Bloody Sunday; IRA and General Anglo/Irish Discussion Thread

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

This is going to end well.

It feels nice to open up such a large can of worms

[Ifreann]

You mean like the one they had in 1997?

And I take it you think the Scottish referendum should've been open to everyone on Great Britain then?

The Scottish referendum should only be open to Scottish people. So it was fine with me.

Let's just cut the shit. You want a referendum to be open to whatever demographics will vote your way. If polls showed a republican majority in the North but not over the whole island, you'd suddenly want any referendum to be held in the North only.

[Val Halla]

The Scottish referendum should only be open to Scottish people. So it was fine with me.

Let's just cut the shit. You want a referendum to be open to whatever demographics will vote your way. If polls showed a republican majority in the North but not over the whole island, you'd suddenly want any referendum to be held in the North only.

People will do anything to win really

[Vassenor]

You mean like the one they had in 1997?

And I take it you think the Scottish referendum should've been open to everyone on Great Britain then?

The Scottish referendum should only be open to Scottish people. So it was fine with me.

So why should people in the South be allowed to overrule what the people in the North want?

[The Nihilistic view]

The past should stay in the past. There are dark things on both sides not properly explored and I think to do so may threaten the peace process that is in reality still ongoing. Start the slate at 1998 and move on.

[New Benian Republic]

The Scottish referendum should only be open to Scottish people. So it was fine with me.

So why should people in the South be allowed to overrule what the people in the North want?

Because the people I the north identify as British not Irish, Ireland is Irish and must have its affairs handled only by Irish men and women.

[Cruithneach]

There should be two seperate referendums, one in RoI and one in NI. The RoI would vote on whether to accept NI if it was independent and NI would vote on if it wants to be independent, with the provision of 'only if RoI accepts us' and 'Yes, but not as part of RoI'
Only if they agree can we link the two.

[New Benian Republic]

The Scottish referendum should only be open to Scottish people. So it was fine with me.

Let's just cut the shit. You want a referendum to be open to whatever demographics will vote your way. If polls showed a republican majority in the North but not over the whole island, you'd suddenly want any referendum to be held in the North only.

Not really, if there was a republican majority in the north I would still want an all Ireland vote.

[Vassenor]

So why should people in the South be allowed to overrule what the people in the North want?

Because the people I the north identify as British not Irish, Ireland is Irish and must have its affairs handled only by Irish men and women.

Racial disenfranchisement.

[New Benian Republic]

Because the people I the north identify as British not Irish, Ireland is Irish and must have its affairs handled only by Irish men and women.

Racial disenfranchisement.

They aren't a different race, we're both white...

[Samnoreg]

Racial disenfranchisement.

They aren't a different race, we're both white...

Nationality then, but that shouldn't even matter. It's to my knowledge that the people in the North have been there for a considerable amount of time, and seeing as they are well established in the place they now call home, to disregard their say in the matter is rather silly considering.

[Ifreann]

Let's just cut the shit. You want a referendum to be open to whatever demographics will vote your way. If polls showed a republican majority in the North but not over the whole island, you'd suddenly want any referendum to be held in the North only.

Not really, if there was a republican majority in the north I would still want an all Ireland vote.

Somehow I find that hard to believe. It's probably all the ethnic cleansing stuff.

[Vassenor]

Not really, if there was a republican majority in the north I would still want an all Ireland vote.

Somehow I find that hard to believe. It's probably all the ethnic cleansing stuff.

Don't you mean "enforced paid vacation stuff"?

[Ifreann]

Somehow I find that hard to believe. It's probably all the ethnic cleansing stuff.

Don't you mean "enforced paid vacation stuff"?

How silly of me.

[New Benian Republic]

Don't you mean "enforced paid vacation stuff"?

How silly of me.

I couldn't care less.

[Vassenor]

How silly of me.

I couldn't care less.

Well you are the one who's been advocating for ethnic cleansing, so...

[Ifreann]

How silly of me.

I couldn't care less.

That certainly does seem to be the case, yes.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Oh look another Northern Ireland thread, this is going to be one lovely evening.

I cant wait till im told im oppressed again.

[Fartsniffage]

Oh look another Northern Ireland thread, this is going to be one lovely evening.

I cant wait till im told im oppressed again.

*gently squishes The Huskar Social Union under my boot heel*

[Napkiraly]

Oh look another Northern Ireland thread, this is going to be one lovely evening.

I cant wait till im told im oppressed again.

*oppresses you with biscuits, tea, and Doctor Who*

[Camelza]

Right to self-determination & Good Friday Agreement.
/thread.

[Kauthar]

Free Ireland! My great grandpa fought for the IRA in the 1920s and I'm proud to be part of his bloodline. One day the celtic nations will be liberated from France, Spain and the British Empire.

I couldn't care less.

Well you are the one who's been advocating for ethnic cleansing, so...

Didn't the British do that? It was called the potato "Famine"

The Scottish referendum should only be open to Scottish people. So it was fine with me.

So why should people in the South be allowed to overrule what the people in the North want?

Because the north is just an example of how colonialism still exists today - like Scotland, the Falklands, Hong Kong and The South.

[Vassenor]

Free Ireland! My great grandpa fought for the IRA in the 1920s and I'm proud to be part of his bloodline. One day the celtic nations will be liberated from France, Spain and the British Empire.

Well you are the one who's been advocating for ethnic cleansing, so...

Didn't the British do that? It was called the potato "Famine"

So why should people in the South be allowed to overrule what the people in the North want?

Because the north is just an example of how colonialism still exists today - like Scotland, the Falklands, Hong Kong and The South.

...So apparently the fact that Hong Kong went back to China two decades ago doesn't count.

[Cruithneach]

Oh look another Northern Ireland thread, this is going to be one lovely evening.

I cant wait till im told im oppressed again.

*oppresses you with biscuits, tea, and Doctor Who*

Oppresses you with haggis, bagpipes and kilts

[Camelza]

Free Ireland! My great grandpa fought for the IRA in the 1920s and I'm proud to be part of his bloodline. One day the celtic nations will be liberated from France, Spain and the British Empire.

I will not point and laught at the ridiculous first part of your statement, I'll just proclaim some of your faults.
-There's no official Celtic nation in Spain(One recognised by the Celtic League) and if we excempt Brittany which has no way to advocate for self-determination, the rest of the nations you have mentioned are not being oppressed, they're simply part of Britain (Scotland's referendum proves this, in example).

And don't get me started on the Falklands.