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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:58 pm

By the way, I expect that regardless of the effect of human trials, this drug will have huge demand from pet owners.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:01 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:By the way, I expect that regardless of the effect of human trials, this drug will have huge demand from pet owners.

Well, it is relatively cheap. Keep in mind that pets that become way older than is usually the case may suddenly suffer from afflictions that normally never happened to them, though.
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Postby Malisin » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:03 pm

I really, really don't want to die, guys.

Cyborg organs when?!
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:04 pm

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The Enclave- wrote:This is fucking awesome.
Maybe now I can live long enough to get a domestic robot like a Mr. Handy.

You may even live long enough to experience the Technological Singularity and see the rise of the machines. After that man and machine become fully integrated, of course.

Acceptable only if we look like Daleks.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:08 pm

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Hurdegaryp wrote:You may even live long enough to experience the Technological Singularity and see the rise of the machines. After that man and machine become fully integrated, of course.

Acceptable only if we look like Daleks.

It is inevitable that we will turn out more like the Cybermen. Could be worse, of course. We could turn out like the Borg. At least the current incarnation of the Cybermen look like their coach work originates from the designer desks of Samsung and Siemens.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:12 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Geilinor wrote:It's an inexpensive drug already used for diabetes.

Ok, my bad, it'll help more then I thought. But what about farmers in the third world?

What about them? There are a lot of technology inaccessible to them, like PC/ phone you are using right now. Doesn't diminish their usefulness not necessity.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:13 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ok, my bad, it'll help more then I thought. But what about farmers in the third world?

What about them? There are a lot of technology inaccessible to them, like PC/ phone you are using right now. Doesn't diminish their usefulness not necessity.

I'm saying that people around the world will continue to suffer as people in the first world live even longer and strain resources more
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:38 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:What about them? There are a lot of technology inaccessible to them, like PC/ phone you are using right now. Doesn't diminish their usefulness not necessity.

I'm saying that people around the world will continue to suffer as people in the first world live even longer and strain resources more

People already suffer under strained resources, no technology will serve as a magic pill to solve these problems but like all other technologies, the cost will reduce with time and likewise the penetration will increase. As far as additional people straining resources goes, that is internally inconsistent assuming you support existance of modern medicine - we'll deal with that like we have with any other advances, by trying half heartedly (and largely failing) to reduce footprint on the environment.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:41 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Acceptable only if we look like Daleks.

It is inevitable that we will turn out more like the Cybermen. Could be worse, of course. We could turn out like the Borg. At least the current incarnation of the Cybermen look like their coach work originates from the designer desks of Samsung and Siemens.


I'd hope that our new forms from the technological singularity wouldn't be limited by the BBCs special effects budget...
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Hurdegaryp wrote:It is inevitable that we will turn out more like the Cybermen. Could be worse, of course. We could turn out like the Borg. At least the current incarnation of the Cybermen look like their coach work originates from the designer desks of Samsung and Siemens.


I'd hope that our new forms from the technological singularity wouldn't be limited by the BBCs special effects budget...

Are you suggesting BBC didn't use a time machine to get real cybermen from the future to act in Dr Who and instead have been using trickery against the Great British public!? Outrageous! :p
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:17 pm

This reminds me of the plot for Resident Evil. Is the Umbrella Corp. active?

Seriously now: interesting development. I expect this will be on trials for at least 10 years.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:20 pm

Until it stops arthritis, I feel like it will only extend retirement.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:21 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:Until it stops arthritis, I feel like it will only extend retirement.

Since it slows the aging process itself, it would delay the onset of arthritis.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:22 pm

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Postby Republiqum » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:23 pm

Which type of Diabetes are we talking about?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:24 pm

Republiqum wrote:Which type of Diabetes are we talking about?


Type 2.

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Postby Republiqum » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:26 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Republiqum wrote:Which type of Diabetes are we talking about?


Type 2.

Damnit!
I guess it makes more sense.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:08 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Until it stops arthritis, I feel like it will only extend retirement.

Since it slows the aging process itself, it would delay the onset of arthritis.

The problem is arthritis is a cartilage issue in many cases. Unless it magically regenerates cartilage, I doubt much would go forth.
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Postby Anima Gentem » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:33 pm

We still trying to defy death? That's nice. Unless we figure out how to expand our life for another hundred years or so then I say don't bother. We have enough of a growing population to worry about without making them live even longer. Call me horrible for it but like I said in the thread about world population, we're gonna have to do something to stop the sharp increase in population
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:34 pm

Anima Gentem wrote:We still trying to defy death? That's nice. Unless we figure out how to expand our life for another hundred years or so then I say don't bother. We have enough of a growing population to worry about without making them live even longer. Call me horrible for it but like I said in the thread about world population, we're gonna have to do something to stop the sharp increase in population

Logically, since it increases the robustness of the cells (hypothetically), we could delay childbearing longer and wind up with fewer children to offset the population surge.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:36 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:This is certainly an interesting development. Granted, I doubt it'll be much of a success, but that's just my realism talking.

I'd never take the drug, I'd much rather not live past 80.

Why not?


Just personal reasons.

For instance, the thought of being senile and unable to do most physical activities frightens me. I want to remain in decent shape, and I want to remain sharp as a nail mentally. Furthermore, 80 years is more than enough. I feel like after 65, I'd get bored, retire, then prefer to die sometime around 75-80.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:38 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Why not?


Just personal reasons.

For instance, the thought of being senile and unable to do most physical activities frightens me. I want to remain in decent shape, and I want to remain sharp as a nail mentally. Furthermore, 80 years is more than enough. I feel like after 65, I'd get bored, retire, then prefer to die sometime around 75-80.

You do realize that, were this to be successful, it would no doubt become nearly instantly widespread (10 cents per day? almost everyone could spare $36 per year), and the government would be required to take certain actions.

Namely, raising the retirement age in stages to 85 or 90, for starters.
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:40 pm

Anima Gentem wrote:We still trying to defy death? That's nice. Unless we figure out how to expand our life for another hundred years or so then I say don't bother. We have enough of a growing population to worry about without making them live even longer. Call me horrible for it but like I said in the thread about world population, we're gonna have to do something to stop the sharp increase in population

So I assume you are voluntarily abstaining from all modern medicine in furtherance of goal of slowing population growing by stopping people living longer?
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:40 pm

Galloism wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Just personal reasons.

For instance, the thought of being senile and unable to do most physical activities frightens me. I want to remain in decent shape, and I want to remain sharp as a nail mentally. Furthermore, 80 years is more than enough. I feel like after 65, I'd get bored, retire, then prefer to die sometime around 75-80.

You do realize that, were this to be successful, it would no doubt become nearly instantly widespread (10 cents per day? almost everyone could spare $36 per year), and the government would be required to take certain actions.

Namely, raising the retirement age in stages to 85 or 90, for starters.


I'm just speaking realistically, as if this drug wouldn't succeed. If it did succeed, it'd be interesting, but I'd be wary of it nonetheless. I find the desire for immorality pointless, and actually depressing.

I probably sound cliched, but meh.
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But do doctors hate them?

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