Possible New Anti-Aging Drug to begin human trials

[Ostroeuropa]

Extending everything in this manner makes the most sense, though i'd be even more hesitant to use this drug pre-puberty, it seems to me that that might require separate trials to see how it effects sexual development, and that's got a whole plethora of issues.

Fair point. I just meant that we have a really weird situation:

For a lot of people, when they are financially secure enough to have children, are already getting too old to have children. I think we should have some years of paid leave early, then we take that onto the retirement age. This allows people to have the time and money to raise children at least until they get into kindergarten.

Any time of that 5 years not used for that purpose would allow them to retire early by that amount of time.

I agree with all that, but there is a problem in some fields such as, for instance, medicine, which would require keeping up to date. Usually that's done on the job. 5 Years is a lot of catching up to do. It can be worked around, it'd just be difficult. 3 years might suffice if you take the view that 2 years can be used to play catchup on certain jobs.

[Napkiraly]

Hypothetically, if this were to occur, I think we should give five years paid leave for mothers and fathers to produce children somewhere in the early 20s, then we could extend retirement age up to like 90.

Might bring our birth rate back up, at least in places where the birth rate needs to be brought back up.

Extending everything in this manner makes the most sense, though i'd be even more hesitant to use this drug pre-puberty, it seems to me that that might require seperate trials to see how it effects sexual development, and that's got a whole plethora of issues.

EDIT:
Shit. I mean, the whole "growing" thing might be extended. You don't grow to 6'6 and your body goes "K done now."

You grow a little bit over time during a period where your body is growing, and each step is just an incremental one. Eventually that time period ends, and you are what height you end up as.

Give kids this drug and we might end up with fucking giants and stuff, which has it's OWN problems. (Giganticism and all that.)

Implying a world full of Hagrid's is a bad thing.

[Galloism]

Hypothetically, if this were to occur, I think we should give five years paid leave for mothers and fathers to produce children somewhere in the early 20s, then we could extend retirement age up to like 90.

Might bring our birth rate back up, at least in places where the birth rate needs to be brought back up.

Well, I'd prefer later 20's since I think people would be more prepared by then but yeah stuff like that can be on the board.

I picked early 20s for a biological reason - it's prime breeding age. You're generally mature enough to handle it, but not so mature that your risk of birth defects increases.

I'm sort of flexible on the exact timeframe through (with information provided about biological viability, mental capacity, etc).

[Ostroeuropa]

Extending everything in this manner makes the most sense, though i'd be even more hesitant to use this drug pre-puberty, it seems to me that that might require seperate trials to see how it effects sexual development, and that's got a whole plethora of issues.

EDIT:
Shit. I mean, the whole "growing" thing might be extended. You don't grow to 6'6 and your body goes "K done now."

You grow a little bit over time during a period where your body is growing, and each step is just an incremental one. Eventually that time period ends, and you are what height you end up as.

Give kids this drug and we might end up with fucking giants and stuff, which has it's OWN problems. (Giganticism and all that.)

Implying a world full of Hagrid's is a bad thing.

If it also gives us magic, i'm fine with it

[Napkiraly]

Well, I'd prefer later 20's since I think people would be more prepared by then but yeah stuff like that can be on the board.

I picked early 20s for a biological reason - it's prime breeding age. You're generally mature enough to handle it, but not so mature that your risk of birth defects increases.

I'm sort of flexible on the exact timeframe through (with information provided about biological viability, mental capacity, etc).

I though late 20's early 30's was actually the prime for a variety of both biological but also social aspects? Or maybe I'm mixing it up with prime age to get married at it.

[Galloism]

Fair point. I just meant that we have a really weird situation:

For a lot of people, when they are financially secure enough to have children, are already getting too old to have children. I think we should have some years of paid leave early, then we take that onto the retirement age. This allows people to have the time and money to raise children at least until they get into kindergarten.

Any time of that 5 years not used for that purpose would allow them to retire early by that amount of time.

