Left-Wing Discussion Thread

[Northern Davincia]

Challenge accepted, it'll have to wait until after work though.
Also please don't spam.

Ok I looked at the title of the first video and
1. I'm not a liberal.
2. I don't like your constitution.
3. I'm still on the left. Not impressed so far but ill watch them anyway.

Taking the bait so soon, eh? You know he can't differentiate liberal and left-wing.

[The balkens]

Challenge accepted, it'll have to wait until after work though.
Also please don't spam.

Ok I looked at the title of the first video and
1. I'm not a liberal.
2. I don't like your constitution.
3. I'm still on the left. Not impressed so far but ill watch them anyway.

Cant really do anything about it.

[Conscentia]

Are you? You want us to make a sincere effort to understand the political right, yet you're don't seem to be reciprocating by making an effort to understand the left. Instead you're dismissing the claims of other posters as 'jokes'. I wouldn't call that participating in discussion, so much as obstructing it. Perhaps instead you should ask why they believe what they do? Or explain why you do not agree?

oh I understand the left trust me I do.

I really doubt you understand the left better than those who belong to it do. Your posts make me doubt that you understand the left at all. You have given me no reason to trust you.

[The Grene Knyght]

Ok I looked at the title of the first video and
1. I'm not a liberal.
2. I don't like your constitution.
3. I'm still on the left. Not impressed so far but ill watch them anyway.

Cant really do anything about it.

I know. That doesn't mean I have to like it. And that doesn't mean that because some liberals don't like it I should disown the left.

[The newfound islands]

Cant really do anything about it.

I know. That doesn't mean I have to like it. And that doesn't mean that because some liberals don't like it I should disown the left.

I have a question why do you not like our Constitution

[Northern Davincia]

I know. That doesn't mean I have to like it. And that doesn't mean that because some liberals don't like it I should disown the left.

I have a question why do you not like our Constitution

A leftist might not like the constitution because they disagree with state rights. And the state in general.

[The newfound islands]

I have a question why do you not like our Constitution

A leftist might not like the constitution because they disagree with state rights. And the state in general.

I know and the liberals also think that the government should dictate what we do oh but that's somehow freedom oh yes sir let's have the government tell me what to eat,who to marry,who to vote for and everything else oh yes that's freedom alright.

[Conscentia]

A leftist might not like the constitution because they disagree with state rights. And the state in general.

I know and the liberals also think that the government should dictate what we do oh but that's somehow freedom oh yes sir let's have the government tell me what to eat,who to marry,who to vote for and everything else oh yes that's freedom alright.

Someone who objects "to the state in general" would not want the government dictating what we do as that would require a state.

[The newfound islands]

I know and the liberals also think that the government should dictate what we do oh but that's somehow freedom oh yes sir let's have the government tell me what to eat,who to marry,who to vote for and everything else oh yes that's freedom alright.

Someone who objects "to the state in general" would not want the government dictating what we do as that would require a state.

the state is not the government what the hell are you even talking about.

[Conscentia]

Someone who objects "to the state in general" would not want the government dictating what we do as that would require a state.

the state is not the government what the hell are you even talking about.

How would the government dictate what we do to the totalitarian degree described in your post without a state to enforce it's dictates?

[The Grene Knyght]

A leftist might not like the constitution because they disagree with state rights. And the state in general.

I know and the liberals also think that the government should dictate what we do oh but that's somehow freedom oh yes sir let's have the government tell me what to eat,who to marry,who to vote for and everything else oh yes that's freedom alright.

Someone who objects "to the state in general" would not want the government dictating what we do as that would require a state.

the state is not the government what the hell are you even talking about.

Please stop omg is this a parody account? I can't take any more

[Lynerida]

A leftist might not like the constitution because they disagree with state rights. And the state in general.

I know and the liberals also think that the government should dictate what we do oh but that's somehow freedom oh yes sir let's have the government tell me what to eat,who to marry,who to vote for and everything else oh yes that's freedom alright.

1. Liberals say government has a right to regulate what a business sells to you for consumption. Not the other way around, although I'm sure re-writing our arguments in your own dumbed down way makes it easier for you to argue against it.

2. Conservatives are the ones who say only a man and woman can marry. Liberals say any consenting adult should have the right to marry. If your argument is that Liberals force government officials to marry gay couples then I would argue that that in itself is discriminatory.

3. When has the government forced people to vote for someone they didn't want to vote for? This isn't Iran. Get over yourself.

[The Grene Knyght]

Sooooo anyway. How about that leftism.... Pretty sweet, right?

[Conscentia]

Sooooo anyway. How about that leftism.... Pretty sweet, right?

That sweetness would be the fruits of your labour which the capitalists withheld from you.

[Vashty]

Sooooo anyway. How about that leftism.... Pretty sweet, right?

it ain't bad

[Northern Davincia]

Sooooo anyway. How about that leftism.... Pretty sweet, right?

That sweetness would be the fruits of your labour which the capitalists withheld from you.

And I would've gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling leftists!

[The Grene Knyght]

That sweetness would be the fruits of your labour which the capitalists withheld from you.

And I would've gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling leftists!

Who would've thought that Northern Davincia was the capitialists all along.
Jinkies!

[Northern Davincia]

And I would've gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling leftists!

Who would've thought that Northern Davincia was the capitialists all along.
Jinkies!

Does this mean that Jeremy Corbyn can be the talking dog?

[Kubra]

In case any of you care for this sort of thing
http://chuangcn.org/journal/one/sorghum-and-steel/
A very informative work on the development of the Chinese socialist and capitalist mechanisms from the Ming dynasty up to the present from a communist perspective
Very even handed tho, a right winger could even learn from this

[Bakery Hill]

Maybe a little bit of a stereotype there haha?

In what way is she wrong?

Implying that most socialists are arts degree uni students for starters? The people in the orgs I work with are mostly unionists.

[Kubra]

In what way is she wrong?

Implying that most socialists are arts degree uni students for starters? The people in the orgs I work with are mostly unionists.

for the little bit I was affiliated with the IWW they were all blue collar and I was the only student
I mean, a few had arts degrees, but for employment it was working their hands

[Conscentia]

That makes me sad.

Well, I mean, Socialism is impossible in today's environment. Simply is not feasible in the culture we live in right now.

How so? Co-operatives seem as feasible today as they ever were, they're more resilient than private businesses, and I suspect there are more co-ops in existence right now than at any other point in history. Given that co-ops are a socialist business model, it sure looks like socialism is feasible.

[Yorkers]

they're more resilient than private businesses

Convince me, as an investor, to put my money into a collective.

[The Grene Knyght]

they're more resilient than private businesses

Convince me, as an investor, to put my money into a collective.

I think you're missing the point, a bit.

[Kubra]

they're more resilient than private businesses

Convince me, as an investor, to put my money into a collective.

it makes money