North Carolina Passes "Anti-LGBT" Bill

[Grenartia]

Sorry. >.<

I'm way angrier with myself than I am with you. I've spent a lot of time over the past couple of years keeping an eye out for fake news and stuff, and I took this one at face value.

Same.

[Grenartia]

To be fair, a lot of biology classes in US High Schools don't cover this stuff, and the health classes rarely do, and if they do, its usually that right-wing abstinence-only shit, with a heaping dose of fearmongering on the side.

It is so difficult to get high quality fearmongering these days. So much of it is processed, with sugar and fats - but not tasty trans fats, of course, thanks FDA! - and salt, really, it just isn't very good.

Well, the people who oppose comprehensive sex ed generally do have a lot of salt to offer.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Which members of the North Carolina state government have claimed that this bill was meant to prevent the spread of STDs?

Let me rephrase that: North Carolina could, in part, be passing this bill for medical reasons.

I bet you think kissing transmits AIDS too.

[Farnhamia]

Let me rephrase that: North Carolina could, in part, be passing this bill for medical reasons.

I bet you think kissing transmits AIDS too.

Only if AIDS = cooties. *nod*

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

I bet you think kissing transmits AIDS too.

Only if AIDS = cooties. *nod*

Cooties is AIDS. It was a myth proliferated among children to keep them safe from dirty homosexuals. *nods*

[The Black Forrest]

Only if AIDS = cooties. *nod*

Cooties is AIDS. It was a myth proliferated among children to keep them safe from dirty homosexuals. *nods*

No no no. AIDS is by product. Cooties can turn you into a homosexual.

[Ifreann]

I bet you think kissing transmits AIDS too.

Only if AIDS = cooties. *nod*

People with AIDS can, with expensive medication, live normal lives.

People with cooties can only be quarantined, until they succumb to their dreadful affliction.

[Gauthier]

Only if AIDS = cooties. *nod*

People with AIDS can, with expensive medication, live normal lives.

People with cooties can only be quarantined, until they succumb to their dreadful affliction.

Wait until the virii combine and form AIDSies.

[Veceria]

People with AIDS can, with expensive medication, live normal lives.

People with cooties can only be quarantined, until they succumb to their dreadful affliction.

Wait until the virii combine and form AIDSies.

Sounds cute.

[Frank Zipper]

Only if AIDS = cooties. *nod*

People with AIDS can, with expensive medication, live normal lives.

People with cooties can only be quarantined, until they succumb to their dreadful affliction.

I blame those antibiotic resistant MRAs.

[Nochov]

Good for North Carolina. Hopefully after Trump becomes the US president, he'll repeal more of the liberal nonsense laws the US has gotten in the past few years.
It's disappointing to think that the USA, which is many ways influences the policies of the entire West, is getting so overrun with those mentally ill and fringe organisations.

[Vassenor]

Good for North Carolina. Hopefully after Trump becomes the US president, he'll repeal more of the liberal nonsense laws the US has gotten in the past few years.
It's disappointing to think that the USA, which is many ways influences the policies of the entire West, is getting so overrun with those mentally ill and fringe organisations.

Because how dare cities try to raise the minimum wage above the state mandate.

[Nochov]

Good for North Carolina. Hopefully after Trump becomes the US president, he'll repeal more of the liberal nonsense laws the US has gotten in the past few years.
It's disappointing to think that the USA, which is many ways influences the policies of the entire West, is getting so overrun with those mentally ill and fringe organisations.

Because how dare cities try to raise the minimum wage above the state mandate.

Good job assuming I'm against one group of laws because I oppose another group of laws.
Not that the cities should have any authority to make such determinations against the federal recommendation in the first place, but oh well.

[Valaran]

It's disappointing to think that the USA, which is many ways influences the policies of the entire West, is getting so overrun with those mentally ill and fringe organisations.

Can't be that fringe if they're overrunning things

[Vassenor]

Because how dare cities try to raise the minimum wage above the state mandate.

Good job assuming I'm against one group of laws because I oppose another group of laws.
Not that the cities should have any authority to make such determinations against the federal recommendation in the first place, but oh well.

This is actually one of the provisions of this bill though, as part of its blanket prohibition on cities and municipalities passing anti-discrimination ordinances that cover more than state law does.

