How will you survive the 'end of the world' ?

[United Marxist Nations]

I can't ensure it would work infallibly, as nothing would, but it would work better than what he is suggesting, which is basically everyone just sort of dying in the cities.

I suppose you are right, but where on earth would they go? Any small town still around, and armed probably isn't going to let them in.

Well, they could go armed as well. And presumably to giant farms that would need their labor. There would, of course, be a certain number staying behind who could manage with more artificial (i.e. greenhouse, rooftop) farming and conducting trade.

[United Marxist Nations]

I have a long-standing fantasy of being a monk in a post-apocalyptic world who just sort of copied history texts and wrote down what happened leading up to the apocalypse.

A canticle for Leibowitz?

Never actually heard of that.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

I would probably set the plans for some kind of post apocalyptic trade republic, and ensure a system of succession before I die.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'll survive by continuing to hoard weaponry and general SHTF supplies.

You know its pretty funny all those people who are doomsday preppers are kind of screwed. It is apocalypse rules they die first through irony.

Don't be silly, there's no such things as apocalypse rules.

[Zeon Refounded]

That comment just made my day. Thank you.

You do know how armies used to get around, right? You know, those bodies of hundreds of thousands of men who traversed sometimes thousands of miles on a campaign? You know. Before the train was invented. I will give you a hint, it was by marching.

A trained army with a well organized courier system for orders and a dependable supply route is not the same as an unruly, undisciplined mob of hundreds of thousands (maybe more) of civilians. I fear you overestimate humanity.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

You know its pretty funny all those people who are doomsday preppers are kind of screwed. It is apocalypse rules they die first through irony.

Don't be silly, there's no such things as apocalypse rules.

Yet there is.

All the last mans on earth end up killing random people or getting into fire fights with the military. Preppers get killed because it isn't the apocalypse they expected, and some random suburban family comes in, and takes all their stuff while fleeing.

[United Marxist Nations]

You do know how armies used to get around, right? You know, those bodies of hundreds of thousands of men who traversed sometimes thousands of miles on a campaign? You know. Before the train was invented. I will give you a hint, it was by marching.

A trained army with a well organized courier system for orders and a dependable supply route is not the same as an unruly, undisciplined mob of hundreds of thousands (maybe more) of civilians. I fear you overestimate humanity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Crusade

Such a couriers system wouldn't take all that long to create.

Moreover, many armies lived mainly off of forage (e.g. the Roman legions, Napoleon's armies).

[The Conez Imperium]

A canticle for Leibowitz?

Never actually heard of that.

I haven't read it myself but it sounds promising according to the wikipedia page

[Washington Resistance Army]

Don't be silly, there's no such things as apocalypse rules.

Yet there is.

All the last mans on earth end up killing random people or getting into fire fights with the military. Preppers get killed because it isn't the apocalypse they expected, and some random suburban family comes in, and takes all their stuff while fleeing.

See, this is why I expect every form of apocalypse

[Zeon Refounded]

A trained army with a well organized courier system for orders and a dependable supply route is not the same as an unruly, undisciplined mob of hundreds of thousands (maybe more) of civilians. I fear you overestimate humanity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Crusade

Such a couriers system wouldn't take all that long to create.

Moreover, many armies lived mainly off of forage (e.g. the Roman legions, Napoleon's armies).

By forage, you mean looting farms (the famers will fight you). The forage wasn't their main source, it was a supplement. By the way the People's Crusade is a VERY bad example (there were only 40,000, they knew were they were going, they massacred Jews, and pillaged innocent cities). They never made it to the Holy Land.

By the way, most city people will not know how to farm.

[Scomagia]

A pandemic sounds like the most survivable or, at least, the event over which I'd have the most control. Leave populated areas, practice basic hygiene, avoid sick people, etc.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

A pandemic sounds like the most survivable or, at least, the event over which I'd have the most control. Leave populated areas, practice basic hygiene, avoid sick people, etc.

Holy shit.

Is it really you?

[Scomagia]

A pandemic sounds like the most survivable or, at least, the event over which I'd have the most control. Leave populated areas, practice basic hygiene, avoid sick people, etc.

Holy shit.

Is it really you?

I think so.

Who else would I be?

[Washington Resistance Army]

A pandemic sounds like the most survivable or, at least, the event over which I'd have the most control. Leave populated areas, practice basic hygiene, avoid sick people, etc.

Holy shit.

Is it really you?

He's been around for a few days, you need to pay better attention

[NeuPolska]

A pandemic sounds like the most survivable or, at least, the event over which I'd have the most control. Leave populated areas, practice basic hygiene, avoid sick people, etc.

Not so much. That's assuming it spreads like the flu. It could spread via rodents or mosquitoes, and those can get you anywhere. If it's spread via any insect really it'd be difficult to avoid. Besides, everyone else has the same idea as you. So where you go, someone else will come too. And then some poor girl who's in the early stages of infection shows up, says she's really hungry and thirsty and because it's early stage and she looks fine, you help her out because of your sense of morality. Then you get sick and die with her. You can't see the virus (or bacteria), and it's all over the world in countless numbers and easily spread, so it's very hard to avoid.

[United Marxist Nations]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Crusade

Such a couriers system wouldn't take all that long to create.

