US General Election Megathread: Trump vs Clinton

[Neutraligon]

Also, has anybody given much thought to the Senate elections? If Hillary is elected, she may very well see a Republican Senate and House.

Considering that Trump is failing to help people down ballot when it comes to fundraising, and may be actively harming them with his rhetoric, I think it is possible for Dems to retake the senate.

[Major-Tom]

Also, has anybody given much thought to the Senate elections? If Hillary is elected, she may very well see a Republican Senate and House.

Considering that Trump is failing to help people down ballot when it comes to fundraising, and may be actively harming them with his rhetoric, I think it is possible for Dems to retake the senate.

Possible, but I don't find it as likely as some pundits say.

Mark Kirk and Ron Johnson face an uphill battle, I imagine both of them will lose their seats, to Tammy Duckworth and Russ Feingold, respectively. As for other close states, such as Ohio and Pennsylvania, I could see the more moderate incumbents winning, both Portman and Toomey. Both poll ahead of their opposition fairly consistently, with a few outliers. Anything could happen in New Hamsphire and Florida, but I do see Nevada swinging red after the hated Harry Reid resigns, etc etc.

Overall, I can see the Senate composition at 51-48 once the election is over, with that 1 independent seat occupied by Bernie.

[Yorkers]

Considering that Trump is failing to help people down ballot when it comes to fundraising, and may be actively harming them with his rhetoric, I think it is possible for Dems to retake the senate.

Possible, but I don't find it as likely as some pundits say.

Mark Kirk

I banged one of his interns.

[Major-Tom]

Also, has anybody given much thought to the Senate elections? If Hillary is elected, she may very well see a Republican Senate and House.

Perhaps, although the Senate is probably up in the air.

I voted for Ron Unz in our senate election, but he came in third. So now, we got two Democrats running for the seat.

Pfft, California, gotta love it.

I'm still working my behind off for McCain.

[Major-Tom]

Possible, but I don't find it as likely as some pundits say.

Mark Kirk

I banged one of his interns.

If you're being sincere, I gotta give you a thumbs up.

[Kelinfort]

Perhaps, although the Senate is probably up in the air.

I voted for Ron Unz in our senate election, but he came in third. So now, we got two Democrats running for the seat.

Pfft, California, gotta love it.

I'm still working my behind off for McCain.

The sad thing? He didn't come in third state wide, he came in third in the Republican Field. They could've easily gotten a second place finish, but they had like 7 candidates run.

[Yorkers]

I banged one of his interns.

If you're being sincere, I gotta give you a thumbs up.

It was the girl from the College Republicans I told you about. She also interns for Kirk.

[Neutraligon]

If you're being sincere, I gotta give you a thumbs up.

It was the girl from the College Republicans I told you about. She also interns for Kirk.

I have absolutely no interest in your sexual history.

[Yorkers]

It was the girl from the College Republicans I told you about. She also interns for Kirk.

I have absolutely no interest in your sexual history.

scro'

[Corrian]

I'm more surprised at how epically his slim "polling lead" over Clinton has completely evaporated after all his financial scandals, fraudulent business dealings, racist remarks against an Indiana judge and vile reaction to Orlando just completely turned off a portion of his own voters. Its a testament to what a poor politician he really is.

His lead plummeted right after Clinton became the official nominee, too. Not a coincidence. Just like he completely took her lead away when he officially became the nominee, and they were tied and that was the time they were using the "Only Sanders can beat Trump!" approach (Which is obviously completely false now)

Guarantee her lead grows even more once Sanders is officially out.

[New Jerzylvania]

Also, has anybody given much thought to the Senate elections? If Hillary is elected, she may very well see a Republican Senate and House.

Considering that Trump is failing to help people down ballot when it comes to fundraising, and may be actively harming them with his rhetoric, I think it is possible for Dems to retake the senate.

Odds are pretty good, then in 2018 they have to defend many more seats than the GOP, so the advantage may not last long.

Then again, never underestimate the republicans' ability to disembowel themselves.

[New Jerzylvania]

I banged one of his interns.

If you're being sincere, I gotta give you a thumbs up.

Thumbs up? ...is there some small penis symbolism intended here?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Also, has anybody given much thought to the Senate elections? If Hillary is elected, she may very well see a Republican Senate and House.

Considering that Trump is failing to help people down ballot when it comes to fundraising, and may be actively harming them with his rhetoric, I think it is possible for Dems to retake the senate.

IIRC Trump and the RNC raised like 12 million a week ago, with any luck even if they lose the GOP will keep the House and the Senate.

[Guy]

It beggars belief that the party accepted the minimum wage increase but not the carbon tax.

Or maybe I shouldn't be surprised given that the former is easier to sell as good for the poor.

I'm not big on the carbon tax personally. They're awful for just about any income bracket in one way or another, and I don't think they're very effective. Tech advancement and investment in it will be the key to fighting climate change, not shifting an undue burden on both the poor who'll need to buy into it, and the rich who'll need to invest in it.

