US General Election Megathread: Trump vs Clinton

[Ashmoria]

It got pretty vicious for a while (more some of the supporters than Clinton and Sanders themselves though, at least publicly). But at the end of the day, no one (or at least no one sane) wants party infighting to lead to President Trump. Or affect down-ballot campaigns.

and that's the way its supposed to be because we are all democrats. we all want essentially the same thing. it sucks when your preferred candidate loses the nomination but you have to get over it and look to the greater goal. it cant be just about one person.

[Ashmoria]

Sometimes I wonder if Hillary secretly worked a deal with Trump to get him to be the Republican nominee so that he'd lose on purpose. I mean he's the only one out of everyone who ran who has lower ratings than her.

From what I understand about her, being POTUS seems to be more or less her life goal, regardless of what it takes.

I mean, it would be pretty cool being POTUS even though it has to be like the most stressful and hardest to get job out there.

I was a bit of a Bernie fan I'll admit. His policies I'm not too sure about, but he seemed to be at-least the most decent guy out there.

Then again, there's a reason why politicians and CEOs are in the top 10 careers for most sociopaths.

I know what you mean! he is far too involved in making money and far to uninvolved in running for president. who else would talk about the beauty of their new hotel suites instead of commenting on brexit the day after the vote? who else would care so little about international news that they wouldn't even study up on the effects of brexit on the US (instead of thinking that a lower pound would hurt US exports he touted that it would make it easier to go to his golf course!)?

is he really even running for president?

[Maineiacs]

Sometimes I wonder if Hillary secretly worked a deal with Trump to get him to be the Republican nominee so that he'd lose on purpose. I mean he's the only one out of everyone who ran who has lower ratings than her.

From what I understand about her, being POTUS seems to be more or less her life goal, regardless of what it takes.

I mean, it would be pretty cool being POTUS even though it has to be like the most stressful and hardest to get job out there.

I was a bit of a Bernie fan I'll admit. His policies I'm not too sure about, but he seemed to be at-least the most decent guy out there.

Then again, there's a reason why politicians and CEOs are in the top 10 careers for most sociopaths.

I know what you mean! he is far too involved in making money and far to uninvolved in running for president. who else would talk about the beauty of their new hotel suites instead of commenting on brexit the day after the vote? who else would care so little about international news that they wouldn't even study up on the effects of brexit on the US (instead of thinking that a lower pound would hurt US exports he touted that it would make it easier to go to his golf course!)?

is he really even running for president?

No, he's not. He's marketing himself; just like Huckabee and Palin did in '08 and '12.

[Khadgar]

I know what you mean! he is far too involved in making money and far to uninvolved in running for president. who else would talk about the beauty of their new hotel suites instead of commenting on brexit the day after the vote? who else would care so little about international news that they wouldn't even study up on the effects of brexit on the US (instead of thinking that a lower pound would hurt US exports he touted that it would make it easier to go to his golf course!)?

is he really even running for president?

No, he's not. He's marketing himself; just like Huckabee and Palin did in '08 and '12.

He probably thinks he's doing a splendid job marketing himself but he's doing so very badly. Trump brand won't be worth shit after this debacle is over.

[Divitaen]

No, he's not. He's marketing himself; just like Huckabee and Palin did in '08 and '12.

He probably thinks he's doing a splendid job marketing himself but he's doing so very badly. Trump brand won't be worth shit after this debacle is over.

I'm more surprised at how epically his slim "polling lead" over Clinton has completely evaporated after all his financial scandals, fraudulent business dealings, racist remarks against an Indiana judge and vile reaction to Orlando just completely turned off a portion of his own voters. Its a testament to what a poor politician he really is.

[Divitaen]

Sometimes I wonder if Hillary secretly worked a deal with Trump to get him to be the Republican nominee so that he'd lose on purpose. I mean he's the only one out of everyone who ran who has lower ratings than her.

From what I understand about her, being POTUS seems to be more or less her life goal, regardless of what it takes.

I mean, it would be pretty cool being POTUS even though it has to be like the most stressful and hardest to get job out there.

I was a bit of a Bernie fan I'll admit. His policies I'm not too sure about, but he seemed to be at-least the most decent guy out there.

Then again, there's a reason why politicians and CEOs are in the top 10 careers for most sociopaths.

I know what you mean! he is far too involved in making money and far to uninvolved in running for president. who else would talk about the beauty of their new hotel suites instead of commenting on brexit the day after the vote? who else would care so little about international news that they wouldn't even study up on the effects of brexit on the US (instead of thinking that a lower pound would hurt US exports he touted that it would make it easier to go to his golf course!)?

is he really even running for president?

