Should LGBT adoption be allowed?

[The Alexanderians]

What teh actual fuck kind of solution is that? That's the kind of crap they do to animals. Why would you ever suggest that for a child?!

Poe's Law...

I like to assume people are being serious.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Poe's Law...

I like to assume people are being serious.

Remember what Poe's Law means, love.

[The Alexanderians]

I like to assume people are being serious.

Remember what Poe's Law means, love.

That parodies or trolling can look very much like a serious extreme view.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Remember what Poe's Law means, love.

That parodies or trolling can look very much like a serious extreme view.

Yup. Just laugh.

[Thermodolia]

Yes duh! I'd love to adopt and have a family. I'm just worried that I'll be an abusive parent.

[Colai]

Remember what Poe's Law means, love.

That parodies or trolling can look very much like a serious extreme view.

I can assure you I was being completely serious. I am a supporter of antisexualism and antinatalism, which may help explain to you my viewpoints. You can be rest assured that my kind is in a very much small minority, unfortunately for me of course.

[Niketa]

That parodies or trolling can look very much like a serious extreme view.

I can assure you I was being completely serious. I am a supporter of antisexualism and antinatalism, which may help explain to you my viewpoints. You can be rest assured that my kind is in a very much small minority, unfortunately for me of course.

Please don't go killing kids that don't live in ideal homes.

[Thermodolia]

I can assure you I was being completely serious. I am a supporter of antisexualism and antinatalism, which may help explain to you my viewpoints. You can be rest assured that my kind is in a very much small minority, unfortunately for me of course.

Please don't go killing kids that don't live in ideal homes.

Ya I kinda like that I'm alive.

[Reploid Productions]

So children should not be adopted (since most people are sexual, and especially most couples are sexual) and instead left in a foster care system that instead has some pretty shitty results. Good to know.

In the case of no substitute for a chaste parent, euthanasia should be considered to prevent putting the child through any hardship or pain.

Given the history on your other nation, we can skip straight to *** 1-day ban for advocating murder of foster children and/or orphans. *** I suggest you review the site rules before proceeding.


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~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[Niketa]

In the case of no substitute for a chaste parent, euthanasia should be considered to prevent putting the child through any hardship or pain.

Given the history on your other nation, we can skip straight to *** 1-day ban for advocating murder of foster children and/or orphans. *** I suggest you review the site rules before proceeding.


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

Holy snot that was awesome

[Godular]

Given the history on your other nation, we can skip straight to *** 1-day ban for advocating murder of foster children and/or orphans. *** I suggest you review the site rules before proceeding.


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

Holy snot that was awesome

Careful, gloating bad.

[Niketa]

Holy snot that was awesome

Careful, gloating bad.

You're right, it's just been a while since I've seen a mod in action.

[The Rich Port]

Well, that's the thing, innit?

Why is this even a point that should be made?

The fact of the matter is, a point is being made only to those that oppose such a thing.

I highly doubt parents care. The government shouldn't, either.

And the religious shouldn't, either.

But if we made a list of all of the things the religious shouldn't do but do anyway, even when their religion says it shouldn't be done, we'd be here for a long time.

So you're saying nobody should care about the future of a child when it gets adopted? That's disturbing.

... You're the one that's "worried" about something that is going to affect children regardless of their parents' sexual orientation, and has NOTHING to do with by whom they're adopted, RATHER than whether the people adopting them are GOOD PARENTS.

Your entire fucking argument is buried in moronic hypocrisy and ideological cowardice. Your "worry" is fucking almost non-existent and hypocritical.

Their bullies could be surprisingly progressive and bully the kid for needing glasses. Or for being a Jew. Or for being a Catholic, a Protestant, or an atheist. Or for having fucking brown hair in a school where everybody dyes their hair blonde.

Children and teenagers have been driven to suicide over more idiotic things.

[Ethel mermania]

as long as the gay couple are married I am fine with it.

full disclosure: I don't believe any single people should be allowed to adopt.

[Marethian Lupanar of Teladre]

If they have ways of sustaining/keeping/raising a child, I think anyone should be able to.

It'd be unreasonable to have a sterile person not interested in marriage or having a partner unable to raise a kid as their adopted child.

[New confederate ramenia]

as long as the gay couple are married I am fine with it.

full disclosure: I don't believe any single people should be allowed to adopt.

Why shouldn't single people be allowed to adopt?

[Tafhan]

Yes. No good reason it shouldn't.

[Ethel mermania]

as long as the gay couple are married I am fine with it.

full disclosure: I don't believe any single people should be allowed to adopt.

Why shouldn't single people be allowed to adopt?

I don't think its in the best interests of the child

[The Alexanderians]

Why shouldn't single people be allowed to adopt?

I don't think its in the best interests of the child

Why not?

[The Rich Port]

as long as the gay couple are married I am fine with it.

full disclosure: I don't believe any single people should be allowed to adopt.

You have a bit of a point, and they often aren't allowed to adopt...

Though them being single or non-married has nothing to do with their sexual orientation.

The only thing impeding single parents from adopting usually is whether they're able to dedicate attention to children, limited only by how financially secure they are.

If they are, there's really no reason unless there's possible neglect involved due to the single parent's amount of hours working.

