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Postby Abserdia » Thu May 26, 2016 2:07 pm

I'm sweaty and scared of necromorphs right now. Give me encouraging words for the future and Dead Space 2.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu May 26, 2016 2:09 pm

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The Princes of the Universe wrote:And you want to die because...? :eyebrow:

I live in a 50/50 conservative/liberal area. I live in the 50% conservative side. My family is center-right.

I can see wanting to leave (if not for New York City, I have few doubts that the hillbillies around here would have us legislated like Louisiana), but die? Isn't that a bit extreme? :unsure:
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Postby Astrolinium » Thu May 26, 2016 2:13 pm

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Well, there's nothing wrong with any of that, and if you need any help with coming to terms with this, there's a lot of people here who are not straight and would be happy to help with learning and support.


Nice to meet you, Astrol... and I am still trying to figure this out, but once I do maybe I'll need help or maybe I need help now I have no idea.
Not like I've done this before.


Nice to meet you as well. Discovering you're Not StraightTM is definitely a confusing thing to go through, and society doesn't actually do anything to prepare you for it, since most of society's members either never encounter it or suppress it when they do. The most important thing is to keep an open mind about yourself.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu May 26, 2016 2:13 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
The V O I D wrote:I live in a 50/50 conservative/liberal area. I live in the 50% conservative side. My family is center-right.

I can see wanting to leave (if not for New York City, I have few doubts that the hillbillies around here would have us legislated like Louisiana), but die? Isn't that a bit extreme? :unsure:


It seems like the preferable alternative to outing myself as panromantic in a conservative neighborhood full of kids bigger, stronger and faster than me.

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Postby The V O I D » Thu May 26, 2016 2:15 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Nice to meet you, Astrol... and I am still trying to figure this out, but once I do maybe I'll need help or maybe I need help now I have no idea.
Not like I've done this before.


Nice to meet you as well. Discovering you're Not StraightTM is definitely a confusing thing to go through, and society doesn't actually do anything to prepare you for it, since most of society's members either never encounter it or suppress it when they do. The most important thing is to keep an open mind about yourself.


Well, I am emotionally/non-sexually attracted to anyone [including the guy friend I almost kissed, I think. Maybe. Still trying to figure out if it was an 'in the moment thing'], but I am sexually attracted to women. I mean, I don't find the guy friend I almost-kissed sexually attractive. I just... like him?

Fuck you, genetics! This is the worst time to drop a bombshell like this on me!

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu May 26, 2016 2:15 pm

The V O I D wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:I can see wanting to leave (if not for New York City, I have few doubts that the hillbillies around here would have us legislated like Louisiana), but die? Isn't that a bit extreme? :unsure:

It seems like the preferable alternative to outing myself as panromantic in a conservative neighborhood full of kids bigger, stronger and faster than me.

You don't have to come out in public if you don't feel like you're in a place where you can do so safely. It's your business, not theirs.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 26, 2016 2:17 pm

The V O I D wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:I can see wanting to leave (if not for New York City, I have few doubts that the hillbillies around here would have us legislated like Louisiana), but die? Isn't that a bit extreme? :unsure:


It seems like the preferable alternative to outing myself as panromantic in a conservative neighborhood full of kids bigger, stronger and faster than me.


In my day, kids in homophobic areas waited till they went to college away before outing themselves, as it was a much safer for them to do so in more supportive enviorment.

Also sexual attraction is a lot more fluid than most people like to admit. Just because you wanted to kiss one boy doesn't make you gay. Take your time and you will figure it out.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu May 26, 2016 2:19 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
It seems like the preferable alternative to outing myself as panromantic in a conservative neighborhood full of kids bigger, stronger and faster than me.


In my day, kids in homophobic areas waited till they went to college away before outing themselves, as it was a much safer for them to do so in more supportive enviorment.

Also sexual attraction is a lot more fluid than most people like to admit. Just because you wanted to kiss one boy doesn't make you gay. Take your time and you will figure it out.


