Christian Discussion Thread VII: The Christ Awakens.

[Manitriton]

Probably because it is the most widespread and popular version. I prefer translations like the ESV

ESV is pretty decent. Apart from Young's Literal (which is almost unreadable) and the King James though, I haven't seen any that actually translates tenses correctly. Most translate the present tense use (especially heavily in Mark) as past tense. See, for example, Mark 15:21.

I guess people just wanted to make it easier for people to understand.. Sometimes it is good to read it in Greek

[Spiffier]

Not pertinent to this discussion, but why would you use the NIV? It's an impoverished translation.

It's the first one I found not to mention extremely wide spread, if you have a better translation, along with an actual explanation of why you say submit I'll see it.

I particularly dislike the NIV because it eschews uniformity of translation of terms. Perfect uniformity is impossible in English, for instance, the Hebrew word for "time" and "gathering" is the same word, and there is no equivalent term in English, so it must be translated differently depending context. But consistency in translation should be striven for as much as possible, as it irons out eisegesis, and the NIV doesn't just not strive for it, it is an expression of contempt for the objective. Any translation which aims for consistent translation of words as much as possible, is probably a good translation. For literary reasons, I also prefer translation which don't omit the copious use of "and" employed in the text, as it is an integral part of the style.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Honestly, every i think about building it "Bigger and Better" I think of this man

Pfffft. Amateur. You should be thinking of the man who built a bigger and better Church of Holy Wisdom.

So Bernie Sanders is a Seljuk? Makes sense.

[Spiffier]

ESV is pretty decent. Apart from Young's Literal (which is almost unreadable) and the King James though, I haven't seen any that actually translates tenses correctly. Most translate the present tense use (especially heavily in Mark) as past tense. See, for example, Mark 15:21.

I guess people just wanted to make it easier for people to understand.. Sometimes it is good to read it in Greek

Understanding present tense is not any harder, they alter it to accord with contemporary literary aesthetics.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/large-fire-engu ... ojmew.html

Once is happenstance, is twice coincidence? Or conspiracy?
Actually it is three times, so I call shenanigans

[The Princes of the Universe]

Christos anesti!

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/large-fire-engulfs-rockdale-church-hours-after-orthodox-easter-services-20160501-gojmew.html

Once is happenstance, is twice coincidence? Or conspiracy?
Actually it is three times, so I call shenanigans

Three fires that happen to be in churches across the entire planet is actually rather easily coincidental, considering the sheer number of churches. No conspiracy.

[The Alexanderians]

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/large-fire-engulfs-rockdale-church-hours-after-orthodox-easter-services-20160501-gojmew.html

Once is happenstance, is twice coincidence? Or conspiracy?
Actually it is three times, so I call shenanigans

Three fires that happen to be in churches across the entire planet is actually rather easily coincidental, considering the sheer number of churches. No conspiracy.

Yes uh there's no conspiracy to restart the Byzantine empire!

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Three fires that happen to be in churches across the entire planet is actually rather easily coincidental, considering the sheer number of churches. No conspiracy.

Yes uh there's no conspiracy to restart the Byzantine empire!

Wait there isn't? Good my consiracy to recreate the Roman Empire will go unopposed....

[United Marxist Nations]

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/large-fire-engulfs-rockdale-church-hours-after-orthodox-easter-services-20160501-gojmew.html

Once is happenstance, is twice coincidence? Or conspiracy?
Actually it is three times, so I call shenanigans

Three fires that happen to be in churches across the entire planet is actually rather easily coincidental, considering the sheer number of churches. No conspiracy.

Nope. It's those Venetians at it again. Can't trust them.

[Luminesa]

Three fires that happen to be in churches across the entire planet is actually rather easily coincidental, considering the sheer number of churches. No conspiracy.

Yes uh there's no conspiracy to restart the Byzantine empire!

*Puts hand over Alexandrians's mouth.* Shhhhhh! You're gonna invite Justinian!

[Czervenika]

Most commonly of Easter = Isthar

Yeah, it's depressingly common. So common, in fact, that actual pagans are getting annoyed at how stupid it is.

As that article so eloquently puts it:

"HOLY CRAP IT LOOKS A BIT LIKE ISHTAR IN MY LANGUAGE, THEREFORE THE WHOLE FESTIVAL MUST BE ABOUT A BABYLONIAN GODDESS."

Ahahahaha I always see that "Easter is pagan!" stuff spread around the time of Latin Easter. By the time Orthodox Easter comes around it seems everybody just forgets about it for another year. There's proof the Orthodox Church is the true church .

(To those reading this, I'm totally just being funny. Don't take the last bit seriously.)

[The Alexanderians]

Yeah, it's depressingly common. So common, in fact, that actual pagans are getting annoyed at how stupid it is.

