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Edmund Burke
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Total votes : 418

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Arlenton
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Arlenton » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:42 pm

Of course there's just one other Neocon.

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Atelia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Atelia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:42 pm

Zoice wrote:
Atelia wrote:I view it as total war, where any contribution to one in a war effort marks you as a threat. It is certainly a dishonourable method and not preferred but these are times of desperation.


I wouldnt like it, but to carry the cross means to suffer opposition in the mission to spread the word of God.

If Gender is truly an artificial construct, then that means that trans people are not born anything, and thus only actively engaging in a spirit of rebellion against the greater society. If we came to the conclusion that it isnt a construct, then they are abnormal and indeed mentally damaged, something which should be reversed not readily accepted.

This was a good run, but I've caught on. You're just a satirist right?

My Cross hangs low and my Roman blood was tempered in the fires of Olympus, born to an age where my brothers and sisters once proud are now slaves. Im not a humour guy, Im serious because someone needs to be this day and age.

Ragnarum wrote:
Atelia wrote:
If Gender is truly an artificial construct, then that means that trans people are not born anything, and thus only actively engaging in a spirit of rebellion against the greater society. If we came to the conclusion that it isnt a construct, then they are abnormal and indeed mentally damaged, something which should be reversed not readily accepted.


Ok, for the sake of argument I will take this as a truth. What are the long term negative effects of this mental illness?

An inability to properly integrate into society, self hatred and thus a lessened capability to serve their nation.
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Yumyumsuppertime
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:43 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Morr wrote:I have no idea why Jenner is leftist icon. I guess for being on a magazine cover?

For being a California Ellitist Liberal.


California, sure, and perhaps elitist. However, she's a registered Republican who has described herself as conservative.

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Kraylandia
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Postby Kraylandia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:44 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
The Republic of American Freedom wrote:For being a California Ellitist Liberal.


California, sure, and perhaps elitist. However, she's a registered Republican who has described herself as conservative.


Right wingers jumping to conclusions again.
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Postby Zoice » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:45 pm

Atelia wrote:
Zoice wrote:This was a good run, but I've caught on. You're just a satirist right?

My Cross hangs low and my Roman blood was tempered in the fires of Olympus, born to an age where my brothers and sisters once proud are now slaves. Im not a humour guy, Im serious because someone needs to be this day and age.

Ragnarum wrote:
Ok, for the sake of argument I will take this as a truth. What are the long term negative effects of this mental illness?

An inability to properly integrate into society, self hatred and thus a lessened capability to serve their nation.

Hehe. I applaud your devotion to your art, most would break character but not you! *Polite applause*
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Ragnarum
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ragnarum » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:45 pm

Atelia wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:
Ok, for the sake of argument I will take this as a truth. What are the long term negative effects of this mental illness?

An inability to properly integrate into society, self hatred and thus a lessened capability to serve their nation.


Can you source this happening on a consistent basis?
Oddly I'd imagine the main reason for self hatred is people telling them that they are insane and that they should be eugenicised out of existence, just a thought.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:46 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:Well, that's a ridiculous view to have.

No. It's cool.

You wouldn't know cool even if you got lost in the interior of Antarctica while being naked as the day you were born because of a hilarious mishap.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Jochistan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:48 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Well, that's a ridiculous view to have.

No, not when you see his other ones.

He's legitimately pro ISIS. He says it's a common ally against secularism.
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Shamhnan Insir
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:48 pm

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:49 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Merizoc wrote:
So where does libertarian play into all that?

I believe personal liberties should be a priority and the state shouldn't rule us with an iron fist.


So you're what, a right-libertarian?
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Ragnarum
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Postby Ragnarum » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:49 pm

Jochistan wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
Well, that's a ridiculous view to have.

No, not when you see his other ones.

He's legitimately pro ISIS. He says it's a common ally against secularism.


Have not heard that one yet. That's fucking bizarre.
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Hurdegaryp
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:52 pm

Jochistan wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
Well, that's a ridiculous view to have.

