Russia Funding Far-Right Parties in Europe

[TheDrunkenLlamas]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 18236.html

TLDR: The US is investigating claims that Russia is funding various far-right parties in Europe in order to destabilize NATO. Parties that are thought to be involved include France's National Front, Hungary's Jobbik party and the Golden Dawn in Greece.


Personally, this shit doesn't surprise me. Putin has long been known as a rather brazen geopolitical manipulator. This is fitting well within Russia's current modus operandi. What does surprise me though is that he is doing this outside his 'sphere of influence' I guess Crimea has made him cocky.

[Slakonian]

Yeah, I heard aliens are involved too. Golden Dawn ain't funded by no one beisdes it's party members and politicians due the government keeping them a close eye.

[Mahdistan]

It's no secret that Russia and the National Front in France share a relationship of mutual benefit, and their candidate is openly pro-Putin. It wouldn't entirely surprise me to see PEGIDA and their like being funded by the Russian government, as they have made declarations of support in their direction. Golden Dawn, however, I feel unlikely. Greece and Russia are, compared to other European nations, on relatively good terms; too good of terms that I think Russia wouldn't attempt to jeopardize (or waste the money on) trying to destabilize it.

[Republic of the Cristo]

This is to say that America does not do the same in Russia or its allies? We should not be surprised, but we should not be so close minded about our own governments actions.

[Unnamed island state]

Oh this is great. I hope it finally kills off the left demographic that Putin has been trying to woo with Globalresearch and RT.

[Republic of the Cristo]

And really, the evidence provided for such a claim is " shaky" at best. So, lets not draw too many conclusions.

[Saiwania]

If this is true, Russia's actions are heroic!
Now if only their funding would net some actual results in terms of right wing victories. It is crucial that the right wins if there is to be a traditional and Christian Europe with trappings of secularism instead of becoming a Eurabia.

[Vassenor]

I find it ironic that Russia would be funding fascist parties considering what fascists did to them during the GPW.

[Republic of the Cristo]

I find it ironic that Russia would be funding fascist parties considering what fascists did to them during the GPW.

I would not consider the northern league fascist

[Baltenstein]

If this is true, Russia's actions are heroic!
Now if only their funding would net some actual results in terms of right wing victories. It is crucial that the right wins if there is to be a traditional and Christian Europe with trappings of secularism instead of becoming a Eurabia.

It would make Russia's claim of being of stronk defense against Ukraine Bandero-Fascist slightly hypocritical though.
Not that the Russian government isn't being hypocritical already.

[Italios]

If this is true, Russia's actions are heroic!
Now if only their funding would net some actual results in terms of right wing victories. It is crucial that the right wins if there is to be a traditional and Christian Europe with trappings of secularism instead of becoming a Eurabia.

....Ah, yes. The results of some truly heroic actions.

[Vassenor]

Can we just declare "Eurabia" to be a dogwhistle at this point?

[Susria]

This is to say that America does not do the same in Russia or its allies? We should not be surprised, but we should not be so close minded about our own governments actions.

I like this.

[Mahdistan]

Oh this is great. I hope it finally kills off the left demographic that Putin has been trying to woo with Globalresearch and RT.

RT is centrist at best, and more accurately center-right. Global Research is independently owned, and only takes a relative pro-Russian bias.

[Arana]

I find it ironic that Russia would be funding fascist parties considering what fascists did to them during the GPW.

I would not consider the northern league fascist

...isn't the GPW their name for WWII?

[Susria]

I find it ironic that Russia would be funding fascist parties considering what fascists did to them during the GPW.

Far right =\= fascist.

Far right could mean republicanism, nationalism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, all within a capitalist or communist model.

Fascism is implying an authoritarian government built around a third-position state with a particular ego cult around one leader.

The parties reportedly being funded are almost all simply conservative and nationalistic with tendencies for capitalism, and at their most extreme a form of totalitarianism.

[Ifreann]

Can we just declare "Eurabia" to be a dogwhistle at this point?

I don't think it counts as a dogwhistle when it's not even a little coded, just blatant wanting Muslims out of Europe.

[Greater Mackonia]

Good. And on what grounds may the United States claim to "investigate" this? As if receiving funds from a like-minded party is somehow a criminal offense these days?

[Susria]

Can we just declare "Eurabia" to be a dogwhistle at this point?

Don't see what this has to do with anything else here.

[Susria]

Good. And on what grounds may the United States claim to "investigate" this? As if receiving funds from a like-minded party is somehow a criminal offense these days?

The United States opinions should end at their own borders.

Notice how this isn't the case?

[Arana]

Good. And on what grounds may the United States claim to "investigate" this? As if receiving funds from a like-minded party is somehow a criminal offense these days?

Actually, in the US, receiving money from a like-minded party from another country is a criminal offense. I don't know if it's the same in other nations, but it is here.

[Ifreann]

Good. And on what grounds may the United States claim to "investigate" this? As if receiving funds from a like-minded party is somehow a criminal offense these days?

The United States opinions should end at their own borders.

But Russia can fund political parties in foreign nations all the live-long day.

[Greater Mackonia]

Good. And on what grounds may the United States claim to "investigate" this? As if receiving funds from a like-minded party is somehow a criminal offense these days?

The United States opinions should end at their own borders.

Notice how this isn't the case?

No, its not. And of course when Putin quite rightly clamps down on DeMats undermining the Russian state its all "tyranneh! waaaaaaaaaah!"

Not, please note, that I expect anything different, from the American perspective this is all perfectly rational.

[Uxupox]

Oh this is great. I hope it finally kills off the left demographic that Putin has been trying to woo with Globalresearch and RT.

RT is centrist at best, and more accurately center-right. Global Research is independently owned, and only takes a relative pro-Russian bias.

RT is by no means centrist. Hell I do even know what ideology they are.

[Bulgar Rouge]

Well...I guess that's still better than NATO members arming Al-Qaeda franchises.