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Talvezout
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Postby Talvezout » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:21 pm

Anyway, I'm gonna concur with Diopolis and leave the thread

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Postby Bashriyya » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:22 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Asmikland wrote:Eh. Maybe if you two nations'd stop having a lovers tiff and start being friendly, i'm sure that the world would be better off.


Of course Russia is technically a bigger threat. Look at their fucking military but the likelihood of them attacking us is very very slim. ISIS on the other hand, not so much they are almost guaranteed to strike.

But anyway, the US needs to grow the fuck up and back Assad for the time being. They can dispose of him late.


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Postby Kraylandia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm

Asmikland wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
Of course Russia is technically a bigger threat. Look at their fucking military but the likelihood of them attacking us is very very slim. ISIS on the other hand, not so much they are almost guaranteed to strike.

But anyway, the US needs to grow the fuck up and back Assad for the time being. They can dispose of him late.

Oh, of course. I'm not saying that they aren't threatening, i'm merely saying that both sides need to stop being assholes to eah other, and get along. Then we can actually do some crap about problems in this world. And yeah, their military is pretty scary, and is just getting updated with some pretty neat ass stuff.

Assad isn't 100% bad, of course, and definitely, IS is the bigger evil in any case. they're definitely somebody we need to get rid of.


Sorry Jello, I quoted the wrong post there but yeah everyone needs to just chill.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Pretty much this ^

Support him now, get rid of him later is what happened with Saddam Hussein. I'd rather not.


The main issue with Assad is that we know he's an oppressive asshole, and we know that he can keep things under control if backed by powerful governments.

Saddam as an authoritarian prick who violated human rights. However, he kept things under control where we couldn't even manage.
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Postby Jochistan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Bashriyya wrote:
the first one is American propaganda
the 2nd one is Israeli propaganda
the third one is Saudi propaganda

all of the three above nations hate Assad.

look at the evidence, the al-qaeda terrorists "rebels" used the gas
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Bashriyya
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Postby Bashriyya » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/18/world ... .html?_r=0

ISIS is using chemical weapons, most of ISIS were at one point "moderate rebels" from the "Free" "Syrian" Army
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Postby Unnamed island state » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:23 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Asmikland wrote:Eh. Maybe if you two nations'd stop having a lovers tiff and start being friendly, i'm sure that the world would be better off.


Of course Russia is technically a bigger threat. Look at their fucking military but the likelihood of them attacking us is very very slim. ISIS on the other hand, not so much they are almost guaranteed to strike.

But anyway, the US needs to grow the fuck up and back Assad for the time being. They can dispose of him late.

Russia is a long term threat, ISIS is a short term threat. The US is strong enough that they could qualm ISIS, if they had a better strategy.

And how do you expect Assad to be gotten rid of when his power's been reaffirmed?
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Alyakia
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:24 pm

Talvezout wrote:Anyway, I'm gonna concur with Diopolis and leave the thread

Tell me when it calms down y'all


if all the right-wingers leave we'll just declare a soviet socialist republic in this thread
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:25 pm

Jochistan wrote:
Arlenton wrote:The /pol/ migration is real.

OP himself is an admitted /pol/ immigrant.

We need to get someone to build a wall or something.

True, that should keep out all those Trump supporting bigots. And deport the ones we have.

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Postby Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:25 pm

Bashriyya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/18/world/middleeast/islamic-state-isis-chemical-weapons-iraq-syria.html?_r=0

ISIS is using chemical weapons, most of ISIS were at one point "moderate rebels" from the "Free" "Syrian" Army

No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
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Postby Unnamed island state » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:25 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Support him now, get rid of him later is what happened with Saddam Hussein. I'd rather not.


The main issue with Assad is that we know he's an oppressive asshole, and we know that he can keep things under control if backed by powerful governments.

Saddam as an authoritarian prick who violated human rights. However, he kept things under control where we couldn't even manage.

He responded quite violently to his opposition (which at the time were primarily secular and non jihadist), which resulted in him losing Erdogan's support, and a civil war.
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:26 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Talvezout wrote:Anyway, I'm gonna concur with Diopolis and leave the thread

Tell me when it calms down y'all


if all the right-wingers leave we'll just declare a soviet socialist republic in this thread

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Postby Unnamed island state » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:27 pm

Asmikland wrote:
Bashriyya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/18/world/middleeast/islamic-state-isis-chemical-weapons-iraq-syria.html?_r=0

ISIS is using chemical weapons, most of ISIS were at one point "moderate rebels" from the "Free" "Syrian" Army

No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
I'm all for the Kurds, myself. They seem to be the only nice guys in the area.