Yeah, I kissed quite some guys, but not sexually attracted to them.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu May 26, 2016 2:19 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
The V O I D wrote:It seems like the preferable alternative to outing myself as panromantic in a conservative neighborhood full of kids bigger, stronger and faster than me.

You don't have to come out in public if you don't feel like you're in a place where you can do so safely. It's your business, not theirs.


Yeah. Uh, I'll just do that.

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The V O I D wrote:
It seems like the preferable alternative to outing myself as panromantic in a conservative neighborhood full of kids bigger, stronger and faster than me.


In my day, kids in homophobic areas waited till they went to college away before outing themselves, as it was a much safer for them to do so in more supportive enviorment.

Also sexual attraction is a lot more fluid than most people like to admit. Just because you wanted to kiss one boy doesn't make you gay. Take your time and you will figure it out.


I'm not sexually attracted to guys. I'm emotionally attracted to basically anyone - hence 'panromantic'. The guy I almost kissed was gay [or, he told me he was]. I've also noticed lately I have odd feelings concerning guys and girls, even ones I know who are transgender (all of those kids are the lucky bastards on the liberal side of things qq).

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Postby Italios » Thu May 26, 2016 2:25 pm

The V O I D wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:You don't have to come out in public if you don't feel like you're in a place where you can do so safely. It's your business, not theirs.


Yeah. Uh, I'll just do that.

Ethel mermania wrote:
In my day, kids in homophobic areas waited till they went to college away before outing themselves, as it was a much safer for them to do so in more supportive enviorment.

Also sexual attraction is a lot more fluid than most people like to admit. Just because you wanted to kiss one boy doesn't make you gay. Take your time and you will figure it out.


I'm not sexually attracted to guys. I'm emotionally attracted to basically anyone - hence 'panromantic'. The guy I almost kissed was gay [or, he told me he was]. I've also noticed lately I have odd feelings concerning guys and girls, even ones I know who are transgender (all of those kids are the lucky bastards on the liberal side of things qq).

Like everyone's been saying, sexual attraction isn't always straightforward (pun intended or not, take it not). Some people spend their whole lives knowing their sexuality and some never figure it out completely. Just do what you're comfortable with. Don't feel pressured to behave one way or another because of something you think you are or aren't.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu May 26, 2016 2:27 pm

Italios wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Yeah. Uh, I'll just do that.



I'm not sexually attracted to guys. I'm emotionally attracted to basically anyone - hence 'panromantic'. The guy I almost kissed was gay [or, he told me he was]. I've also noticed lately I have odd feelings concerning guys and girls, even ones I know who are transgender (all of those kids are the lucky bastards on the liberal side of things qq).

Like everyone's been saying, sexual attraction isn't always straightforward (pun intended or not, take it not). Some people spend their whole lives knowing their sexuality and some never figure it out completely. Just do what you're comfortable with. Don't feel pressured to behave one way or another because of something you think you are or aren't.


I just hate things being confusing. I have OCD, sort of. I like order [or things I consider orderly], organization, and understanding. I hate being confused and not knowing things, I hate things being unscheduled or just appearing out of nowhere. And this is literally triggering my OCD because I want to understand where I stand now but I also know I probably won't know where I stand exactly until I figure all of it out, which who knows how long that'll take.

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu May 26, 2016 2:30 pm

The V O I D wrote:I just hate things being confusing. I have OCD, sort of. I like order [or things I consider orderly], organization, and understanding. I hate being confused and not knowing things, I hate things being unscheduled or just appearing out of nowhere. And this is literally triggering my OCD because I want to understand where I stand now but I also know I probably won't know where I stand exactly until I figure all of it out, which who knows how long that'll take.

If there's one thing psychology is most definitely not, it's orderly. Can you get access to a professional (preferably one who isn't a pill-pusher)?
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Postby Veceria » Thu May 26, 2016 2:31 pm

Abserdia wrote:I'm sweaty and scared of necromorphs right now. Give me encouraging words for the future and Dead Space 2.