Well, whatever he did, it got him this far against a crowded field of Republicans filled with so many alternatives. He did something right to appeal to GOP primary voters (arguably not very difficult, just be nativist and racist).

[New Jerzylvania]

Believe me when I tell you that Hillary & Elizabeth Warren together in Cincinnati OH totally nailed it this morning, I can tell you that! ...lmao.

HRC must have taken some excellent advice in her meeting with Bernie Sanders last week. Thank God.

She has definitely moved towards the left on economics if this speech is any indication of where the Democratic platform is going. Also, the rip roaring introduction by Elizabeth Warren was just scintillating.

The looks Clinton gave Warren during her intro were very quite approving, possibly even telling of intentions. HRC then started her speech with a five - seven minute rave about Elizabeth's service.

The crowd was as animated and enthusiastic as any crowd I have seen for Hillary this entire election cycle. Clinton-Warren sure looked like the blockbuster sort of winning ticket I and others here have envisioned it to be.

[Ashmoria]

Believe me when I tell you that Hillary & Elizabeth Warren together in Cincinnati OH totally nailed it this morning, I can tell you that! ...lmao.

HRC must have taken some excellent advice in her meeting with Bernie Sanders last week. Thank God.

She has definitely moved towards the left on economics if this speech is any indication of where the Democratic platform is going. Also, the rip roaring introduction by Elizabeth Warren was just scintillating.

The looks Clinton gave Warren during her intro were very quite approving, possibly even telling of intentions. HRC then started her speech with a five - seven minute rave about Elizabeth's service.

The crowd was as animated and enthusiastic as any crowd I have seen for Hillary this entire election cycle. Clinton-Warren sure looked like the blockbuster sort of winning ticket I have envisioned it to be.

I loved the way they told good stories about each other and boosted each other.

and how they destroyed Donald trump.

[Ashmoria]

I know what you mean! he is far too involved in making money and far to uninvolved in running for president. who else would talk about the beauty of their new hotel suites instead of commenting on brexit the day after the vote? who else would care so little about international news that they wouldn't even study up on the effects of brexit on the US (instead of thinking that a lower pound would hurt US exports he touted that it would make it easier to go to his golf course!)?

is he really even running for president?

Well, whatever he did, it got him this far against a crowded field of Republicans filled with so many alternatives. He did something right to appeal to GOP primary voters (arguably not very difficult, just be nativist and racist).

the rejection of standard republican politics and politicians should scare the shit out of the republican elite. it is a bigger problem than the nomination of Donald trump. what are they going to do NEXT time with their unsatisfiable base?

[New Jerzylvania]

Believe me when I tell you that Hillary & Elizabeth Warren together in Cincinnati OH totally nailed it this morning, I can tell you that! ...lmao.

HRC must have taken some excellent advice in her meeting with Bernie Sanders last week. Thank God.

She has definitely moved towards the left on economics if this speech is any indication of where the Democratic platform is going. Also, the rip roaring introduction by Elizabeth Warren was just scintillating.

The looks Clinton gave Warren during her intro were very quite approving, possibly even telling of intentions. HRC then started her speech with a five - seven minute rave about Elizabeth's service.

The crowd was as animated and enthusiastic as any crowd I have seen for Hillary this entire election cycle. Clinton-Warren sure looked like the blockbuster sort of winning ticket I have envisioned it to be.

I loved the way they told good stories about each other and boosted each other.

and how they destroyed Donald trump.

It was just an old fashioned "tour de force." Bravo to Hillary for realizing this is the path to a win, maybe even a HYUUUUGE one.

[Ashmoria]

I loved the way they told good stories about each other and boosted each other.

and how they destroyed Donald trump.

It was just an old fashioned "tour de force." Bravo to Hillary for realizing this is the path to a win, maybe even a HYUUUUGE one.

the 2 of them together was so great that it changed my mind about wanting warren in VP slot (I had been of the mind that she is better in the senate long term). I'm ready for a total lady ticket!

[New Jerzylvania]

It was just an old fashioned "tour de force." Bravo to Hillary for realizing this is the path to a win, maybe even a HYUUUUGE one.

the 2 of them together was so great that it changed my mind about wanting warren in VP slot (I had been of the mind that she is better in the senate long term). I'm ready for a total lady ticket!

Excellent! Hopefully you are the leading edge today of many that will make that same calculation and come on board with this doubling down on democratic female candidates.

