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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:41 am

Cruithneach wrote:I think there's a difference between being anti-Israel and anti-semetic. I'm personally anti-Israel, that's got to do with politics more than religion. I'm alright with Jews, just not the country Israel, which I think is where Anonymous comes in.

No, Anonymous probably does just hate Jews. And Israel. And Palestine.
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Postby Indominous » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:48 am

Cruithneach wrote:I think there's a difference between being anti-Israel and anti-semetic. I'm personally anti-Israel, that's got to do with politics more than religion. I'm alright with Jews, just not the country Israel, which I think is where Anonymous comes in.

But isn't the whole idea behind Israel about Jews I mean you can't be hey I hate Israel then say Na I don't hate Jews just Israel their both intertwined Israel is a Jewish State smack dab in the middle of the Muslim World.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:49 am

Indominous wrote:
Cruithneach wrote:I think there's a difference between being anti-Israel and anti-semetic. I'm personally anti-Israel, that's got to do with politics more than religion. I'm alright with Jews, just not the country Israel, which I think is where Anonymous comes in.

But isn't the whole idea behind Israel about Jews I mean you can't be hey I hate Israel then say Na I don't hate Jews just Israel their both intertwined Israel is a Jewish State smack dab in the middle of the Muslim World.

But isn't the thread about Anonymous, not Jews or Israel?
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Postby Indominous » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:51 am

Ifreann wrote:
Indominous wrote:But isn't the whole idea behind Israel about Jews I mean you can't be hey I hate Israel then say Na I don't hate Jews just Israel their both intertwined Israel is a Jewish State smack dab in the middle of the Muslim World.

But isn't the thread about Anonymous, not Jews or Israel?

couldn't it be? Yes it can I was sorta elaborating on the Anti-semantic part

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Postby Gyrenaica » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:53 am

They're... Interesting to say the least... No main ideology unites them so...

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:54 am

Gyrenaica wrote:They're... Interesting to say the least... No main ideology unites them so...

So they are like the US then i.e. no real leader, and those who say their the seniority just do stuff for shits and giggles?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:58 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:They're... Interesting to say the least... No main ideology unites them so...

So they are like the US then i.e. no real leader, and those who say their the seniority just do stuff for shits and giggles?

Yeah, that's exactly what the US is like. :roll:
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Postby San Eulogio » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:43 am

I generally hate anarchism with a deep passion, and I'll probably pray everyday for it's end.

Anyways, besides that, Anonymous is just a collection of filth from every corner of possible political sides that can team up with anarchism, but they are generally anti-semetic (since the majority of socialists are pro-Palestine and a part of the far right just hate jews).
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Postby The New Communist Order » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:45 am

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Postby Vashty » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:21 am

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Postby Vashty » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:23 am

San Eulogio wrote:I generally hate anarchism with a deep passion, and I'll probably pray everyday for it's end.

Anyways, besides that, Anonymous is just a collection of filth from every corner of possible political sides that can team up with anarchism, but they are generally anti-semetic (since the majority of socialists are pro-Palestine and a part of the far right just hate jews).


There is no proof whatsoever for Anonymous being anti-semitic, and there are a whole range of people who support Palestine's right to self-determination as a nation, and also the existence of a state of Israel.
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Postby Sanctissima » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:24 am

A very loose conglomeration of hacktivists.

I dunno, I guess it's 4chan for virgins living in their mothers' basements. To each his own.

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Postby Vashty » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:25 am

Sanctissima wrote:A very loose conglomeration of hacktivists.

I dunno, I guess it's 4chan for virgins living in their mothers' basements. To each his own.


Don't they have ex-FBI people or is that just a rumour?
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Postby Revolts in Dublin » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:36 am

It's a load of crap.

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Postby New DeCapito » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:53 am

In theory, a digital army should be unstoppable. The practice shows just how flawed humanity can get. These people bring all of our standards down.
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Postby Sanctissima » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:26 am

Vashty wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:A very loose conglomeration of hacktivists.

I dunno, I guess it's 4chan for virgins living in their mothers' basements. To each his own.


Don't they have ex-FBI people or is that just a rumour?


Probably just a rumour, although to be honest, I don't know.

At any rate, it's not really a group, so much as a very loose collection of like-minded people that come and go. So, if by some chance, they did have any ex-FBI members (which would be really unlikely considering how both the CIA and FBI would probably have something to say about that), then they might not necessarily be a "full-time hacktivist", so to speak.

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Postby Frank Zipper » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:28 am

Sanctissima wrote:A very loose conglomeration of hacktivists.

I dunno, I guess it's 4chan for virgins living in their mothers' basements. To each his own.


I thought that was 4chan.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:50 am

It's the third page and there hasn't been one mention of 'hackers on steroids!'

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:52 pm

This article is stupid and the person who wrote it should feel stupid. You can't compare the modern Anonymous to the Anonymous of Old because Anonymous went mainstream and was adopted into various causes and in turn became very different than what the original Anonymous was.

Really there are two Anonymous these days.

There's modern Anonymous who are online Vigilantes and Hacktivists who use their power for various causes and against various threats against the internet for the greater good.

Then there's Old Anon from the chans, Hackers on Steroids, the internet Hate Machine, the Final Boss of the Internet, etc, etc, that green guy in a suit, who trolled for the sake of trolling and cared of nothing but themselves and who did things simply because they could.

Old Anon mostly faded years ago though it's had a bit of a resurgence due to the rise of certain chan boards.
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Postby Latlandia » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:35 pm

They just boast around about ""declaring war on ISIS", while what they actually do is sitting on their asses and hacking people`s computers as always. Do they think they`ll eventually become ''good'' by fighting the bad guys if they ARE the bad guys themselves? Do they think that people will forgive them now? This is just funny nonsense. Lol.
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Postby New DeCapito » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:58 pm

Latlandia wrote:They just boast around about ""declaring war on ISIS", while what they actually do is sitting on their asses and hacking people`s computers as always. Do they think they`ll eventually become ''good'' by fighting the bad guys if they ARE the bad guys themselves? Do they think that people will forgive them now? This is just funny nonsense. Lol.

Forgive them for what? What noteworthy and particularly evil event have they caused that makes them the 'bad guys' in your eyes?
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Postby Latlandia » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:08 pm

New DeCapito wrote:
Latlandia wrote:They just boast around about ""declaring war on ISIS", while what they actually do is sitting on their asses and hacking people`s computers as always. Do they think they`ll eventually become ''good'' by fighting the bad guys if they ARE the bad guys themselves? Do they think that people will forgive them now? This is just funny nonsense. Lol.

Forgive them for what? What noteworthy and particularly evil event have they caused that makes them the 'bad guys' in your eyes?

Soo you think that illegally hacking people`s computers and stealing money in the internet is a good thing? I don`t think so.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:16 pm

One can't help but be impressed by the irony of people on the Internet complaining that Anonymous are just a bunch of people doing meaningless stuff on the Internet. :p

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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:19 pm

Keynsinia wrote:They're a bunch of left wing nerds who don't understand Guy Fawkes that want to dish out the bullying they were/are given in order to feel like they have some sort of power and control, when really, they are annoying.

Guy Fawkes's motives and actions aren't too important given that the inspiration for the Anonymous mask is from V for Vendetta, not the original source material.

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Postby Pope Joan » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:22 pm

Being opposed to the policies and practices of the state of Israel is not being anti Semitic. That argument has given far too great a leash to the Likud. Are the opposition parties in Israel anti Semitic then? Why not, since it seems to amount to the same thing?
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