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Should Israelis be relocated to North America?

Yes
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No
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:09 pm

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It seems unfair that one offers to donate land which is not one's to give. I mean it's almost as if she was taking a racist "go back to where you came from" mentality instead, but surely not!

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Postby Unified Gibbons » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:19 pm

Labor Party racism? Jeez, color me shocked. (Sarcasm kiddies)
In all seriousness, we are not going to deport every last Israeli to the US just so the radical left(of whom I used to be affiliated with) can let terrorists like Hamas run wild with sharia extremism and antisemitism. Israelis fought long and hard for that nation they can flee antisemitism and return to the land promised to them. While I believe there should be a Palestine I don't think Israel should be removed. We already have a bad refugee crisis in the Middle East and the deportations of middle eastern Jews en masse isn't gonna help.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:38 pm

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Source: http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/ ... a/3008962/
Sorry for the obscure source but is the only one I could find. I find that disgusting, as a Jew I believe the state of Israel should exist. We were oppressed for thousands of years and we deserve a Jewish homeland. At the same time, we must protect the rights of Palestinians and make sure they are not wrongly targeted and persecuted by the Israeli State. We should take a two party state solution. Nation states, what do you think? Should Israeli be relocated to North America?


So let me get this straight: Great Britain made this mess with the Mandate of Palestine, so some idiots in the the current UK wants to push it onto the US by forcibly relocating Israelis here?

Fuck, no, thank you very much.


Many people literally push everything on the US. Which is why we are nearing the breaking point and near going isolationist.
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Postby Dinake » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:39 pm

Opposing Israel isn't necessarily anti-semitism. While the comment could have been more tactful, it wasn't a particularly anti-semitic one.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:40 pm

TotallyNotEvilLand wrote:

A conspiracy nut vlogger is about as legitimate and unbiased a source as asking a North Irishman what they think of the IRA.

That and going by his other videos with such fantastically smart titles as "pathetic white pussies complain about race", the guy is a complete and utter twat as well. Try again, no points to Gryffindor.


True. But AJ is a propaganda outlet for the Wahhabi government of Qatar. It is hardly an objective source.
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Postby Penguin Union Nation » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:41 pm

It is true that if it weren't for religion, America wouldn't give a damn about Israel. If it were some Central African country, we'd pay it no mind whatsoever.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:42 pm

Penguin Union Nation wrote:It is true that if it weren't for religion, America wouldn't give a damn about Israel.


No. We also supports them for realpolitik geopolitical reasons.
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Postby Penguin Union Nation » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:42 pm

Novus America wrote:
Penguin Union Nation wrote:It is true that if it weren't for religion, America wouldn't give a damn about Israel.


No. We also supports them for realpolitik geopolitical reasons.


Which all boil down to MUH HIGHER POWER'S FAVORITE.

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Postby Dinake » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:43 pm

Penguin Union Nation wrote:It is true that if it weren't for religion, America wouldn't give a damn about Israel. If it were some Central African country, we'd pay it no mind whatsoever.

That's part of it. The rest is geopolitics and a sense of guilt over the holocaust.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:47 pm

Penguin Union Nation wrote:
Novus America wrote:
No. We also supports them for realpolitik geopolitical reasons.


Which all boil down to MUH HIGHER POWER'S FAVORITE.


Obviously we favor some countries more of than others.
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Postby Dinake » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:49 pm

Penguin Union Nation wrote:
Novus America wrote:
No. We also supports them for realpolitik geopolitical reasons.


Which all boil down to MUH HIGHER POWER'S FAVORITE.

No, a lot of it is just politically correct guilt. Zionism is even common among religiously apathetic citizens.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:49 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
It seems unfair that one offers to donate land which is not one's to give. I mean it's almost as if she was taking a racist "go back to where you came from" mentality instead, but surely not!

The "rad left" doesn't own Tehran.
It's not 1978 anymore.