Moreover, many armies lived mainly off of forage (e.g. the Roman legions, Napoleon's armies).

By forage, you mean looting farms (the famers will fight you). The forage wasn't their main source, it was a supplement. By the way the People Crusade is a VERY bad example (there were only 40,000, they knew were they were going, they massacred Jews, and pillaged innocent cities). They never made it to the Holy Land.

By the way, most city people will not know how to farm.

You can have more than one group going in different directions, and 40,000 is quite a bit of people. I don't see why massacring people would affect how well they walked across a continent? Also, they didn't make it to the Holy Land because they were attacked by an army.

They don't have to farm, they just have to harvest, which isn't that hard.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

Holy shit.

Is it really you?

He's been around for a few days, you need to pay better attention

To be fair they have been gone since last year.

It is kind of hard to notice without the former flag.

[Zeon Refounded]

By forage, you mean looting farms (the famers will fight you). The forage wasn't their main source, it was a supplement. By the way the People Crusade is a VERY bad example (there were only 40,000, they knew were they were going, they massacred Jews, and pillaged innocent cities). They never made it to the Holy Land.

By the way, most city people will not know how to farm.

You can have more than one group going in different directions, and 40,000 is quite a bit of people. I don't see why massacring people would affect how well they walked across a continent? Also, they didn't make it to the Holy Land because they were attacked by an army.

People will fight your invaders to defend their property. You can expect rural farming towns to become military city states. You won't make it especially if you stray into the South.

[Scomagia]

A pandemic sounds like the most survivable or, at least, the event over which I'd have the most control. Leave populated areas, practice basic hygiene, avoid sick people, etc.

Not so much. That's assuming it spreads like the flu. It could spread via rodents or mosquitoes, and those can get you anywhere. If it's spread via any insect really it'd be difficult to avoid. Besides, everyone else has the same idea as you. So where you go, someone else will come too. And then some poor girl who's in the early stages of infection shows up, says she's really hungry and thirsty and because it's early stage and she looks fine, you help her out because of your sense of morality. Then you get sick and die with her. You can't see the virus (or bacteria), and it's all over the world in countless numbers and easily spread, so it's very hard to avoid.

I never said it was a foolproof plan. It does, however, have some degree of real world applicability and may (perhaps only slightly) increase the odds of survival.

In reality, I'd still probably die like most everyone else.

[United Marxist Nations]

You can have more than one group going in different directions, and 40,000 is quite a bit of people. I don't see why massacring people would affect how well they walked across a continent? Also, they didn't make it to the Holy Land because they were attacked by an army.

People will fight your invaders to defend their property. You can expect rural towns to become military city states. You won't make it especially if you stray into the South.

You know what the problem with rural towns becoming military city states? Their tiny population. What will they do when a roving group of people ten times the size of their town shows up?

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

Not so much. That's assuming it spreads like the flu. It could spread via rodents or mosquitoes, and those can get you anywhere. If it's spread via any insect really it'd be difficult to avoid. Besides, everyone else has the same idea as you. So where you go, someone else will come too. And then some poor girl who's in the early stages of infection shows up, says she's really hungry and thirsty and because it's early stage and she looks fine, you help her out because of your sense of morality. Then you get sick and die with her. You can't see the virus (or bacteria), and it's all over the world in countless numbers and easily spread, so it's very hard to avoid.

I never said it was a foolproof plan. It does, however, have some degree of real world applicability and may (perhaps only slightly) increase the odds of survival.

In reality, I'd still probably die like most everyone else.

Hopefully not in the hospitals. Worst place to die especially if there are only a few left.

[Peridot Best Gem]

Robot Invasion. If the roobo-tech is ANYTHING like our current tech, 95% of the invading forces would have glitched out by the third day (If you count all the times it must have been covered in water, hit, had some cords pulled, etc.). Just go on a boat in the middle of a large lake and those robots won't be able to get to you without getting shocked.

[Zeon Refounded]

People will fight your invaders to defend their property. You can expect rural towns to become military city states. You won't make it especially if you stray into the South.

You know what the problem with rural towns becoming military city states? Their tiny population. What will they do when a roving group of people ten times the size of their town shows up?

What if the said group sees the growing piles of bodies? What will they think as they as are splattered with the blood of their comrades while the bullets fly during their charge?

[United Marxist Nations]

You know what the problem with rural towns becoming military city states? Their tiny population. What will they do when a roving group of people ten times the size of their town shows up?

What if the said group sees the growing piles of bodies?

Never stopped anyone. Look at the Crossing of the Rhine in 405 or the Danube in 376. They knew that they were about to invade the greatest military power in human history that had chewed and spit out armies bigger than theirs, and they still marched in.

[NeuPolska]

Robot Invasion. If the roobo-tech is ANYTHING like our current tech, 95% of the invading forces would have glitched out by the third day (If you count all the times it must have been covered in water, hit, had some cords pulled, etc.). Just go on a boat in the middle of a large lake and those robots won't be able to get to you without getting shocked.

Surprise Motherfucker

I never said it was a foolproof plan. It does, however, have some degree of real world applicability and may (perhaps only slightly) increase the odds of survival.

In reality, I'd still probably die like most everyone else.

Yeah it's really the only viable plan. I just wanted to point out the fact that it's very hard to ensure your survival in a pandemic.