It always helps to look up rule34 of what scares you.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 26, 2016 2:34 pm

Veceria wrote:
Abserdia wrote:I'm sweaty and scared of necromorphs right now. Give me encouraging words for the future and Dead Space 2.

It always helps to look up rule34 of what scares you.

Or it makes everything so much worse. What works for some may not work for the less depraved at all.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby The V O I D » Thu May 26, 2016 2:35 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
The V O I D wrote:I just hate things being confusing. I have OCD, sort of. I like order [or things I consider orderly], organization, and understanding. I hate being confused and not knowing things, I hate things being unscheduled or just appearing out of nowhere. And this is literally triggering my OCD because I want to understand where I stand now but I also know I probably won't know where I stand exactly until I figure all of it out, which who knows how long that'll take.

If there's one thing psychology is most definitely not, it's orderly. Can you get access to a professional (preferably one who isn't a pill-pusher)?


Well, I was planning to see a psychiatrist anyways to officially diagnose my OCD and stuff. And hopefully I get one who isn't a pill pusher, as well as that patient-doctor confidentiality thing so I can figure this out with them.

Does that work? Maybe? please tell me that works. I need something that is going for me.

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Postby The V O I D » Thu May 26, 2016 2:36 pm

Veceria wrote:
Abserdia wrote:I'm sweaty and scared of necromorphs right now. Give me encouraging words for the future and Dead Space 2.

It always helps to look up rule34 of what scares you.


Good ol' Rule 34. Y'know, Rule 34 has proven all Gods exist at one point or another.

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu May 26, 2016 2:38 pm

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The Princes of the Universe wrote:If there's one thing psychology is most definitely not, it's orderly. Can you get access to a professional (preferably one who isn't a pill-pusher)?

Well, I was planning to see a psychiatrist anyways to officially diagnose my OCD and stuff. And hopefully I get one who isn't a pill pusher, as well as that patient-doctor confidentiality thing so I can figure this out with them.
Does that work? Maybe? please tell me that works. I need something that is going for me.

I'm fairly certain you'll have that assurance.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 26, 2016 2:41 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
The V O I D wrote:Well, I was planning to see a psychiatrist anyways to officially diagnose my OCD and stuff. And hopefully I get one who isn't a pill pusher, as well as that patient-doctor confidentiality thing so I can figure this out with them.
Does that work? Maybe? please tell me that works. I need something that is going for me.

I'm fairly certain you'll have that assurance.

There are laws about these things, after all.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Abserdia » Thu May 26, 2016 2:41 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Veceria wrote:It always helps to look up rule34 of what scares you.

Or it makes everything so much worse. What works for some may not work for the less depraved at all.

And I am definitely not into necromorphs.
I don't want to play Dead Space 2 with that in mind.
Man, remember that one time I saw Isaac and a necromorph doing it? That makes everything so much better.
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Postby Kannap » Thu May 26, 2016 2:41 pm

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 26, 2016 2:43 pm

Kannap wrote:The cat my mother owns is incredibly dumb and unresponsive to anybody.

He's already number one, so why try harder?
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Kannap » Thu May 26, 2016 2:46 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Kannap wrote:The cat my mother owns is incredibly dumb and unresponsive to anybody.

He's already number one, so why try harder?


No cat is ever number one. Cats are horrible animals.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 26, 2016 2:47 pm

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Ethel mermania wrote:
In my day, kids in homophobic areas waited till they went to college away before outing themselves, as it was a much safer for them to do so in more supportive enviorment.

Also sexual attraction is a lot more fluid than most people like to admit. Just because you wanted to kiss one boy doesn't make you gay. Take your time and you will figure it out.


Yeah, I kissed quite some guys, but not sexually attracted to them.


If I may ask, why did you kiss them if you were not sexually attracted to them?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu May 26, 2016 2:47 pm

Kannap wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:He's already number one, so why try harder?

No cat is ever number one. Cats are horrible animals.

That's apparently why your mother's cat works so well as a substitute.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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