No, not when you see his other ones.

He's legitimately pro ISIS. He says it's a common ally against secularism.

Such statements only make secularism look like an even better idea than it is already.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Hillary Clinton 2016-2024
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:54 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Socialism>Capitalism

Yet you say you support Hillary Clinton who is a bought out corporate shill.

Really?funny how you never say that about actual bought corporate shills cough cough all republican candidates cough cough.
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:54 pm

Atelia wrote:
Zoice wrote:This was a good run, but I've caught on. You're just a satirist right?

My Cross hangs low and my Roman blood was tempered in the fires of Olympus, born to an age where my brothers and sisters once proud are now slaves. Im not a humour guy, Im serious because someone needs to be this day and age.

Ragnarum wrote:
Ok, for the sake of argument I will take this as a truth. What are the long term negative effects of this mental illness?

An inability to properly integrate into society, self hatred and thus a lessened capability to serve their nation.


Well, yes, you actually are being satirical here. Unless you have now somehow converted into Nova Roma's micronation and religion.
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Morr
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Postby Morr » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:54 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Jochistan wrote:No, not when you see his other ones.

He's legitimately pro ISIS. He says it's a common ally against secularism.

Such statements only make secularism look like an even better idea than it is already.

Internet comments to get a rise out of people can make anything look better in comparison.
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Ragnarum
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ragnarum » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:55 pm

This thread man :lol2:
Don't copy and paste anything you see in a sig you fucking normie scrub
I deliberately made the star asymmetrical.
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Hurdegaryp
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:56 pm

Morr wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Such statements only make secularism look like an even better idea than it is already.

Internet comments to get a rise out of people can make anything look better in comparison.

The internet archeologists of the future are going to need to be strong.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Vashtanaraada
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Postby Vashtanaraada » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:58 pm

Theocracy isn't necessarily right-wing in theory.
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Arlenton
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Arlenton » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:58 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
The Republic of American Freedom wrote:Yet you say you support Hillary Clinton who is a bought out corporate shill.

Really?funny how you never say that about actual bought corporate shills cough cough all republican candidates cough cough.

Yea, Hillary is never going to out corporate shill us.

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Diopolis
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Ex-Nation

Postby Diopolis » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:58 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
The Republic of American Freedom wrote:Yet you say you support Hillary Clinton who is a bought out corporate shill.

Really?funny how you never say that about actual bought corporate shills cough cough all republican candidates cough cough.

Hillary is at least as bought out as any republican, and considerably more bought out than some.
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Vashtanaraada
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Postby Vashtanaraada » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:59 pm

Morr wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Such statements only make secularism look like an even better idea than it is already.

Internet comments to get a rise out of people can make anything look better in comparison.


That just sounds like you're getting trolled and you're having a bad time handling it now xD
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Vashtanaraada
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Postby Vashtanaraada » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:00 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Really?funny how you never say that about actual bought corporate shills cough cough all republican candidates cough cough.

Hillary is at least as bought out as any republican, and considerably more bought out than some.


Isn't it a problem that the fact you need adequate funding to campaign a bit shitty?
So much for political pluralism.
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Morr
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Ex-Nation

Postby Morr » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:01 pm

Vashtanaraada wrote:
Morr wrote:Internet comments to get a rise out of people can make anything look better in comparison.


That just sounds like you're getting trolled and you're having a bad time handling it now xD

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Old Tyrannia
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:01 pm

Ragnarum wrote:This thread man :lol2:

It's like watching a slow motion train crash, isn't it? You can see where it's going from a mile off, but you just... Can't... Look... Away...
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Hillary Clinton 2016-2024
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:03 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Really?funny how you never say that about actual bought corporate shills cough cough all republican candidates cough cough.

Hillary is at least as bought out as any republican, and considerably more bought out than some.

Because clearly candidates who support anything that benefits corporations aren't bought and candidates who support things that Hold corporations accountable are bought.
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