As that article so eloquently puts it:

"HOLY CRAP IT LOOKS A BIT LIKE ISHTAR IN MY LANGUAGE, THEREFORE THE WHOLE FESTIVAL MUST BE ABOUT A BABYLONIAN GODDESS."

Ahahahaha I always see that "Easter is pagan!" stuff spread around the time of Latin Easter. By the time Orthodox Easter comes around it seems everybody just forgets about it for another year. There's proof the Orthodox Church is the true church .

(To those reading this, I'm totally just being funny. Don't take the last bit seriously.)

Unless of course they happen to line up. Which they do.
I like it when they don't. No talk of Ishtar and my candy is cheaper.

[Luminesa]

Yeah, it's depressingly common. So common, in fact, that actual pagans are getting annoyed at how stupid it is.

As that article so eloquently puts it:

"HOLY CRAP IT LOOKS A BIT LIKE ISHTAR IN MY LANGUAGE, THEREFORE THE WHOLE FESTIVAL MUST BE ABOUT A BABYLONIAN GODDESS."

Ahahahaha I always see that "Easter is pagan!" stuff spread around the time of Latin Easter. By the time Orthodox Easter comes around it seems everybody just forgets about it for another year. There's proof the Orthodox Church is the true church .

(To those reading this, I'm totally just being funny. Don't take the last bit seriously.)

The Orthodox Church is really good at keeping it all under the radar. Strategically placing Orthodox Easter after Catholic Easter.

More like proof that the Orthodox are NINJAS!!!

[Czervenika]

Unless of course they happen to line up. Which they do.
I like it when they don't. No talk of Ishtar and my candy is cheaper.

Yes. I consider Latin Easter to be chocolate day, or at least the day after since there's sales. Didn't get any this year though .

[Czervenika]

The Orthodox Church is really good at keeping it all under the radar. Strategically placing Orthodox Easter after Catholic Easter.

More like proof that the Orthodox are NINJAS!!!

I've always wanted to be a ninja, bwahahaha.

[Czechanada]

Ahahahaha I always see that "Easter is pagan!" stuff spread around the time of Latin Easter. By the time Orthodox Easter comes around it seems everybody just forgets about it for another year. There's proof the Orthodox Church is the true church .

(To those reading this, I'm totally just being funny. Don't take the last bit seriously.)

The Orthodox Church is really good at keeping it all under the radar. Strategically placing Orthodox Easter after Catholic Easter.

More like proof that the Orthodox are NINJAS!!!

The Julian calendar is an anachronism.

Ninjas also are an anachronism.

Your proof checks out!

[Luminesa]

The Orthodox Church is really good at keeping it all under the radar. Strategically placing Orthodox Easter after Catholic Easter.

More like proof that the Orthodox are NINJAS!!!

The Julian calendar is an anachronism.

Ninjas also are an anachronism.

Your proof checks out!

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

NINJAS TRANSCEND TIME PERIODS!!!!

TRANSFORMATION JUTSU!!!

*Uses the Jutsu to turn into a kitten.*

*Kitten jumps on Czech's head.*

[Czechanada]

The Julian calendar is an anachronism.

Ninjas also are an anachronism.

Your proof checks out!

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

NINJAS TRANSCEND TIME PERIODS!!!!

TRANSFORMATION JUTSU!!!

*Uses the Jutsu to turn into a kitten.*

*Kitten jumps on Czech's head.*

And here I thought that the use of chakra constituted witchcraft.

[The Alexanderians]

Ahahahaha I always see that "Easter is pagan!" stuff spread around the time of Latin Easter. By the time Orthodox Easter comes around it seems everybody just forgets about it for another year. There's proof the Orthodox Church is the true church .

(To those reading this, I'm totally just being funny. Don't take the last bit seriously.)

The Orthodox Church is really good at keeping it all under the radar. Strategically placing Orthodox Easter after Catholic Easter.

More like proof that the Orthodox are NINJAS!!!

Jedi thank you very much

[Czervenika]

The Orthodox Church is really good at keeping it all under the radar. Strategically placing Orthodox Easter after Catholic Easter.

More like proof that the Orthodox are NINJAS!!!

Jedi thank you very much

Does this mean we can use The Force? Coooool.

[The Alexanderians]

Jedi thank you very much

Does this mean we can use The Force? Coooool.

This is a reoccurring joke in the thread
http://i.imgur.com/tIBujHi.jpg


Now we've veered off into chat territory again.

[Czervenika]

Does this mean we can use The Force? Coooool.

This is a reoccurring joke in the thread
http://i.imgur.com/tIBujHi.jpg


Now we've veered off into chat territory again.

So it's truuuuuuue. We are Jedis .

[Herskerstad]

Does this mean we can use The Force? Coooool.

This is a reoccurring joke in the thread
http://i.imgur.com/tIBujHi.jpg


Now we've veered off into chat territory again.

I am against the use of force from the clergy.

[Czechanada]

Have there been any movements in any of the Orthodox Churches to switch to the Gregorian calendar?