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by The Black Forrest » Sun May 01, 2016 2:45 pm
by The Nihilistic view » Sun May 01, 2016 2:46 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sun May 01, 2016 2:49 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sun May 01, 2016 2:50 pm
by The Nihilistic view » Sun May 01, 2016 2:57 pm
by Moctina » Sun May 01, 2016 2:57 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sun May 01, 2016 2:58 pm
by The Nihilistic view » Sun May 01, 2016 3:08 pm
by Ashmoria » Sun May 01, 2016 3:12 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:Ashmoria wrote:fine but the question is WHERE IS THE EXTRA MONEY GOING?
if it is justifiable expenses then capping fees would hurt the schools educational mission.
Mostly new buildings, most bigger private schools have had large building projects the last 15 years. Most don't have the trusts to pay for these so they need fees and donations from old boys/girls to build. Longer term a total transformation, back in my dad's day they were horible places. Very spartan with little comforts and the facilities were not the best on offer. They were mostly not any better than the state system and in many cases worse overall. They mostly lived off the status they gave and the old boys networks. They were not alwys the best places to send your child. This they were relatively cheap. I would say from the 80s the quality has increased and anrecent boom in facilities has caused the fee rises. Along with the increasing price on energy from the 00s (back in 2009 my econ teacher told me the school's bill for heating etc was nearly 4 million pounds when we were talking about the oil price) Most teachers are not paid much more than in state schools. Same is true with heads now academies have come along. A few get loads most don't get the headline figures. All gone to improving the schools really, providing the things they do costs a lot of money.
by Ashmoria » Sun May 01, 2016 3:13 pm
Moctina wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Private right?
As long as he earns it. Some think they deserve it simply because they warm a seat.
Private/independent, yes.
And I have to say, he is respected massively by the students. If there is a problem, he will deal with it- the sort of headmaster who would put the school first.Ashmoria wrote:how big is the school?
I am not too sure. A few hundred students, I should say, although I don't know the exact figures, shamefully. Enough to turn out a good profit.
by Moctina » Sun May 01, 2016 3:13 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:Ashmoria wrote:fine but the question is WHERE IS THE EXTRA MONEY GOING?
if it is justifiable expenses then capping fees would hurt the schools educational mission.
Mostly new buildings, most bigger private schools have had large building projects the last 15 years. Most don't have the trusts to pay for these so they need fees and donations from old boys/girls to build. Longer term a total transformation, back in my dad's day they were horible places. Very spartan with little comforts and the facilities were not the best on offer. They were mostly not any better than the state system and in many cases worse overall. They mostly lived off the status they gave and the old boys networks. They were not alwys the best places to send your child. This they were relatively cheap. I would say from the 80s the quality has increased and anrecent boom in facilities has caused the fee rises. Along with the increasing price on energy from the 00s (back in 2009 my econ teacher told me the school's bill for heating etc was nearly 4 million pounds when we were talking about the oil price) Most teachers are not paid much more than in state schools. Same is true with heads now academies have come along. A few get loads most don't get the headline figures. All gone to improving the schools really, providing the things they do costs a lot of money.
by Moctina » Sun May 01, 2016 3:20 pm
Novorobo wrote:Or you could outlaw private schools altogether. Capitalism should have no place in education anyway.
by Novorobo » Sun May 01, 2016 3:46 pm
Moctina wrote:Novorobo wrote:Or you could outlaw private schools altogether. Capitalism should have no place in education anyway.
What a ridiculous suggestion.
Why shouldn't superb education be offered to people willing to pay? Why restrict everybody to an overcrowded state system which would not be able to cope? Why destroy freedoms in pursuit of this arrant nonsense?
Socialist Nordia wrote:Oh shit, let's hope we don't have to take in any /pol/ refugees.
by Moctina » Sun May 01, 2016 3:49 pm
Novorobo wrote:Moctina wrote:What a ridiculous suggestion.
Why shouldn't superb education be offered to people willing to pay? Why restrict everybody to an overcrowded state system which would not be able to cope? Why destroy freedoms in pursuit of this arrant nonsense?
1. Education shouldn't be a function of ability to pay.
2. So that maybe the rich will have some incentive to help fix that system.
3. Like what, the "freedom" of the rich to keep stacking the deck against the poor? I'd rather we give the poor the freedom to climb the social ladder myself.
by The Nihilistic view » Sun May 01, 2016 3:53 pm
Novorobo wrote:Or you could outlaw private schools altogether. Capitalism should have no place in education anyway.
by Valaran » Sun May 01, 2016 3:59 pm
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
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Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Greed and Death » Sun May 01, 2016 4:01 pm
by Novorobo » Sun May 01, 2016 4:11 pm
Moctina wrote:Novorobo wrote:1. Education shouldn't be a function of ability to pay.
2. So that maybe the rich will have some incentive to help fix that system.
3. Like what, the "freedom" of the rich to keep stacking the deck against the poor? I'd rather we give the poor the freedom to climb the social ladder myself.
This is envy- pure and simple.
'If I can't have it, why should he'.
A very dangerous attitude, and one which is making some success in UK politics.
Socialist Nordia wrote:Oh shit, let's hope we don't have to take in any /pol/ refugees.
by Wolfmanne2 » Sun May 01, 2016 5:35 pm
Novorobo wrote:Or you could outlaw private schools altogether. Capitalism should have no place in education anyway.
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Yeah precipitating on everyone doesn't go down well usually. You seem patient enough to chat to us, i'm willing to count that as nice.
by Old Stephania » Sun May 01, 2016 5:51 pm
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