He/She... or the One?

[The Nihilistic view]

I'm Australian we already have the most flexible pronoun ever. Cunt.

I propose the rest of the world follows our lead and uses this magnificent word.

I'll support this choice of pronoun.

But it's demeaning to women, SJWs won't stand for that!

[The Two Jerseys]

I'll support this choice of pronoun.

But it's demeaning to women, SJWs won't stand for that!

Asshole.

Everybody has an asshole, so nobody can be offended!

[Nocturnalis]

"We were on the thief's tail, but we lost one."
"Whoever one was, one won't be coming back for one's umbrella."

"We were on the thief's tail, but we lost them."
"Whoever they were, they won't be coming back for their umbrella."

Fixed.
English is not that difficult.
New pronouns aren't needed.

[The Lone Alliance]

But it's demeaning to women, SJWs won't stand for that!

I already offend the chronically offended enough as it is.

[Alvecia]

I think the biggest problem we run into here is trying to make the English language make sense. It's just not supposed to, maybe we should just let it be it.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Chill your tits, OP. "They" works fine for these purposes.

[Val Halla]

Chill your tits, OP. "They" works fine for these purposes.

I don't know any non binary person who is against they

[Ifreann]

Chill your tits, OP. "They" works fine for these purposes.

No, but, but, SJWs!

[Val Halla]

Chill your tits, OP. "They" works fine for these purposes.

No, but, but, SJWs!

Smiling jelly wobblers?

[Hladgos]

I just use dawg, cat, guy, dude, fool, and other nonprofessional terms to describe people. Why can't we do that? I mean, it pimps out our language, fool.

[Ifreann]

No, but, but, SJWs!

Smiling jelly wobblers?

Yes!

[Australian rePublic]

No, this is an English language-centric solution to a non-existant problem.
1. The vast, vast majrority of people on Earth choose one gender to assosiate with, be it their birth sex or otherwise. There is no practicle benefit of re-training the world's population who speak English as a first, second, third, etc. language, across the hundreds, if not thousands, of dialects, to solve a minor issue. Let alone this fate being completely impossible to achieve, even for a reasonable percentage of the demographic
2. Very few nations recognise non-traditional sexes and genders. Wouldn't a bigger priority be to get them to change their attitudes toward the matter, you know, before mking minor changes to a language w is spoken in nations that already have?
3. This solution is so English-language centric
Other langauges require binary gender in order to work. For example, Greek is one of them.
Example:
The short man
The short woman
In both sentances, "the" and "short" are COMPLETELY differnet words, because there is a seperate word for "the" refering to males and females, and a seperate ending for adjectives for males and for females
Another examples:
The man is educated
The woman is educated
There are two different words for "the" used for both sentances
There are two different words for "educated" used for both sentances
These differences are there because of the structure of the Greek language dictating different words for males and different words for females.
This doesn't just apply to people and animals, it also applies to inatimate objects.
For example, coffee is masculine, whilst chair is femanine
I will therefore put the words in red that are different in both sentances-completely different words, simply because one is male and the other female:
This coffee is terrible
This chair is terrible
The endings of the words for coffee and for chair are also different, simply because one is male and the other is female. All male words share a common ending, and all female words share a common ending.
Greek, however, has a gender-neutral tense.
However, many languages follow the same gender structure as Greek, and many of those languages do not have Gender-neutral equivilant. Hebrew is one of them.
Therefore everything is either a male or female in many languages like Hebrew.
Whilst it's easy to create a new pronoun for English, that only solves the "problem" in one language. In order for some other languages to solve this problem, it would require from them a massive restructuring. There is no point in solving a universal "problem" with language if the solution is only going to work in one language. What ever problem your claiming this solves, the problem would still exist amongst many, many people who do not speak English as a first language, and even more so for people who don't speak English at all. I know that the English is the world's foremost language, but that doesn't change the situation refering too other languages

[New Benian Republic]

I'll call them by what my context clues tell me, like voice, sometimes clothing and hairstyle. So I don't think its discriminatory as long as you aren't doing it to be rude and what not.

[Frenline Delpha]

Which is why I think we need to push back harder. Rather than just playing by their rules and using ''they,'' we should introduce a new pronoun and reinforce it upon the population.

This is where you lose me. I mean, I'm not on your side in the first place, but when you talk about forcing a cerain way of mind onto everybody, no matter what they believe, then you are falling down a slippery ice slope.

[Hladgos]

Which is why I think we need to push back harder. Rather than just playing by their rules and using ''they,'' we should introduce a new pronoun and reinforce it upon the population.

This is where you lose me. I mean, I'm not on your side in the first place, but when you talk about forcing a cerain way of mind onto everybody, no matter what they believe, then you are falling down a slippery ice slope.

That's a logical fallacy!

[Nerotysia]

Man Infected Mushroom's been infected by Chessmistress. What were the odds?

[Frenline Delpha]

Man Infected Mushroom's been infected by Chessmistress. What were the odds?

I'd say they were pretty good. Personally, I will continue to use he as a gender nuetral term. To me, when used towards an anonymous person, he means human in genral.

[Charmera]

Man Infected Mushroom's been infected by Chessmistress. What were the odds?

I'd say they were pretty good. Personally, I will continue to use he as a gender nuetral term. To me, when used towards an anonymous person, he means human in genral.

You could always alternate too.
By which I mean, use he for one nonspecific person and then she for the next you happen to talk about. If anyone calls you out on not representing the other gender, simply cite the example you used he instead of she or vise versa.

[Frenline Delpha]

I'd say they were pretty good. Personally, I will continue to use he as a gender nuetral term. To me, when used towards an anonymous person, he means human in genral.

You could always alternate too.
By which I mean, use he for one nonspecific person and then she for the next you happen to talk about. If anyone calls you out on not representing the other gender, simply cite the example you used he instead of she or vise versa.

That actually makes sense. I might just do that.

[Charmera]

You could always alternate too.
By which I mean, use he for one nonspecific person and then she for the next you happen to talk about. If anyone calls you out on not representing the other gender, simply cite the example you used he instead of she or vise versa.

That actually makes sense. I might just do that.

Indeed. No need for new pronouns. Just creatively use the ones you have. *nods*

[Hirota]

Zathras says not the one.

High five for anyone who gets that reference.

[Kar-Esseria]

For a minute I thought this was a Chessmistress thread.

[Ifreann]

For a minute I thought this was a Chessmistress thread.

Why?

[Frenline Delpha]

That's why we need to establish a Language Police.

it may well prove necessary

Your just proving my point. Whenever you make a reasonable statement, you turn it sadistic and oppressive.

[Nerotysia]

it may well prove necessary

Your just proving my point. Whenever you make a reasonable statement, you turn it sadistic and oppressive.

But being sadistic is so much fun.