Replacing Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

[Ashmoria]

this one thing is more important than anything else this or the next president will be able to do (if it is a democrat).

The same could be said if we have a Republican President.

BTW, I LOVE how "wait for the next pres" is OK if they are a dem, but the end of the world if the next pres is a republican.

I don't understand why that would be funny.

I don't want to wait for the next president but president sanders wont nominate a person all that different from whoever president Obama will nominate. president cruz on the other hand would nominate someone as different as you can get in legal circles.

[Ashmoria]

You don't think nine and a half months (or more) of SCOTUS being deadlocked on the most critical cases looks a bit like a shutdown?

4-4 ties result in lower court decisions being upheld without precedent created

and is a better outcome for democrats than with scalia remaining on the court.

[Big Jim P]

The same could be said if we have a Republican President.

BTW, I LOVE how "wait for the next pres" is OK if they are a dem, but the end of the world if the next pres is a republican.

I don't understand why that would be funny.

I don't want to wait for the next president but president sanders wont nominate a person all that different from whoever president Obama will nominate. president cruz on the other hand would nominate someone as different as you can get in legal circles.

Exactly, which is why we need to do everything possible to prevent an obama/bernie appointment.

[Ashmoria]

I don't understand why that would be funny.

I don't want to wait for the next president but president sanders wont nominate a person all that different from whoever president Obama will nominate. president cruz on the other hand would nominate someone as different as you can get in legal circles.

Exactly, which is why we need to do everything possible to prevent an obama/bernie appointment.

sorry ill try my best to make sure that the whitehouse remains democratic. we cant afford the republican suckification of America.

[Big Jim P]

I expect whoever Obama nominates will be as blandly middle of the road centrist and inoffensive as possible.

From our end, that sort of Justice would still be a vast improvement over Scalia, and it limits the ability of the Republicans to make excuses about waa waa liberal activist.

On the Republican end it puts them in a position where if they block them they look like blatant obstructionists to all the moderates and undecides and take the risk of a far more liberal justice being appointed if a Democrat wins the election, but if they confirm them they go into an election with their own voting base in an uproar over them being filthy RINO traitors who sold out to Obama.

Scalias death literally couldn't have come at a worse time for the GOP.

an inoffensive justice is still for abortion rights, voting rights, union rights, campaign finance reform, gun regulations, environmental issues, and whatever else I cant think of right now.

that is far more than a democratic president can get done with a republican house.

Agreed 4/2.

[Big Jim P]

Exactly, which is why we need to do everything possible to prevent an obama/bernie appointment.

sorry ill try my best to make sure that the whitehouse remains democratic. we cant afford the republican suckification of America.

What we can't afford is a further slide to the left.

[Godular]

sorry ill try my best to make sure that the whitehouse remains democratic. we cant afford the republican suckification of America.

What we can't afford is a further slide to the left.

I don't see a problem with it.

[Ashmoria]

sorry ill try my best to make sure that the whitehouse remains democratic. we cant afford the republican suckification of America.

What we can't afford is a further slide to the left.

we don't need a big slide to the left so much as a way to get enacted the leftishness that we already agree on.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

this one thing is more important than anything else this or the next president will be able to do (if it is a democrat).

The same could be said if we have a Republican President.

BTW, I LOVE how "wait for the next pres" is OK if they are a dem, but the end of the world if the next pres is a republican.

Thats because a republican president would be the end of the world. Considering the homophobic, transphobic, and often racist stances of the two front runners (Namely Trump and Cruz), and the lackluster policies of the rest of the gang (not the the same horrible degree as the two front runners), there is great reason for us to fear a GOP win in 2016, and the justices they would appoint (beyond just Scalia).

[Big Jim P]

What we can't afford is a further slide to the left.

I don't see a problem with it.

I do.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Another thing I find funny id the liberals/democrats already trying to spin this as if the Republicans refusing to confirm is going to shut down SCOTUS like their refusal to compromise on the budget shut down the government.

I see it as hypocrisy from conservatives.

I just see it as the timely death of a powerful bigoted creep, and hope the person who succeeds the bastard isn't one.

[Big Jim P]

The same could be said if we have a Republican President.

BTW, I LOVE how "wait for the next pres" is OK if they are a dem, but the end of the world if the next pres is a republican.

Thats because a republican president would be the end of the world. Considering the homophobic, transphobic, and often racist stances of the two front runners (Namely Trump and Cruz), and the lackluster policies of the rest of the gang (not the the same horrible degree as the two front runners), there is great reason for us to fear a GOP win in 2016, and the justices they would appoint (beyond just Scalia).

Exaggerate much? Hardly the end of the world.

