Brittish MP wanted to 'relocate Israel to North America'

[SD_Film Artists]

Iran is geo-politically, radically left wing?

Hes obviously talking nonsense. Geopolitics can't be right or left, liberal or conservative - there is only raison d'etat.

It's certainly nonsense, but it's still an observable trait. I mean you could create a very dangerous drinking game if you took a shot each time the Morning Star said the words "Imperialist", "Western", "colonialism" or any negative attitudes towards American foreign policy. Bonus points and a big red star if you find "Manufactured Consent" and "Direct Action".

Not that merely disagreeing with America automatically makes you a radical leftist, but the Morning Star and similar groups make a sport of it.

[Alvecia]

Move Israel to every state that votes against Trump.

"I'm going to build a wall, and Israel is going to pay for it."

[SD_Film Artists]

Move Israel to every state that votes against Trump.

"I'm going to build a wall, and Israel is going to pay for it."

Because Israel doesn't already have enough wall-related expenditure.

[Novus America]

Move Israel to every state that votes against Trump.

This makes zero sense. I do not like Trump but he is not anti Semitic, anti Israel nor against Jewish immigration. Moreover you can send more Jews to my state. Please. We could use the ecnomic boost.

[Korica]

good, hopefully Palestine will become a country.

[Crockerland]

good, hopefully Palestine will become a country.

If it stops rejecting offers for a two-state solution from Israel it will.

[Novus America]

good, hopefully Palestine will become a country.

There already is a State of Palestine. With widespread (though not universal) recognition.

[New Benian Republic]

good, hopefully Palestine will become a country.

If it stops rejecting offers for a two-state solution from Israel it will.

Who would possibly accept the shite deals that Israel gives, even more who would possibly trust the Israelis to stay with their word.

[The Coalition of the Magical unicorns]

good, hopefully Palestine will become a country.

There already is a State of Palestine. With widespread (though not universal) recognition.

Palestine is not a country de facto, nor it was ever- But let's *not* get into that.

While I as Israeli would love the change of neighbourhood, considering the ME is a total mess, it is still ethnic cleansing... If that offer was serious, I won't say no- It's win-win for me. Better country, you are not longer drafted by law, and less conflict.
But this offer smells from anti-semitisim. It points that Israel is the source of troubles, while it is incorrect- It is the Palestines who refuse to make peace with Israel.

[Novus America]

There already is a State of Palestine. With widespread (though not universal) recognition.

Palestine is not a country de facto, nor it was ever- But let's *not* get into that.

While I as Israeli would love the change of neighbourhood, considering the ME is a total mess, it is still ethnic cleansing... If that offer was serious, I won't say no- It's win-win for me. Better country, you are not longer drafted by law, and less conflict.
But this offer smells from anti-semitisim. It points that Israel is the source of troubles, while it is incorrect- It is the Palestines who refuse to make peace with Israel.

Well there is a State of Palestine. Kind of.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine
Problem is it is completely incapable of creating a semblance of a working government. It is just a messed up kleptocracy.

Obviously there has never been one before, the concept of a state of Palestine is a new thing without historical basis.

Still there kind of is one now.

But yes, that is the problem. Forceable ethnic cleansing of Jews is what this is.

And Israel is a rare spot of progress in the region. Israel is not the source of conflict. Hamas, Fatah and other factions spend more time fighting eachother. Without Israel that land would be just another Yemen or Syria.

[Kautharr]

good, hopefully Palestine will become a country.

Palestine is a state who elect terrorists to public office. I despise Israel but I damn well prefer it to Palestine.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

good, hopefully Palestine will become a country.

Palestine is a state who elect terrorists to public office. I despise Israel but I damn well prefer it to Palestine.

define terrorists

[Napkiraly]

If it stops rejecting offers for a two-state solution from Israel it will.

Who would possibly accept the shite deals that Israel gives, even more who would possibly trust the Israelis to stay with their word.

Same can be said of the Palestinians.

[Hostenia]

...naaah
Israel is fine where it is.

[Crockerland]

Palestine is a state who elect terrorists to public office. I despise Israel but I damn well prefer it to Palestine.

define terrorists

People like Nazi recruiter Hajj amin al-Huesseini, or the person responsible for the Damour Massacre, Yasser Arafat (who married a girl 40 years younger than him).