The minimum wage I'm okay with, if not as gung-ho about it. It'll certainly provide some short-term boost for a lot of people, but long term it's just shifting the numbers around for price and labor cost. It isn't actually making that labor more valuable, or stimulating demand for that labor which I think are much bigger factors. But, I'm happy to compromise on it, as like I said, it will bring a short term boost to a lot of people.

Australia placed a price on carbon emissions, 80% of people were better off due to compensation regimes (money raised was given back, essentially). So it was redistributive and incredibly environmentally efficient. Much better for the budget, too, than direct investment.

As for the minimum wage, pulling tens of millions of people out of poverty is a noble goal. The evidence that it will have more serious adverse effects is simply not there.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Perhaps, although the Senate is probably up in the air.

I voted for Ron Unz in our senate election, but he came in third. So now, we got two Democrats running for the seat.

Pfft, California, gotta love it.

I'm still working my behind off for McCain.

We're perfectly happy to elect non-insane Republicans in California. However, the state party is in collapse after the Schwarzenegger debacle, meaning that it's nearly impossible to field effective candidates.

[Kelinfort]

Pfft, California, gotta love it.

I'm still working my behind off for McCain.

We're perfectly happy to elect non-insane Republicans in California. However, the state party is in collapse after the Schwarzenegger debacle, meaning that it's nearly impossible to field effective candidates.

Schwarzenegger was the last real guy to have a chance. Even since 1994, they've been on the decline.

[Philjia]

Pfft, California, gotta love it.

I'm still working my behind off for McCain.

We're perfectly happy to elect non-insane Republicans in California. However, the state party is in collapse after the Schwarzenegger debacle, meaning that it's nearly impossible to field effective candidates.

Non-insane Republicans are getting further and further marginalised. Just look at what happened to Kasich.

[Corrian]

I read about that thing in California where it ended up coming down to two Democrats up against each other....

[New Jerzylvania]

We're perfectly happy to elect non-insane Republicans in California. However, the state party is in collapse after the Schwarzenegger debacle, meaning that it's nearly impossible to field effective candidates.

Non-insane Republicans are getting further and further marginalised. Just look at what happened to Kasich.

Governor Kasich isn't even allowed to speak at the GOP convention which is being held in his home state! Trump says if he's not endorsed by leading Republicans, then they will not be invited to speak.
That also includes Ted Cruz who will have around 550 delegates in attendance. Those folks really won't like that and could get quite vocal about it.

Trump is so crazy divisive inside his own party, can you imagine what he'd do if elected POTUS to those demographic groups that voted against him?
So y'all come out on election day and make sure this evil ass clown is defeated, ya hear?

[Corrian]

Is there a link to that Clinton and Warren thing?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Non-insane Republicans are getting further and further marginalised. Just look at what happened to Kasich.

Governor Kasich isn't even allowed to speak at the GOP convention which is being held in his home state! Trump says if he's not endorsed by leading Republicans, then they will not be invited to speak.
That also includes Ted Cruz who will have around 550 delegates in attendance. Those folks really won't like that and could get quite vocal about it.

Trump is so crazy divisive inside his own party, can you imagine what he'd do if elected POTUS to those demographic groups that voted against him?
So y'all come out on election day and make sure this evil ass clown is defeated, ya hear?

I'll be doing my part to defeat both the evil ass clowns

[Ashmoria]

Non-insane Republicans are getting further and further marginalised. Just look at what happened to Kasich.

Governor Kasich isn't even allowed to speak at the GOP convention which is being held in his home state! Trump says if he's not endorsed by leading Republicans, then they will not be invited to speak.
That also includes Ted Cruz who will have around 550 delegates in attendance. Those folks really won't like that and could get quite vocal about it.

Trump is so crazy divisive inside his own party, can you imagine what he'd do if elected POTUS to those demographic groups that voted against him?
So y'all come out on election day and make sure this evil ass clown is defeated, ya hear?

those slots will be taken by gary bussey and meatloaf.

[Ashmoria]

AND

did you see that scott brown challenged Elizabeth warren to take a dna test to prove her native American heritage?

does that guy want the VP nomination or what?

[Maineiacs]

http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016 ... 2385520025

[Maineiacs]

Considering that Trump is failing to help people down ballot when it comes to fundraising, and may be actively harming them with his rhetoric, I think it is possible for Dems to retake the senate.

Possible, but I don't find it as likely as some pundits say.

Mark Kirk and Ron Johnson face an uphill battle, I imagine both of them will lose their seats, to Tammy Duckworth and Russ Feingold, respectively. As for other close states, such as Ohio and Pennsylvania, I could see the more moderate incumbents winning, both Portman and Toomey. Both poll ahead of their opposition fairly consistently, with a few outliers. Anything could happen in New Hamsphire and Florida, but I do see Nevada swinging red after the hated Harry Reid resigns, etc etc.

Overall, I can see the Senate composition at 51-48 once the election is over, with that 1 independent seat occupied by Bernie.

There are 2 Independents in the Senate: Bernie, and Angus King (I-ME). Like Sanders, King caucuses with the Dems.