UK Politics Thread III: Thready McThreadface (+ Jo Cox)

[Conscentia]

Not to mention the conquest of India.

It pales in comparison to the annihilation of whole industrialised cities in one night.

The Germans got what was coming to them.

Seriously?

[Lamadia]

Girls shouldn't fight. Come on.
There are a lot of good old fashioned values that we threw out because some of the other old fashioned ones were bad.

If boys are allowed to fight, then why not girls?

Boys shouldn't fight, but girls never have. Girls are supposed to aspire to be 'a lady'. Sounds Victorian, but it doesn't mean we have to disregard the concept. A girl doesn't fight in the playground, and I think it is horrific when a boy punches a girl. Disgusting.
Nothing sexist about it. I always see cowards who like punching girls calling the 'oh, but why should it be any different card'. Give me a gold club, and I will teach them, very kindly.

[Questers]

It pales in comparison to the annihilation of whole industrialised cities in one night.

The Germans got what was coming to them.

Seriously?

Yes, seriously.

The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put that rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now, they are going to reap the whirlwind - a British hero.

[Conscentia]

If boys are allowed to fight, then why not girls?

It is not the done thing.
I am 100% sincere about that btw.
some of our societal standards which were good have been washed away by liberalism.

I don't see why it ought be the "done thing" that boys fight.

[Imperializt Russia]

The police, just like they do now?

The police have access to firearms for a reason.

You apply to the police to own firearms. This is how it has been for some considerable time.
All that is being suggested, is increasing the number of types of weapons that people can own. At its most basic, nothing actually changes.

This semi-automatic combat shotgun is UK legal and a company exists that sells them specifically to the UK market.

This semi-automatic combat rifle, from which the above weapon is directly derived, is not UK legal solely for being a semi-automatic centrefire rifle.


What difference does it make?

[Ostroeuropa]

Girls shouldn't fight. Come on.

There are a lot of good old fashioned values that we threw out because some of the other old fashioned ones were bad.

explain in 100 words or less why having a vagina should affect whether or not you fight

For a similar reason generals shouldn't.
Women are expected to just demand men do it on their behalf.

Since the men value their own safety and health less than the womans approval, they don't want her to fight either, since it puts the source of approval in danger.
It's entirely true that women shouldn't fight, everyone agrees, and either ignores that men do it or demands they do.

...
Except people who want to fix gynocentrism in society and get mens self-worth to be higher.

[Souseiseki]

i've always been kinda annoyed i don't know much about my family and have no idea what if anything any of them did during any war

gas chamber buddies (the worst kind of buddies)

If you are really interested, when I am back in the UK i can help you find out

that would be interesting but probably extremely difficult to actually pull off

If boys are allowed to fight, then why not girls?

It is not the done thing.

I am 100% sincere about that btw.

some of our societal standards which were good have been washed away by liberalism.

do you think boys should fight?

[Questers]

It is not the done thing.
I am 100% sincere about that btw.
some of our societal standards which were good have been washed away by liberalism.

I don't see why it ought be the "done thing" that boys fight.

i didnt's ay it should be.

i only said girls shouldn't.

[Imperializt Russia]

explain in 100 words or less why having a vagina should affect whether or not you fight

For a similar reason generals shouldn't.

...
No dice, Ostro.

[Questers]

If you are really interested, when I am back in the UK i can help you find out

that would be interesting but probably extremely difficult to actually pull off

It is not the done thing.

I am 100% sincere about that btw.

some of our societal standards which were good have been washed away by liberalism.

do you think boys should fight?

no preferably people shouldn't fight.

it wouldn't necessarily be hard. requires a last name and some personal details etc. there's lots of stuff out there to help people find that kind of thing out.

[Questers]

explain in 100 words or less why having a vagina should affect whether or not you fight

For a similar reason generals shouldn't.
Women are expected to just demand men do it on their behalf.

Since the men value their own safety and health less than the womans approval, they don't want her to fight either, since it puts the source of approval in danger.
It's entirely true that women shouldn't fight, everyone agrees, and either ignores that men do it or demands they do.

...
Except people who want to fix gynocentrism in society and get mens self-worth to be higher.

shut up.

[Imperializt Russia]

It pales in comparison to the annihilation of whole industrialised cities in one night.

The Germans got what was coming to them.

Seriously?

Seriously?

[Conscentia]

Seriously?

Yes, seriously.

The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put that rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now, they are going to reap the whirlwind - a British hero.

Nazis =/= Germans.

Civilian targets include innocents. To clarify, I'm not arguing against the policy. Honestly, I don't know enough about military strategy to know whether targeting civilian targets was necessary or not. I'm just saying that innocent civilians did not 'have it coming'.

[Ostroeuropa]

For a similar reason generals shouldn't.

...
No dice, Ostro.

You've consistently demonstrated you aren't willing to actually listen and understand my position, so i'm not interested in discussing it with you.

I don't see why it ought be the "done thing" that boys fight.

i didnt's ay it should be.

i only said girls shouldn't.

If I were to tell you that women shouldnt' sleep around, do you think i'm also saying that about guys?

