What is your gender identity and sexual orientation? Part II

[Camicon]

That's exactly how you use "arbitrary". Why should people be forced into using one bathroom over another because of what plumbing they've got?

Imo if you're biologically male you should go to the men's toilet and vice versa, regardless of what you define yourself as. It just seems logical.
Besides, goodluck using a urinoir with a vagina.

Bathrooms designated as "male" also have stalls. And whether or not you think something is "logical" should not force people to use one set of facilities over another.

[Alvecia]

Typically male bathrooms have stalls as well.
You know.
In case you need a shit.

I don't know if you've ever used a stall in a public toilet, but they're often more resembling a shrine to Nurgle instead of an actual toilet. Wouldn't want to sit on that.

Quality isn't relevant here. That they exist is all you need.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Typically male bathrooms have stalls as well.
You know.
In case you need a shit.

I don't know if you've ever used a stall in a public toilet, but they're often more resembling a shrine to Nurgle instead of an actual toilet. Wouldn't want to sit on that.

When you have to take a shit you have to take a shit *shrugs*

I've had to take shits on metal stalls.

[Alvecia]

I don't know if you've ever used a stall in a public toilet, but they're often more resembling a shrine to Nurgle instead of an actual toilet. Wouldn't want to sit on that.

When you have to take a shit you have to take a shit *shrugs*

I've had to take shits on metal stalls.

Festival shits are often pretty grotty.
I went Glastonbury once and it was literally juust a raised platform over a ditch.
The stalls were just holes in the platform with walls around it.

[Venedocia]

Intersex asexual. That being said, I prefer female pronouns.

[Kuruinullah]

Straight, male.

On another note there are only two genders

[Venedocia]

Straight, male.

On another note there are only two genders

No, there's not.

[Kuruinullah]

Straight, male.

On another note there are only two genders

No, there's not.

Gender is determined by how much Testosterone and Estrogen are in your body, therefore there can only be two.

[Arcturus Novus]

Agender, pansexual. Also, there's a ton of straight men here.

[Arcturus Novus]

No, there's not.

Gender is determined by how much Testosterone and Estrogen are in your body, therefore there can only be two.

Gender as we understand it today is a concept created by the Western world, and it was never originally based on hormones, just outward appearances. Other non-Western societies had more than two genders. Many Native Americans recognized "two-spirit" genders, the Thai people had kathoeys (sp?), at least one Polynesian people had a third gender, the Balkan nations had "sworn virgins". Saying there's only two genders is just false. Hell, when you take into account intersex individuals, some could argue that there's not even two sexes. So please, before you post something that's just objectively wrong, try to read some facts beforehand.

[Kuruinullah]

Gender is determined by how much Testosterone and Estrogen are in your body, therefore there can only be two.

Gender as we understand it today is a concept created by the Western world, and it was never originally based on hormones, just outward appearances. Other non-Western societies had more than two genders. Many Native Americans recognized "two-spirit" genders, the Thai people had kathoeys (sp?), at least one Polynesian people had a third gender, the Balkan nations had "sworn virgins". Saying there's only two genders is just false. Hell, when you take into account intersex individuals, some could argue that there's not even two sexes. So please, before you post something that's just objectively wrong, try to read some facts beforehand.

[Venedocia]

Gender as we understand it today is a concept created by the Western world, and it was never originally based on hormones, just outward appearances. Other non-Western societies had more than two genders. Many Native Americans recognized "two-spirit" genders, the Thai people had kathoeys (sp?), at least one Polynesian people had a third gender, the Balkan nations had "sworn virgins". Saying there's only two genders is just false. Hell, when you take into account intersex individuals, some could argue that there's not even two sexes. So please, before you post something that's just objectively wrong, try to read some facts beforehand.

Proof of there not being two genders are intersex folk such as myself.

Try harder.

[Italios]

Proof of there not being two genders are intersex folk such as myself.

Try harder.

Intersex, as the name suggests, is a sex, something one is born with. Gender refers to either/or society's gender roles or a person's gender identity, and it does not necessarily line up with biological sex. A lot of people who claim there are only two genders are simply confusing the two terms.

[Venedocia]

Proof of there not being two genders are intersex folk such as myself.

Try harder.

Intersex, as the name suggests, is a sex, something one is born with. Gender refers to either/or society's gender roles or a person's gender identity, and it does not necessarily line up with biological sex. A lot of people who claim there are only two genders are simply confusing the two terms.

It can also be a gender.

[Grenartia]

No, there's not.

Gender is determined by how much Testosterone and Estrogen are in your body, therefore there can only be two.

No, its not. Its determined by psychology.

Also, even if gender was determined by hormone levels, that would still mean there's more than two. Haven't you ever heard of a fucking spectrum?

[Grenartia]

Intersex, as the name suggests, is a sex, something one is born with. Gender refers to either/or society's gender roles or a person's gender identity, and it does not necessarily line up with biological sex. A lot of people who claim there are only two genders are simply confusing the two terms.

It can also be a gender.

Not really. Intersex is a sex (as indicated by the last 3 letters of the word), not a gender.

[Ifreann]

No, there's not.

Gender is determined by how much Testosterone and Estrogen are in your body, therefore there can only be two.

Even if your premise were true, your conclusion does not follow from it.

[Razgriskm]

Imo if you're biologically male you should go to the men's toilet and vice versa, regardless of what you define yourself as. It just seems logical.
Besides, goodluck using a urinoir with a vagina.

Bathrooms designated as "male" also have stalls. And whether or not you think something is "logical" should not force people to use one set of facilities over another.

Force? mm. Well, if its a public bathroom (As most gender-assigned bathrooms are) then you'll find yourself escorted out the property if you go in there with the wrong junk.

[Camicon]

Bathrooms designated as "male" also have stalls. And whether or not you think something is "logical" should not force people to use one set of facilities over another.

Force? mm. Well, if its a public bathroom (As most gender-assigned bathrooms are) then you'll find yourself escorted out the property if you go in there with the wrong junk.

Right, so you want to force people to use one particular set of facilities for some completely arbitrary reason that makes absolutely no sense if you spend even five seconds thinking about it.

[Venedocia]

It can also be a gender.

Not really. Intersex is a sex (as indicated by the last 3 letters of the word), not a gender.

I've met people who say it's their gender.

[Grenartia]

Not really. Intersex is a sex (as indicated by the last 3 letters of the word), not a gender.

I've met people who say it's their gender.

They're probably suffering from the misconception that sex = gender, then.

[Vahagn]

Hetero cis male scum.

[Othelos]

No, there's not.

Gender is determined by how much Testosterone and Estrogen are in your body, therefore there can only be two.

What about people who have neither, low amounts or high amounts of both?

[Kelinfort]

Hetero cis male scum.

Aww you're not scum.

[Elepis]

Gender as we understand it today is a concept created by the Western world, and it was never originally based on hormones, just outward appearances. Other non-Western societies had more than two genders. Many Native Americans recognized "two-spirit" genders, the Thai people had kathoeys (sp?), at least one Polynesian people had a third gender, the Balkan nations had "sworn virgins". Saying there's only two genders is just false. Hell, when you take into account intersex individuals, some could argue that there's not even two sexes. So please, before you post something that's just objectively wrong, try to read some facts beforehand.

does the phrase "go outside and speak to people" mean anything to you?

Ps: bi cis male