Islam/Muslim Discussion Thread ٢

[Jochizyd Republic]

Do you think Trump will authorize Muslims to form anti-extremist militias?

I'd join.

[Hashemite Arabiyah]

Do you think Trump will authorize Muslims to form anti-extremist militias?

I'd join.

Yes, because nothing can go wrong with that.

Muslims attacking other Muslims is no bueno.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Do you think Trump will authorize Muslims to form anti-extremist militias?

I'd join.

Yes, because nothing can go wrong with that.

Muslims attacking other Muslims is no bueno.

Not attacking. Just acting as a neighborhood watch of sorts. That's allowed to defend themselves.

[Hashemite Arabiyah]

Yes, because nothing can go wrong with that.

Muslims attacking other Muslims is no bueno.

Not attacking. Just acting as a neighborhood watch of sorts. That's allowed to defend themselves.

Defend themselves from...?

[Jochizyd Republic]

Not attacking. Just acting as a neighborhood watch of sorts. That's allowed to defend themselves.

Defend themselves from...?

Radicals, crime etc.

[Hashemite Arabiyah]

Defend themselves from...?

Radicals, crime etc.

Not my cup of tea, no that I think Trump would authorise such a thing.

So, thoughts on Hizb-ut Tahrir?

[Itoshiki]

Radicals, crime etc.

Not my cup of tea, no that I think Trump would authorise such a thing.

So, thoughts on Hizb-ut Tahrir?

My country has been putting up with them for too long.

[Hashemite Arabiyah]

Not my cup of tea, no that I think Trump would authorise such a thing.

So, thoughts on Hizb-ut Tahrir?

My country has been putting up with them for too long.

We have a branch here in the US, but they don't seem to influential. I'm sympathetic towards their aims of a Caliphate though...

[Jochizyd Republic]

Radicals, crime etc.

Not my cup of tea, no that I think Trump would authorise such a thing.

So, thoughts on Hizb-ut Tahrir?

Hizb ut Tahir is a bunch of bloodthirsty radical Islamists.
No redeemable qualities.

[Jochizyd Republic]

My country has been putting up with them for too long.

We have a branch here in the US, but they don't seem to influential. I'm sympathetic towards their aims of a Caliphate though...

They stand against everything you do though. Their view of a caliphate is revisionist (the Caliph does not serve the same way a communist dictator does as they seem to beleive) and results from being a replacement for the goal communism used to be with Middle Eastern Third Worldist revolutionaries.

[Greater Tezdrian]

We have a branch here in the US, but they don't seem to influential. I'm sympathetic towards their aims of a Caliphate though...

They stand against everything you do though. Their view of a caliphate is revisionist (the Caliph does not serve the same way a communist dictator does as they seem to beleive) and results from being a replacement for the goal communism used to be with Middle Eastern Third Worldist revolutionaries.

True.

I just like the idea of a united Khilafah ;-;

[Jochizyd Republic]

They stand against everything you do though. Their view of a caliphate is revisionist (the Caliph does not serve the same way a communist dictator does as they seem to beleive) and results from being a replacement for the goal communism used to be with Middle Eastern Third Worldist revolutionaries.

True.

I just like the idea of a united Khilafah ;-;

Same

[Greater Tezdrian]

True.

I just like the idea of a united Khilafah ;-;

Same

With a Khalifa who spreads peace and goodwill...

Hmmmm...

Sounds familiar; it's almost as if one already exists...

[Jochizyd Republic]

Same

With a Khalifa who spreads peace and goodwill...

Hmmmm...

Sounds familiar; it's almost as if one already exists...

Modernist Islam is peace and goodwill coming with a poison that destroys it's heritage. :^)

Nah, but Ahmadis don't actually do anything unlike Salafis. They should be left alone.

[Jochizyd Republic]

The Lahori Ahmadis are alright. They at least reject that Mirza was a Prophet.

Still don't agree with their interpretations though. Their interpretation of eschatology stretches quite a bit.

[Pasong Tirad]

How do you guys handle Islamophobia in the forums? Because I don't think I'm handling it very well.. I'm not trying to speak for Muslims/Islam (as I am a Catholic), but when I see intolerant/ignorant stereotypes I just can't help but call it out.

[Jochizyd Republic]

How do you guys handle Islamophobia in the forums? Because I don't think I'm handling it very well.. I'm not trying to speak for Muslims/Islam (as I am a Catholic), but when I see intolerant/ignorant stereotypes I just can't help but call it out.

You get used to it.

I hate how Liberals use "Islamophobia" for people who criticizing Islam and problems in the Islamic World even to a moderate level. Which is why I don't use the word Islamophobia for it anymore. Just...Anti Muslim.
Also I fail to see how being anti-Globalist is "Islamophobic".

But yeah, The Anti Muslim propaganda, as annoying as it is...just...needs to be ignored. Because, thanks to Liberals, defending the faith as passionately as people attack it somehow makes people associate you with far left Social Justice Extremists

[FORMER HATOOTELAND]

Yeah. Radical Islam is the greatest perpetrator of terrorism in the west right now and needs to go down.

that's because the media is do focused on "Islamic" terrorism that they are making it look like its more than it actually is

[Greater Tezdrian]

The Lahori Ahmadis are alright. They at least reject that Mirza was a Prophet.

Still don't agree with their interpretations though. Their interpretation of eschatology stretches quite a bit.

Boo Lahori Ahmadis.

[Alsheb]

I still am, mostly. Although in certain cases, provided there is an undeniably solid chain of transmission, I would be able to accept certain hadiths. Generally though, I try to trace back Islamic habits and ruling to the Qur'an, and disregard those traditions that have no basis in it.

There's already a vast tradition of learned scholars that did that.

Which is why I don't outright reject it, since I admit to not be an expert on the matter.

[Alsheb]

Radicals, crime etc.

Not my cup of tea, no that I think Trump would authorise such a thing.

So, thoughts on Hizb-ut Tahrir?

Seems like an interesting movement to me. And any organisation that combines popular liberation ideology with Islamic principles definitely draws my interest.

[Alsheb]

Not my cup of tea, no that I think Trump would authorise such a thing.

So, thoughts on Hizb-ut Tahrir?

Hizb ut Tahir is a bunch of bloodthirsty radical Islamists.
No redeemable qualities.

How exactly are they bloodthirsty? Seems like quite a stretch.

[Hashemite Arabiyah]

I have noticed anti-Islam sentiment on NSG seems to be in abundance recently, but maybe that's just me.

Whatever.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Hizb ut Tahir is a bunch of bloodthirsty radical Islamists.
No redeemable qualities.

How exactly are they bloodthirsty? Seems like quite a stretch.

They're pretty much by definition a Salafi Jihadi organization. They adhere to the same puritanical principles, use the same inflammatory rhetoric to divide Muslim and non Muslim and have a thing for Jihadi organizations.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Yeah. Radical Islam is the greatest perpetrator of terrorism in the west right now and needs to go down.

that's because the media is do focused on "Islamic" terrorism that they are making it look like its more than it actually is

But it is that prevalent. There’s an attack in Europe every month and mass executions going on in several different countries and encouragement for aaid acts in several more countriea. And a fundamentalist mindset prevalent in about half of the worldwide Muslim community that fosters this.

It's a problem.