[Ashmoria]

the 2 of them together was so great that it changed my mind about wanting warren in VP slot (I had been of the mind that she is better in the senate long term). I'm ready for a total lady ticket!

Excellent! Hopefully you are the leading edge today of many that will make that same calculation and come on board with this doubling down on democratic female candidates.

it would be a show of Clinton's self confidence that she would be willing to choose such a dynamic vp nominee.

[New Jerzylvania]

Excellent! Hopefully you are the leading edge today of many that will make that same calculation and come on board with this doubling down on democratic female candidates.

it would be a show of Clinton's self confidence that she would be willing to choose such a dynamic vp nominee.

She is showing some serious renewed life and vigor lately. She holds resilience in her hand in face card spades.

Hillary seems to get that well known and now turned James Carville line "it's the economy youth vote, stupid." Go Clinton-Warren, Go all the way!

[Myrensis]

I'm a little leery about Warren as VP. Much as I'd like to say I don't think having 2 women on the ticket would be an issue in America in 2016...I think it would be, and given how Hillary has tended to lean a bit too heavily on the sexism card, it could come across as pandering/guilt tripping people.

I dunno, thankfully Trump seems intent on figuring out how to swallow both of his feet, so we have some breathing room.

[New Jerzylvania]

I'm a little leery about Warren as VP. Much as I'd like to say I don't think having 2 women on the ticket would be an issue in America in 2016...I think it would be, and given how Hillary has tended to lean a bit too heavily on the sexism card, it could come across as pandering/guilt tripping people.

I dunno, thankfully Trump seems intent on figuring out how to swallow both of his feet, so we have some breathing room.

Did you see the rally in Cincy today? It really was a game changer in veepstakes.

[Ashmoria]

I'm a little leery about Warren as VP. Much as I'd like to say I don't think having 2 women on the ticket would be an issue in America in 2016...I think it would be, and given how Hillary has tended to lean a bit too heavily on the sexism card, it could come across as pandering/guilt tripping people.

I dunno, thankfully Trump seems intent on figuring out how to swallow both of his feet, so we have some breathing room.

well Clinton wont be announcing her choice until after trump announces his. so if he finds someone good to run with and it might be a game changer she can changer her own choice if necessary.

[New Jerzylvania]

I'm a little leery about Warren as VP. Much as I'd like to say I don't think having 2 women on the ticket would be an issue in America in 2016...I think it would be, and given how Hillary has tended to lean a bit too heavily on the sexism card, it could come across as pandering/guilt tripping people.

I dunno, thankfully Trump seems intent on figuring out how to swallow both of his feet, so we have some breathing room.

well Clinton wont be announcing her choice until after trump announces his. so if he finds someone good to run with and it might be a game changer she can changer her own choice if necessary.

True, but the chances of Trump finding someone worthy fool enough to put their entire political career aboard the USS Trumptanic is slim. I might as well start referring to Hillary as the ice queen in this analogy.

Then there is the Dump Trump dreamers. They could change HRC's veep calculations if they could somehow perform what would likely be a political miracle of some great magnitude.

[United States of Atheism]

For a libertarian, what is the better choice in your opinion? Trump or Clinton?

[Washington Resistance Army]

For a libertarian, what is the better choice in your opinion? Trump or Clinton?

Johnson.

[Khadgar]

For a libertarian, what is the better choice in your opinion? Trump or Clinton?

Why not vote for the Libertarian?

isidewith.com is a good resource for anyone wanting to know how they align with a candidate also.

[United States of Atheism]

For a libertarian, what is the better choice in your opinion? Trump or Clinton?

Why not vote for the Libertarian?

isidewith.com is a good resource for anyone wanting to know how they align with a candidate also.

I don't want the consequence of putting the wrong choice in. I am considering Libertarian but I must also consider pragmatism sir. I may also vote below the line and vote for Rand Paul.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Why not vote for the Libertarian?

isidewith.com is a good resource for anyone wanting to know how they align with a candidate also.

I don't want the consequence of putting the wrong choice in. I am considering Libertarian but I must also consider pragmatism sir. I may also vote below the line and vote for Rand Paul.

There's no harm in helping the party get 5%, every vote counts.

[Ashmoria]

the democratic minority report from the latest Benghazi committee is out

http://democrats-benghazi.house.gov/sit ... ragedy.pdf

[United States of Atheism]

I don't want the consequence of putting the wrong choice in. I am considering Libertarian but I must also consider pragmatism sir. I may also vote below the line and vote for Rand Paul.

There's no harm in helping the party get 5%, every vote counts.

My results: I will probably vote Libertarian but it requires some thought.