[Nochov]

It's disappointing to think that the USA, which is many ways influences the policies of the entire West, is getting so overrun with those mentally ill and fringe organisations.

Can't be that fringe if they're overrunning things

Yet as soon as you look at opinion polls you'll find more people opposing these changes than supporting them, and a vast group wallowing in apathy.

Good job assuming I'm against one group of laws because I oppose another group of laws.
Not that the cities should have any authority to make such determinations against the federal recommendation in the first place, but oh well.

This is actually one of the provisions of this bill though, as part of its blanket prohibition on cities and municipalities passing anti-discrimination ordinances that cover more than state law does.

Mm, your legislative system depending so much on "rider" provisions is just another sickening detail in the whole mess.

[Vassenor]

Can't be that fringe if they're overrunning things

Yet as soon as you look at opinion polls you'll find more people opposing these changes than supporting them, and a vast group wallowing in apathy.

This is actually one of the provisions of this bill though, as part of its blanket prohibition on cities and municipalities passing anti-discrimination ordinances that cover more than state law does.

Mm, your legislative system depending so much on "rider" provisions is just another sickening detail in the whole mess.

Good job assuming I'm American because I have issues with American laws.

[Valaran]

Can't be that fringe if they're overrunning things

Yet as soon as you look at opinion polls you'll find more people opposing these changes than supporting them, and a vast group wallowing in apathy.

In NC itself, or nationally?

[Nochov]

Yet as soon as you look at opinion polls you'll find more people opposing these changes than supporting them, and a vast group wallowing in apathy.

Mm, your legislative system depending so much on "rider" provisions is just another sickening detail in the whole mess.

Good job assuming I'm American because I have issues with American laws.

My apologies. Swap out the "your" for a "their" if my assumption upsets you so.

Yet as soon as you look at opinion polls you'll find more people opposing these changes than supporting them, and a vast group wallowing in apathy.

In NC itself, or nationally?

Depending on the issue at hand, either or both.

[Valaran]

In NC itself, or nationally?

Depending on the issue at hand, either or both.

Not that explanatory. Have any polls to hand?

[Nochov]

Depending on the issue at hand, either or both.

Not that explanatory. Have any polls to hand?

http://publicreligion.org/2015/02/state ... -marriage/

[Valaran]

Not that explanatory. Have any polls to hand?

http://publicreligion.org/2015/02/state ... -marriage/

Yeah, NC itself is against, but nationally, the US is in favour. Also, most people seem to have an opinion (strength of those opinions cannot be determined), so not exactly 'masses wallowing in apathy'.

Finally, the decade trend has been for those in favour to grow considerably, with no sign of this being reversed.

[Grenartia]

http://publicreligion.org/2015/02/state ... -marriage/

Yeah, NC itself is against, but nationally, the US is in favour. Also, most people seem to have an opinion (strength of those opinions cannot be determined), so not exactly 'masses wallowing in apathy'.

Finally, the decade trend has been for those in favour to grow considerably, with no sign of this being reversed.

To say nothing of the fact that human rights shouldn't be subject to the whims of popular opinion.

[Val Halla]

http://publicreligion.org/2015/02/state ... -marriage/

Yeah, NC itself is against, but nationally, the US is in favour. Also, most people seem to have an opinion (strength of those opinions cannot be determined), so not exactly 'masses wallowing in apathy'.

Finally, the decade trend has been for those in favour to grow considerably, with no sign of this being reversed.

Plus most of the people in the areas where the bill effects (Charlotte) are not against LGBT

[Nochov]

http://publicreligion.org/2015/02/state ... -marriage/

Yeah, NC itself is against, but nationally, the US is in favour. Also, most people seem to have an opinion (strength of those opinions cannot be determined), so not exactly 'masses wallowing in apathy'.

Finally, the decade trend has been for those in favour to grow considerably, with no sign of this being reversed.

I don't agree that in this case the national result is disappointing, but if you just look at South Dakota and the states listed after it you'll see that enough of the nation is strongly enough against it that the federal legislation can't in any way be considered fair or in benefit to the people.
Plus, I'd say that the multiple cases of ten to twenty percent apathetics in just this one poll is enough to justify calling them a wallowing mass of apathy, but then maybe I'm just a pessimist.