The FSA are very very fractured.
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Postby Ayreonia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:33 pm

I've never met a rightist who wasn't in direct contradiction with himself.
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Jochistan
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Postby Jochistan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:33 pm

Asmikland wrote:
Bashriyya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/18/world/middleeast/islamic-state-isis-chemical-weapons-iraq-syria.html?_r=0

ISIS is using chemical weapons, most of ISIS were at one point "moderate rebels" from the "Free" "Syrian" Army

No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
I'm all for the Kurds, myself. They seem to be the only nice guys in the area.

The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.

Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.
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Postby Bashriyya » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:34 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Bashriyya wrote:

Also stuff like that happens in Israel on a daily basis

Because they are attacked by Hamas.



Well then sorry brother, but that makes you quite hypocritical no offense, because Lebanon is attacked by ISIS a lot, just as Israel is attacked by Hamas a lot.

So they Lebanon and Israel are equal in that respect, to attack one country for being unstable while defending another makes little sense.
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Asmikland
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Postby Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:36 pm

Jochistan wrote:
Asmikland wrote:No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
I'm all for the Kurds, myself. They seem to be the only nice guys in the area.

The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.

Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.

I dunno, doing public executions ISIS-style don't seem all that necessary if you ask me. Jails exist for a reason, it's what i've heard the kurds do with prisoners, and they're doing just fine at dealing with ISIS.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:39 pm

Asmikland wrote:
Jochistan wrote:The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.

Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.

I dunno, doing public executions ISIS-style don't seem all that necessary if you ask me. Jails exist for a reason, it's what i've heard the kurds do with prisoners, and they're doing just fine at dealing with ISIS.

I think Saudi Arabia still does public executions.
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Postby Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:40 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Asmikland wrote:I dunno, doing public executions ISIS-style don't seem all that necessary if you ask me. Jails exist for a reason, it's what i've heard the kurds do with prisoners, and they're doing just fine at dealing with ISIS.

I think Saudi Arabia still does public executions.

And they're not great either. I mean, as the government, unfortunately, it's slightly different, but it's still wrong, and shouldn't be allowed.
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Postby Kraylandia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:40 pm

Jochistan wrote:
Asmikland wrote:No need to tell us stuff we already knew, dude.
The FSA are almost as bad as ISIS, and is where half of ISIS' troops came from, and where they got a lot of their execution techniques from.
I'm all for the Kurds, myself. They seem to be the only nice guys in the area.

The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.

Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.


Assad does terrible things, so we must do them too is essentially what you're saying. Nah, the FSA are terrorists and we need to clamp down on them and send more support to the Kurds.
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Postby Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:42 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Jochistan wrote:The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.

Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.


Assad does terrible things, so we must do them too is essentially what you're saying. Nah, the FSA are terrorists and we need to clamp down on them and send more support to the Kurds.

It'd help if the US would stop sending the FSA TOW missiles and other weapons.
Meanwhile, the Kurds are doing their own things and somehow still manage to kick ass
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Postby Jochistan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:49 pm

Asmikland wrote:
Jochistan wrote:The FSA is actually really not that terrible. The only reason ISIS troops came from them is because they told Salafi-Wahhabis to fuck off.

Sure they're not perfect. And there are sick fucks that tag along just for the killing and possibility of rape in every rebel group. But they are pretty moderate. They're forced to do terrible things because of the people they're up against. Assad is terrible to His People. ISIS is even fucking worse. They have no choice but to be brutal.

I dunno, doing public executions ISIS-style don't seem all that necessary if you ask me. Jails exist for a reason, it's what i've heard the kurds do with prisoners, and they're doing just fine at dealing with ISIS.

Executions of Wahh...Alright I won't go there.

But I think when people attack them, execution of the people who fought them are justified. (Hopefully I don't get dunked on for advocating death)
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Postby Asmikland » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:53 pm

Jochistan wrote:
Asmikland wrote:I dunno, doing public executions ISIS-style don't seem all that necessary if you ask me. Jails exist for a reason, it's what i've heard the kurds do with prisoners, and they're doing just fine at dealing with ISIS.

Executions of Wahh...Alright I won't go there.

But I think when people attack them, execution of the people who fought them are justified. (Hopefully I don't get dunked on for advocating death)

It's all an opinion thing really. Anyways, i suggest we stop derailing the thread, this isn't the place to discuss IS and all that :P
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Postby Lyras » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:57 pm

In theory, it's supposed to be a discussion about perspectives and philosophies held by those on the right-of-center, but not sure it's quite hitting that spot.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:59 pm

Ayreonia wrote:I've never met a rightist who wasn't in direct contradiction with himself.

And I've never met a non-hypocritical leftist.
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