Iran is a kleptocracy ruling as a theocracy. So I would agree it is not "left".
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Postby Cetacea » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:03 pm

Unified Gibbons wrote:Labor Party racism? Jeez, color me shocked. (Sarcasm kiddies)
In all seriousness, we are not going to deport every last Israeli to the US just so the radical left(of whom I used to be affiliated with) can let terrorists like Hamas run wild with sharia extremism and antisemitism. Israelis fought long and hard for that nation they can flee antisemitism and return to the land promised to them. While I believe there should be a Palestine I don't think Israel should be removed. We already have a bad refugee crisis in the Middle East and the deportations of middle eastern Jews en masse isn't gonna help.


promised to them by who? the British or some exiled hermit 4000 years ago?

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:05 pm

It's like he saw how Israel has the U.S.'s balls in its hand and decided to put them together in one convenient package.
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Postby Walgreens » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:09 pm

Gauthier wrote:It's like he saw how Israel has the U.S.'s balls in its hand and decided to put them together in one convenient package.

Except it's the other way around...
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Postby Utceforp » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:32 pm

Communist Xomaniax wrote:Given that there's only one majority jewish state, surrounded by majority arab muslim states, it'd probably be easier just to let Israel fully annex the Palestinian lands and just relocate the Palestinian arabs to the neighboring muslim states. That seems to be the way things are going anyway.

Because Palestinians aren't a separate culture of their own, who have as much of a right to sovereignty as the Jewish do. All brown people are the same. *nods*
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Postby Crockerland » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:36 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Communist Xomaniax wrote:Given that there's only one majority jewish state, surrounded by majority arab muslim states, it'd probably be easier just to let Israel fully annex the Palestinian lands and just relocate the Palestinian arabs to the neighboring muslim states. That seems to be the way things are going anyway.

Because Palestinians aren't a separate culture of their own, who have as much of a right to sovereignty as the Jewish do. All brown people are the same. *nods*

Feel free to name any major differences between the cultures of Palestine and Jordan, besides the Jordanians wanting peace and the Palestinians continually rejecting it.
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Postby Reutoa » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:36 pm

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Postby Mushet » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:38 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Death Valley seems like a suitable location. Hot, dry, and lifeless, just like the real Israel! (Forgive me for my crass humor)

Of course there's still always Alaska.

Lifeless my ass.
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Postby Danceria » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:41 pm

I have returned to be the Devil's advocate of this relocation!
Because essentially, that is how Israel was founded, a pro-ZIonist relocation of European Jews.
So...update me on what happened so far...
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Postby Korhal IVV » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:45 pm

No different to slave traders 200 years ago. Basically I just have the same opinion to OP.
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Postby Ashworth-Attwater » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:09 pm

Mushet wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Death Valley seems like a suitable location. Hot, dry, and lifeless, just like the real Israel! (Forgive me for my crass humor)

Of course there's still always Alaska.

Lifeless my ass.


lifeless = not that many white people
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:12 pm

Novus America wrote:
Luziyca wrote:To be honest, an ideal solution would be to move the Israelis to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, Palestinians to Jordan or the Sinai, and then destroy the land area that once comprised Israel and Palestine and transform it into an extension of the Red Sea/Mediterranean Sea. At least that way, there would be some semblence of peace.


Why the heck should the Jews be sent to a frozen swamp in Eastern Russia?! There is a reason why they do not go to the JAO in the first place. It sucks.

The Russians created the JAO before Israel was even established. If the Jews need a homeland, they got one: it may be a frozen swamp, but at least they aren't taking land of people who have been living there before the Jews returned.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:56 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Why the heck should the Jews be sent to a frozen swamp in Eastern Russia?! There is a reason why they do not go to the JAO in the first place. It sucks.

The Russians created the JAO before Israel was even established. If the Jews need a homeland, they got one: it may be a frozen swamp, but at least they aren't taking land of people who have been living there before the Jews returned.


It was designed by Stalin to screw the Jews. W should not do to them what we did to the Native Americans.

It is not an appropriate homeland for anyone.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:58 pm

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:
Mushet wrote:Lifeless my ass.


lifeless = not that many white people


According to the US census bureau, most Arabs and Jews are white. Actually a lot of Arabs are quite pale.
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