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by Korlsan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:55 pm
by Australian rePublic » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:46 pm
by The Republic of Exclamation » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:52 pm
Bill Cosby Island wrote:...roofies have more substance than this thread.
by Meryuma » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:03 pm
Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.
Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."
Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.
Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.
Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...
*puts on sunglasses*
blow out of proportions."
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
by Australian rePublic » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:06 pm
Meryuma wrote:Australian Republic wrote:I am aware of this, but why the hell would change the whole system for one language?
There is no system being changed. Singular they is already standard colloquial usage. I hear it all the time. It's been used for hundreds of years (seriously!) and iirc is in many dictionaries.
by United Earthlings » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:11 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:My personal issue with ''it'' is that its dehumanising
it suggests that people and humans are no different from animals or objects (such as tables and chairs); when in fact, our status as the master race of the planet is indisputable
Conscentia wrote:As someone pointed out earlier, personal pronouns cannot properly be replaced by indefinite pronouns as they serve a different function.
The proper English gender neutral third person singular pronoun is 'they'. As I explained earlier, the singular 'they' has both precedent and popularity...
Infected Mushroom wrote:I feel like there's definitely a link between reinforcing gender labels and the gendering of nouns and pronouns in many languages. Humanity has always had an unhealthy obsession with labelling things and reinforcing irrational labels; this must be combatted.
by Sinhapura » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:56 pm
United Earthlings wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:our status as the master race of the planet is indisputable
P.S. It's only indisputable until nature decrees otherwise. Live through any natural disaster and see your thinking evolve. Also, be thankful a giant asteroid hasn't smacked the planet again, as were due for one.
by Australian rePublic » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:27 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:United Earthlings wrote:
As others have stated, you’re merely moving from personal pronouns to what's known as Indefinite Pronouns which are nouns that does not refer to a specific person or thing. In your example above the sentence would be changed to with various examples....
"Anybody who steals..."
"Anyone who steals..."
"Someone who steals..."
"Any individual who steals a cookie is a fool. Anyone would have broken the law.", etc...
If you wish a neuter gender personal pronoun, than it it is.
From the wiki: "Some people propose using "it" in a wider sense in all the situations where a gender-neutral pronoun might be desired. The advantage of using an existing word is that the language does not have to change as much. The disadvantage is the possibility of causing offense. This usage of it is currently very rare, and most commentators feel that it is unlikely to catch on.”
Trust me when I say, given human behavior people would start using it more before adapting some new word.
Then again, you can always shorten he/she to S(He) until the appropriate gender tense is known which from observations should be fine for the vast majority of likely situations and encounters.
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My personal issue with ''it'' is that its dehumanising
it suggests that people and humans are no different from animals or objects (such as tables and chairs); when in fact, our status as the master race of the planet is indisputable
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