And even then... Ironically enough, there's plenty of people in the U.S. who hold traditional values on parenthood. Single fathers, for example, were more likely to get custody and maintain custody of their children. Today, it's the reverse, ever since child support entered law. Some parents used to think showing your children that you love them was tantamount to weakness or a lack of emotional discipline... In fact, some of them still think that and some people don't consider it abuse.

Authoritarian parents, they're called in psychology. And sure, some of them may not be totally cold and dictatorial over their children, but it's easily not the best way to parent, even compared to permissive parents. At least children with permissive parents get to enjoy themselves. Excessively, but at least more than not at all.

Rebellion among the authoritarian are often high, but in cases where there isn't, it's because the children are terrified of their parent/s. Contrary to popular belief, your children fearing you isn't better than them not loving you... Though, if you're kind to them, I don't see how that's logically possible.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Of course. There's no argument against it that doesn't appeal to theocracy or pseudoscience.

[Thermodolia]

as long as the gay couple are married I am fine with it.

full disclosure: I don't believe any single people should be allowed to adopt.

You have a bit of a point, and they often aren't allowed to adopt...

Though them being single or non-married has nothing to do with their sexual orientation.

The only thing impeding single parents from adopting usually is whether they're able to dedicate attention to children, limited only by how financially secure they are.

If they are, there's really no reason unless there's possible neglect involved due to the single parent's amount of hours working.

And even then... Ironically enough, there's plenty of people in the U.S. who hold traditional values on parenthood. Single fathers, for example, were more likely to get custody and maintain custody of their children. Today, it's the reverse, ever since child support entered law. Some parents used to think showing your children that you love them was tantamount to weakness or a lack of emotional discipline... In fact, some of them still think that and some people don't consider it abuse.

Authoritarian parents, they're called in psychology. And sure, some of them may not be totally cold and dictatorial over their children, but it's easily not the best way to parent, even compared to permissive parents. At least children with permissive parents get to enjoy themselves. Excessively, but at least more than not at all.

Rebellion among the authoritarian are often high, but in cases where there isn't, it's because the children are terrified of their parent/s. Contrary to popular belief, your children fearing you isn't better than them not loving you... Though, if you're kind to them, I don't see how that's logically possible.

Wow.. That describes my father in a nutshell. That's scary.

[The Rich Port]

You have a bit of a point, and they often aren't allowed to adopt...

Though them being single or non-married has nothing to do with their sexual orientation.

The only thing impeding single parents from adopting usually is whether they're able to dedicate attention to children, limited only by how financially secure they are.

If they are, there's really no reason unless there's possible neglect involved due to the single parent's amount of hours working.

And even then... Ironically enough, there's plenty of people in the U.S. who hold traditional values on parenthood. Single fathers, for example, were more likely to get custody and maintain custody of their children. Today, it's the reverse, ever since child support entered law. Some parents used to think showing your children that you love them was tantamount to weakness or a lack of emotional discipline... In fact, some of them still think that and some people don't consider it abuse.

Authoritarian parents, they're called in psychology. And sure, some of them may not be totally cold and dictatorial over their children, but it's easily not the best way to parent, even compared to permissive parents. At least children with permissive parents get to enjoy themselves. Excessively, but at least more than not at all.

Rebellion among the authoritarian are often high, but in cases where there isn't, it's because the children are terrified of their parent/s. Contrary to popular belief, your children fearing you isn't better than them not loving you... Though, if you're kind to them, I don't see how that's logically possible.

Wow.. That describes my father in a nutshell. That's scary.

Psychology often speaks in generalities for a reason.

Not everybody fits perfectly, but a lot of people do.

Psychology isn't an exact science, but that's because it's specialization isn't exact either.

[USS Monitor]

You have a bit of a point, and they often aren't allowed to adopt...

Though them being single or non-married has nothing to do with their sexual orientation.

The only thing impeding single parents from adopting usually is whether they're able to dedicate attention to children, limited only by how financially secure they are.

If they are, there's really no reason unless there's possible neglect involved due to the single parent's amount of hours working.

And even then... Ironically enough, there's plenty of people in the U.S. who hold traditional values on parenthood. Single fathers, for example, were more likely to get custody and maintain custody of their children. Today, it's the reverse, ever since child support entered law. Some parents used to think showing your children that you love them was tantamount to weakness or a lack of emotional discipline... In fact, some of them still think that and some people don't consider it abuse.

Authoritarian parents, they're called in psychology. And sure, some of them may not be totally cold and dictatorial over their children, but it's easily not the best way to parent, even compared to permissive parents. At least children with permissive parents get to enjoy themselves. Excessively, but at least more than not at all.

Rebellion among the authoritarian are often high, but in cases where there isn't, it's because the children are terrified of their parent/s. Contrary to popular belief, your children fearing you isn't better than them not loving you... Though, if you're kind to them, I don't see how that's logically possible.

Wow.. That describes my father in a nutshell. That's scary.

I've seen parents who were like that, and I'll never understand why they think it's a good idea.

[Thermodolia]

Wow.. That describes my father in a nutshell. That's scary.

Psychology often speaks in generalities for a reason.

Not everybody fits perfectly, but a lot of people do.

Psychology isn't an exact science, but that's because it's specialization isn't exact either.

But what you said about authoritarian parents is my father exactly, and I'm pretty sure he was abuvise as well. Which is a major reason on why I'm scared to be a parent because I'm worried that I'll be like him.