For a similar reason generals shouldn't.
Women are expected to just demand men do it on their behalf.

Since the men value their own safety and health less than the womans approval, they don't want her to fight either, since it puts the source of approval in danger.
It's entirely true that women shouldn't fight, everyone agrees, and either ignores that men do it or demands they do.

...
Except people who want to fix gynocentrism in society and get mens self-worth to be higher.

shut up.

Cool argument.

[Conscentia]

I don't see why it ought be the "done thing" that boys fight.

i didnt's ay it should be.

i only said girls shouldn't.

Why though?

[Imperializt Russia]

...
No dice, Ostro.

You've consistently demonstrated you aren't willing to actually listen and understand my position, so i'm not interested in discussing it with you.

No reason why women should not fight is the same as why generals do not, except in the rare (and I suspect nonexistent case in the UK) that we are discussing a female general.

[Conscentia]

The police have access to firearms for a reason.

You apply to the police to own firearms. This is how it has been for some considerable time.
All that is being suggested, is increasing the number of types of weapons that people can own. At its most basic, nothing actually changes.
This semi-automatic combat shotgun is UK legal and a company exists that sells them specifically to the UK market.
This semi-automatic combat rifle, from which the above weapon is directly derived, is not UK legal solely for being a semi-automatic centrefire rifle.
What difference does it make?

Fair point. I concede.

[Lamadia]

If boys are allowed to fight, then why not girls?

Boys shouldn't fight, but girls never have. Girls are supposed to aspire to be 'a lady'. Sounds Victorian, but it doesn't mean we have to disregard the concept. A girl doesn't fight in the playground, and I think it is horrific when a boy punches a girl. Disgusting.
Nothing sexist about it. I always see cowards who like punching girls calling the 'oh, but why should it be any different card'. Give me a gold club, and I will teach them, very kindly.

[Questers]

Yes, seriously.

The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put that rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now, they are going to reap the whirlwind - a British hero.

Nazis =/= Germans.

Civilian targets include innocents. To clarify, I'm not arguing against the policy. Honestly, I don't know enough about military strategy to know whether targeting civilian targets was necessary or not. I'm just saying that innocent civilians did not 'have it coming'.

Yea, they did.

They had it coming.

You don't get to cheer on your country and then get to say UHH WE WERE ONLY CIVILIANS when you start losing.

If any of them were sincerely anti-war from the start, like the white rose movement, I have sympathy.

Otherwise Bomber Harris was right. We didn't bomb them hard enough. We should have leveled every last German hamlet to the ground.

[Angleter]

If boys are allowed to fight, then why not girls?

Boys shouldn't fight, but girls never have. Girls are supposed to aspire to be 'a lady'. Sounds Victorian, but it doesn't mean we have to disregard the concept. A girl doesn't fight in the playground, and I think it is horrific when a boy punches a girl. Disgusting.
Nothing sexist about it. I always see cowards who like punching girls calling the 'oh, but why should it be any different card'. Give me a gold club, and I will teach them, very kindly.

I highly doubt that girls have 'never' fought each other in the playground. They probably do so less often, but still.

[Lamadia]

Boys shouldn't fight, but girls never have. Girls are supposed to aspire to be 'a lady'. Sounds Victorian, but it doesn't mean we have to disregard the concept. A girl doesn't fight in the playground, and I think it is horrific when a boy punches a girl. Disgusting.
Nothing sexist about it. I always see cowards who like punching girls calling the 'oh, but why should it be any different card'. Give me a gold club, and I will teach them, very kindly.

I highly doubt that girls have 'never' fought each other in the playground. They probably do so less often, but still.

True, yes.

[Ostroeuropa]

You've consistently demonstrated you aren't willing to actually listen and understand my position, so i'm not interested in discussing it with you.

No reason why women should not fight is the same as why generals do not, except in the rare (and I suspect nonexistent case in the UK) that we are discussing a female general.

I said it's similar, not the same, that's a good example of you not actually listening and understanding, and instead just kneejerk rejecting because MUH FEMINISMS. A conclusion reinforced by the fact you ignored the rest of the post where I allude to why it's similar.
(That their role in societal violence is to pick troops and targets.)

But like I said, i'm not actually interested in discussing this further with you.

[Questers]

Cool argument.

It wasn't an argument. An argument is an establishment of a logical proposition. "Shut up" is an imperative.

[Souseiseki]

Girls are supposed to aspire to be 'a lady'. Sounds Victorian, but it doesn't mean we have to disregard the concept.

I am not a stereotype.

sorry but it's just too irresistible

[Questers]

No reason why women should not fight is the same as why generals do not, except in the rare (and I suspect nonexistent case in the UK) that we are discussing a female general.

I said it's similar, not the same, that's a good example of you not actually listening and understanding, and instead just kneejerk rejecting because MUH FEMINISMS. A conclusion reinforced by the fact you ignored the rest of the post where I allude to why it's similar.
(That their role in societal violence is to pick troops and targets.)

But like I said, i'm not actually interested in discussing this further with you.

mate you need to get laid