[Ethel mermania]

Another thing I find funny id the liberals/democrats already trying to spin this as if the Republicans refusing to confirm is going to shut down SCOTUS like their refusal to compromise on the budget shut down the government.

I see it as hypocrisy from conservatives.

I just see it as the timely death of a powerful bigoted creep, and hope the person who succeeds the bastard isn't one.

and i hope for an obama appointment of another running dog lackey of the oppressor class's to preserve the current hegemony over the repressed and unwashed.

[Ethel mermania]

The same could be said if we have a Republican President.

BTW, I LOVE how "wait for the next pres" is OK if they are a dem, but the end of the world if the next pres is a republican.

Thats because a republican president would be the end of the world. Considering the homophobic, transphobic, and often racist stances of the two front runners (Namely Trump and Cruz), and the lackluster policies of the rest of the gang (not the the same horrible degree as the two front runners), there is great reason for us to fear a GOP win in 2016, and the justices they would appoint (beyond just Scalia).

trump use to hang out at studio 54, i wouldnt put much faith in his pitches to the evangelicals

[Godular]

I don't see a problem with it.

I do.

'Bit of a shame. We agree on so much, yet somehow one is a rightie and the other a leftie.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Thats because a republican president would be the end of the world. Considering the homophobic, transphobic, and often racist stances of the two front runners (Namely Trump and Cruz), and the lackluster policies of the rest of the gang (not the the same horrible degree as the two front runners), there is great reason for us to fear a GOP win in 2016, and the justices they would appoint (beyond just Scalia).

Exaggerate much? Hardly the end of the world.

Certainly is the end of the world to someone who isn't cisgender, straight, male, and white.

[Greed and Death]

Another thing I find funny id the liberals/democrats already trying to spin this as if the Republicans refusing to confirm is going to shut down SCOTUS like their refusal to compromise on the budget shut down the government.

You don't think nine and a half months (or more) of SCOTUS being deadlocked on the most critical cases looks a bit like a shutdown?

Less than 1% of all cases appealed to SCOTUS are granted cert and about 10% of those are are decided by a 5-4 margin and then half of those would be decided by Kennedy + the liberal wing as 5-3. So we are looking at .05% of all cases appeal to the Supreme Court ( a good deal more the lawyer knows there is no chance and lets it go). I highly doubt .05% of all cases being tied and sent back to the circuit court is going to cause the pillars of the Republic to come crashing down.

A New justice would not be deciding cases anyways since they will have missed oral arguments. Even a speedy appointment and confirmation is 3-4 months away and by then the terms oral arguments will be over. It will not really be until next year that a new appointee does anything.

[AiliailiA]

Rubio is technically correct, it's been a long time since a President made a SC nomination in their last year.

But it's quite unusual for SC justices to die in office. Only twice in the last 60 years (Robert H. Jackson, 1954, and William Rehnquist, 2005). Thirteen times (including those two) in the whole 20th century and up to now. In that time there have been 55 appointments to the court.
Divide that chance by 8 to get the likelihood of it happening in the last year of an 8-year presidency ...

It's not that previous Presidents declined to make late nominations for some 'unwritten rule' reason. They simply rarely get the chance to do so by an incumbent dying.

[Staythefout]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... er-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

[AiliailiA]

You don't think nine and a half months (or more) of SCOTUS being deadlocked on the most critical cases looks a bit like a shutdown?

Less than 1% of all cases appealed to SCOTUS are granted cert and about 10% of those are are decided by a 5-4 margin.

So? Those are the ones I described as "most critical".

A New justice would not be deciding cases anyways since they will have missed oral arguments. Even a speedy appointment and confirmation is 3-4 months away and by then the terms oral arguments will be over. It will not really be until next year that a new appointee does anything.

October isn't "next year" and furthermore: if confirmation will take 3-4 months next year the new justice will be similarly delayed from taking part in cases then.

[Washington Resistance Army]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/what-was-justice-scalias-shoulder-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

Didn't you hear? I already admitted to being the assassin.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/what-was-justice-scalias-shoulder-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

Yes. Clearly Obama is going to have a justice murdered who he cannot possibly hope to replace with the lame duck Congress he currently has full of GOP senators who will literally vote "no" on anyone he nominates and disagree with him on every level. Also, Breitbart is not a source.

[AiliailiA]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/what-was-justice-scalias-shoulder-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

Brietbart is bullshit.

[Godular]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/what-was-justice-scalias-shoulder-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

Oh look, conspiracy theories.

Why should the judge see his body? That's the coroner's job.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/what-was-justice-scalias-shoulder-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

Oh look, conspiracy theories.

Why should the judge see his body? That's the coroner's job.

"But... but... Obama wants to take muh freedumz!"