

She just hates male strangers more than female ones. If she gets to know them she doesn't get scared but if she's just met them she doesn't like them.

Real petty dog, that one.

Animals have personalities, just like human beings.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:05 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Italios wrote:Yes.

She just hates male strangers more than female ones. If she gets to know them she doesn't get scared but if she's just met them she doesn't like them.

Real petty dog, that one.

Animals have personalities, unlike human beings.


Fixed that for you~
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:17 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Animals have personalities, unlike human beings.

Fixed that for you~

Oh, you scoundrel!
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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The Holy Therns wrote:Fixed that for you~

Oh, you scoundrel!

You rapscallion!
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:19 pm

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Hurdegaryp wrote:Oh, you scoundrel!

You rapscallion!


Oh you...
Oh you...
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:22 pm

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Hurdegaryp wrote:Oh, you scoundrel!

You rapscallion!

Is this supposed to be amusing, insolent scallywag?
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Veceria » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:24 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Abserdia wrote:You rapscallion!

Is this supposed to be amusing, insolent scallywag?

Scorbut.
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