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by Bashriyya » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:22 pm
Kraylandia wrote:Asmikland wrote:Eh. Maybe if you two nations'd stop having a lovers tiff and start being friendly, i'm sure that the world would be better off.
Of course Russia is technically a bigger threat. Look at their fucking military but the likelihood of them attacking us is very very slim. ISIS on the other hand, not so much they are almost guaranteed to strike.
But anyway, the US needs to grow the fuck up and back Assad for the time being. They can dispose of him late.
by Kraylandia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm
Asmikland wrote:Kraylandia wrote:
Of course Russia is technically a bigger threat. Look at their fucking military but the likelihood of them attacking us is very very slim. ISIS on the other hand, not so much they are almost guaranteed to strike.
But anyway, the US needs to grow the fuck up and back Assad for the time being. They can dispose of him late.
Oh, of course. I'm not saying that they aren't threatening, i'm merely saying that both sides need to stop being assholes to eah other, and get along. Then we can actually do some crap about problems in this world. And yeah, their military is pretty scary, and is just getting updated with some pretty neat ass stuff.
Assad isn't 100% bad, of course, and definitely, IS is the bigger evil in any case. they're definitely somebody we need to get rid of.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Jochistan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm
Arlenton wrote:Bashriyya wrote:
the first one is American propaganda
the 2nd one is Israeli propaganda
the third one is Saudi propaganda
all of the three above nations hate Assad.
look at the evidence, the al-qaeda terrorists "rebels" used the gas
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?cat=90
The /pol/ migration is real.
by Bashriyya » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm
by Unnamed island state » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm
Kraylandia wrote:Asmikland wrote:Eh. Maybe if you two nations'd stop having a lovers tiff and start being friendly, i'm sure that the world would be better off.
Of course Russia is technically a bigger threat. Look at their fucking military but the likelihood of them attacking us is very very slim. ISIS on the other hand, not so much they are almost guaranteed to strike.
But anyway, the US needs to grow the fuck up and back Assad for the time being. They can dispose of him late.
by Alyakia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:24 pm
Talvezout wrote:Anyway, I'm gonna concur with Diopolis and leave the thread
Tell me when it calms down y'all
by Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:25 pm
Bashriyya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/18/world/middleeast/islamic-state-isis-chemical-weapons-iraq-syria.html?_r=0
ISIS is using chemical weapons, most of ISIS were at one point "moderate rebels" from the "Free" "Syrian" Army
by Unnamed island state » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:25 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Geilinor wrote:Support him now, get rid of him later is what happened with Saddam Hussein. I'd rather not.
The main issue with Assad is that we know he's an oppressive asshole, and we know that he can keep things under control if backed by powerful governments.
Saddam as an authoritarian prick who violated human rights. However, he kept things under control where we couldn't even manage.
by Unnamed island state » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:27 pm
Asmikland wrote:Bashriyya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/18/world/middleeast/islamic-state-isis-chemical-weapons-iraq-syria.html?_r=0
ISIS is using chemical weapons, most of ISIS were at one point "moderate rebels" from the "Free" "Syrian" Army
No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
I'm all for the Kurds, myself. They seem to be the only nice guys in the area.
by Ayreonia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:33 pm
by Jochistan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:33 pm
Asmikland wrote:Bashriyya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/18/world/middleeast/islamic-state-isis-chemical-weapons-iraq-syria.html?_r=0
ISIS is using chemical weapons, most of ISIS were at one point "moderate rebels" from the "Free" "Syrian" Army
No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
I'm all for the Kurds, myself. They seem to be the only nice guys in the area.
by Bashriyya » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:34 pm
by Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:36 pm
Jochistan wrote:Asmikland wrote:No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
I'm all for the Kurds, myself. They seem to be the only nice guys in the area.
The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.
Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.
by Geilinor » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:39 pm
Asmikland wrote:Jochistan wrote:The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.
Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.
I dunno, doing public executions ISIS-style don't seem all that necessary if you ask me. Jails exist for a reason, it's what i've heard the kurds do with prisoners, and they're doing just fine at dealing with ISIS.
by Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:40 pm
by Kraylandia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:40 pm
Jochistan wrote:Asmikland wrote:No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
I'm all for the Kurds, myself. They seem to be the only nice guys in the area.
The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.
Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.
by Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:42 pm
Kraylandia wrote:Jochistan wrote:The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.
Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.
Assad does terrible things, so we must do them too is essentially what you're saying. Nah, the FSA are terrorists and we need to clamp down on them and send more support to the Kurds.
by Jochistan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:49 pm
Asmikland wrote:Jochistan wrote:The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.
Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.
I dunno, doing public executions ISIS-style don't seem all that necessary if you ask me. Jails exist for a reason, it's what i've heard the kurds do with prisoners, and they're doing just fine at dealing with ISIS.
by Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:53 pm
Jochistan wrote:Asmikland wrote:I dunno, doing public executions ISIS-style don't seem all that necessary if you ask me. Jails exist for a reason, it's what i've heard the kurds do with prisoners, and they're doing just fine at dealing with ISIS.
Executions of Wahh...Alright I won't go there.
But I think when people attack them, execution of the people who fought them are justified. (Hopefully I don't get dunked on for advocating death)
by Lyras » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:57 pm
Mokastana: Then Lyras happened.
Allanea: Wanting to avoid fighting Lyras' fuck-huge military is also a reasonable IC consideration
TPF: Who is stupid enough to attack a Lyran convoy?
Sumer: Honestly, I'd rather face Doom's military with Doom having a 3-1 advantage over me, than take a 1-1 fight with a well-supplied Lyran tank unit.
Kinsgard: RL Lyras is like a real life video game character.
Ieperithem: Eighty four. Eighty four percent of their terrifyingly massive GDP goes directly into their military. And they actually know how to manage it. It's safe to say there isn't a single nation that could feasibly stand against them if they wanted it to die.
Yikes. Just... Yikes.
by Northern Davincia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:59 pm
Ayreonia wrote:I've never met a rightist who wasn't in direct contradiction with himself.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
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