[Zoice]

Lets go by steps:

1. IR said her post at the most basic level was not anti-Semitic.
2. I said suggesting the ethnic cleansing of Israeli Jews was still rather problematic.
3. Zoice said it isn't ethnically cleansing to suggest that an ethnic group shouldn't be shouldn't be conquering already habited lands for the sake of a 4000-year old prophecy. Zoice at this point was not specifically referring to the settlements.
4. I said it was, since the crimes of Israel do not justify the ethnic cleansing of people who were born and raised in Israel their entire lives.
5. Zoice made it clear he was talking about the settlements.
6. I said the MP's post was not about the settlements, thus remaining an issue of ethnic cleansing, which is the topic of this thread.

Zoice's opinion was originally that it was not ethnically cleansing, since perhaps he thought she was just referring to the settlements. Hopefully by now you both realise that she is talking about Israel proper and thus advocated for the ethnic cleansing of Israeli Jews, which is the topic of this thread.

Sorry for the confusion.

define terrorists

People like Nazi recruiter Hajj amin al-Huesseini, or the person responsible for the Damour Massacre, Yasser Arafat (who married a girl 40 years younger than him).

It's annoying that much the local opposition to Israel does such awful things.

Israel is still a state that shouldn't exist though, at least not in the way it does now.

[Crockerland]

People like Nazi recruiter Hajj amin al-Huesseini, or the person responsible for the Damour Massacre, Yasser Arafat (who married a girl 40 years younger than him).

It's annoying that much the local opposition to Israel does such awful things.

Israel is still a state that shouldn't exist though, at least not in the way it does now.

Ebul Jews allowing women and homosexuals to have rights, you mean?

Oh, and don't forget all that aid to farmers in Myanmar, huricane katrina victims, etc. Those dirty infidels should just starve to death, right?

[Kautharr]

Palestine is a state who elect terrorists to public office. I despise Israel but I damn well prefer it to Palestine.

define terrorists

putting your weapons on civilian buildings and taking civilians inside hostage to force Israel to kill or injure civilians, faking IDF brutality to further your political agenda, killing your own civilians and blaming it on Israel, bombing Israel for "the struggle"...

[Zoice]

It's annoying that much the local opposition to Israel does such awful things.

Israel is still a state that shouldn't exist though, at least not in the way it does now.

Ebul Jews allowing women and homosexuals to have rights, you mean?

What? The issue I take with Israel is their stealing land.

[Papua New Guineau]

It's annoying that much the local opposition to Israel does such awful things.

Israel is still a state that shouldn't exist though, at least not in the way it does now.

Ebul Jews allowing women and homosexuals to have rights, you mean?

Oh, and don't forget all that aid to farmers in Myanmar, huricane katrina victims, etc. Those dirty infidels should just starve to death, right?

Don't forget all that aid to Azerbaijan mr "pro Nagorno Karabakh"

[Crockerland]

Ebul Jews allowing women and homosexuals to have rights, you mean?

What? The issue I take with Israel is their stealing land.

You mean like they did in Gaza, vacating all settlements to be rewarded with daily rocketfire, stabbings, and suicide bombings?

[Anollasia]

Patrick Star...is that you?

[Zoice]

What? The issue I take with Israel is their stealing land.

You mean like they did in Gaza, vacating all settlements to be rewarded with daily rocketfire, stabbings, and suicide bombings?

Their opponents do some awful stuff, for sure. Israel also does awful stuff that it shouldn't be doing.

[Olivaero]

Are you implying iran is radically left wing?

I meant in terms of geo-politics rather than economics.

you see I'd define the Geo-politics of the left and certainly the radical left to be internationalist and pacifist in nature, making a country like say Germany more in the camp of Geo-politically left than Iran which is quite militaristic.

[Napkiraly]

The left-right dichotomy doesn't fit into international relations neatly*, so it's not really advisable to use it.


*The exception being Marxist theory to international relations, but even that has a number of differentiating ideas within it. Looking at Soviet foreign policy debate and changes will show this much, since everything had to be justified ideologically.