Right-Wing Discussion Thread

[Jochistan]

Personally I never get why people are more scared of the "threat" of Arabs than they are, say, Slavs. A Syrian Germany is preferable to a Polish one.

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You don't hate Slavs do you?

[Conscentia]

Personally I never get why people are more scared of the "threat" of Arabs than they are, say, Slavs. A Syrian Germany is preferable to a Polish one.

How so?

[Jochistan]

From what I understand, "Multiculturalism" means lack of integration encouraged and everyone being allowed to keep every aspect of their culture when they go to another culture.

That's unacceptable. Anywhere in the world.

No, that's not what it means. Multiculturalism is simply the existence of multiple cultures in a country.

Well, "multiple cultures" need to find common ground and integrate. Certain cultural practices must be left behind for unity with the home culture. Or blended together in North Americas case.

[Zoice]

From what I understand, "Multiculturalism" means lack of integration encouraged and everyone being allowed to keep every aspect of their culture when they go to another culture.

That's unacceptable. Anywhere in the world.

No, that's not what it means. Multiculturalism is simply the existence of multiple cultures in a country.

My understanding of it here in Canada (or, the interpretation of it that I support) is that people of different ethnic, religious, cultural, national etc. backgrounds can live together and coexist. That doesn't mean that each culture gets to live by its own rules, or that each non-English culture get's its own ghetto, it's supposed to mean that everyone mingles integrates and coexists without fear of discrimination.

[The Grey Wolf]

Personally I never get why people are more scared of the "threat" of Arabs than they are, say, Slavs. A Syrian Germany is preferable to a Polish one.

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You don't hate Slavs do you?

I view them largely as barbarians who should never be accepted into Western countries unless they renounce their culture.

[MERIZoC]

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You don't hate Slavs do you?

I view them largely as barbarians who should never be accepted into Western countries unless they renounce their culture.

Oh dear.

[Conscentia]

No, that's not what it means. Multiculturalism is simply the existence of multiple cultures in a country.

Well, "multiple cultures" need to find common ground and integrate. Certain cultural practices must be left behind for unity with the home culture. Or blended together in North Americas case.

Would you advocate for a single global culture?

[Conscentia]

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You don't hate Slavs do you?

I view them largely as barbarians who should never be accepted into Western countries unless they renounce their culture.

Why?

[Jochistan]

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You don't hate Slavs do you?

I view them largely as barbarians who should never be accepted into Western countries unless they renounce their culture.

Yeah, well
Slavs aren't exactly united by culture so much as to be painted with such a large brush like that.

Sure, Serbs, Ukrainians and a few others have an increasingly nazi-like mentality spreading through their cultures. But that's definitely not true for all Slavs.

[Jochistan]

Well, "multiple cultures" need to find common ground and integrate. Certain cultural practices must be left behind for unity with the home culture. Or blended together in North Americas case.

Would you advocate for a single global culture?

No.

[Conscentia]

Would you advocate for a single global culture?

No.

Why not?

[Jochistan]

No.

Why not?

Because it's not possible and it results in erosion and disruption of certain cultures.

[Conscentia]

Why not?

Because it's not possible and it results in erosion and disruption of certain cultures.

That argument is applicable to smaller scale jurisdictions.

[Dinake]

Personally I never get why people are more scared of the "threat" of Arabs than they are, say, Slavs. A Syrian Germany is preferable to a Polish one.

I'd rather a Polish Germany than a Syrian one. Admittedly that's just religious bigotry, though.
What's wrong with Poles?

[Jochistan]

Because it's not possible and it results in erosion and disruption of certain cultures.

That argument is applicable to smaller scale jurisdictions.

If the right policies of anti integration and anti unity are pursued.

[Dinake]

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You don't hate Slavs do you?

I view them largely as barbarians who should never be accepted into Western countries unless they renounce their culture.

West Slavs are great. East Slavs and South Slavs are also fine, but most of them need to convert.
I don't see what's wrong with them. Most countries could learn a thing or two from Poland.

[Conscentia]

That argument is applicable to smaller scale jurisdictions.

If the right policies of anti integration and anti unity are pursued.

How would policies of anti-integration and anti-unity in a jurisdiction smaller than the whole of Earth result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures"?

[Geilinor]

No, that's not what it means. Multiculturalism is simply the existence of multiple cultures in a country.

Well, "multiple cultures" need to find common ground and integrate. Certain cultural practices must be left behind for unity with the home culture. Or blended together in North Americas case.

Integration and multiculturalism are not incompatible.

[Jochistan]

If the right policies of anti integration and anti unity are pursued.

How would policies of anti-integration and anti-unity in a jurisdiction smaller than the whole of Earth result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures"?

In that they would cause disunity in one nation. Which would lead to culture eroding conflict and attitudes.

[Jochistan]

Well, "multiple cultures" need to find common ground and integrate. Certain cultural practices must be left behind for unity with the home culture. Or blended together in North Americas case.

Integration and multiculturalism are not incompatible.

That's what I thiught too, but apparently when people say multiculturalism they mean the anti integrative salad bowl model every time they say multiculturalism.

[Conscentia]

How would policies of anti-integration and anti-unity in a jurisdiction smaller than the whole of Earth result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures"?

In that they would cause disunity in one nation. Which would lead to culture eroding conflict and attitudes.

Earlier you said that you wouldn't advocate the homogenisation of culture because that would result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures", and now you seem to be saying that policies meant to prevent the homogenisation of culture would also result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures". You seem to think that the same result will occur regardless of the policies pursued.

[Jochistan]

In that they would cause disunity in one nation. Which would lead to culture eroding conflict and attitudes.

Earlier you said that you wouldn't advocate the homogenisation of culture because that would result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures", and now you seem to be saying that policies meant to prevent the homogenisation of culture would also result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures". You seem to think that the same result will occur regardless of the policies pursued.

No. I don't.

I think that nations and peoples have their own cultures that foreigners should integrate to to an extent.

But I just don't think a global one is possible or preferable.

You're twisting what I was saying to make it sound hypocritical just because I'm not an autistic that thinks the only course of action for any position is to choose between two extremes.

[Conscentia]

Earlier you said that you wouldn't advocate the homogenisation of culture because that would result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures", and now you seem to be saying that policies meant to prevent the homogenisation of culture would also result "in erosion and disruption of certain cultures". You seem to think that the same result will occur regardless of the policies pursued.

No. I don't.
I think that nations and peoples have their own cultures that foreigners should integrate to to an extent.
But I just don't think a global one is possible or preferable.
You're twisting what I was saying to make it sound hypocritical just because I'm not an autistic that thinks the only course of action for any position is to choose between two extremes.

National boundaries are arbitrary. How much land can they enclose before homogenisation becomes bad?

[Jochistan]

No. I don't.
I think that nations and peoples have their own cultures that foreigners should integrate to to an extent.
But I just don't think a global one is possible or preferable.
You're twisting what I was saying to make it sound hypocritical just because I'm not an autistic that thinks the only course of action for any position is to choose between two extremes.

National boundaries are arbitrary. How much land can they enclose before homogenisation becomes bad?

That depends on the culture, I guess.

[Conscentia]

National boundaries are arbitrary. How much land can they enclose before homogenisation becomes bad?

That depends on the culture, I guess.

How so?