I agree with all that, but there is a problem in some fields such as, for instance, medicine, which would require keeping up to date. Usually that's done on the job. 5 Years is a lot of catching up to do. It can be worked around, it'd just be difficult. 3 years might suffice if you take the view that 2 years can be used to play catchup on certain jobs.

Well, I would leave usage to the individual. If only one spouse wanted to stay home (IE, the wife is a doctor or something and she doesn't want time off) to raise the child, he could take said time and do so, while she continues working.

When it comes to retirement time, her retirement age is 5 years earlier than his, because she didn't use her family time.

Or, they could each do 2 years, or if they have a mother that would like to help out, then neither one has to take it, or they both could...

I'm a very flexible person.

[Sino nations]

Resonasce Cascade Will Come Out During These Trials.

Also,It Will Be Exspensive At Best.

[Napkiraly]

Implying a world full of Hagrid's is a bad thing.

If it also gives us magic, i'm fine with it

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. - Arthur C. Clarke

Compared to where we were only a few centuries ago, we basically already have it.

[Uxupox]

I skimmed through both sources and neither mentioned telomeres, now this leaves me very doubtful of the experiments.

[Olivaero]

I skimmed through both sources and neither mentioned telomeres, now this leaves me very doubtful of the experiments.

There's more to aging than just telomeres.

[Hurdegaryp]

The human condition being what it is, I dont see extending the age of venerability as any great benefit. For the most part, we will just mess about longer, creating bigger problems for the upcoming generation that now has to wait longer in the wings before coming onto the stage to attempt redressing the wrongs.

It can also work the other way around. Now that the chance of living several decades longer in good health and with a properly functioning brain is upon the human race, the risk of harvesting the bitter fruits of all those ecocidal seeds sown by those who were of the opinion that they would have perished by now suddenly becomes a lot bigger. Ecological awareness might actually increase because of it, if only for personal reasons.

[The Enclave-]

This is fucking awesome.
Maybe now I can live long enough to get a domestic robot like a Mr. Handy.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Oh boy, rich folks get to live longer. Either that or zombie apocalypse

[Setgavarius]

Extending everything in this manner makes the most sense, though i'd be even more hesitant to use this drug pre-puberty, it seems to me that that might require seperate trials to see how it effects sexual development, and that's got a whole plethora of issues.

EDIT:
Shit. I mean, the whole "growing" thing might be extended. You don't grow to 6'6 and your body goes "K done now."

You grow a little bit over time during a period where your body is growing, and each step is just an incremental one. Eventually that time period ends, and you are what height you end up as.

Give kids this drug and we might end up with fucking giants and stuff, which has it's OWN problems. (Giganticism and all that.)

Implying a world full of Hagrid's is a bad thing.

Their hearts might not be as strong as Hagrid's. That's why the tallest guy who ever lived only lived to his 20s- he needed leg braces to walk and had little feeling in his feet. The braces got infected, pinched him, and finished him off from autoimmune disease.
But I'd like to live forever. HELL FUCKIN' YEAH!

[Samnoreg]

I can see the obnoxious flashing clickbait advertisement now...

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[Setgavarius]

I can see the obnoxious flashing clickbait advertisement now...

"Wrinkles hate him! See how this man stopped ageing with one simple trick! >>>CLICK TO FIND OUT MORE<<<

Only 95,000 dollars and your entire income for a millennium to get the secret!

[Olivaero]

Oh boy, rich folks get to live longer. Either that or zombie apocalypse

Yep thoes are definitly the only two possibilities, nope, nothing positive could happen at all.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Oh boy, rich folks get to live longer. Either that or zombie apocalypse

Yep thoes are definotly the only two possibilities, nope, nothing positive could happen at all.

I've seen enough to know nobodies getting that drug but the rich

[Immoren]

Time to add old age to the list of illnesses as it should be. *nods*

[Geilinor]

Yep thoes are definotly the only two possibilities, nope, nothing positive could happen at all.

I've seen enough to know nobodies getting that drug but the rich

It's an inexpensive drug already used for diabetes.

[Uxupox]

I skimmed through both sources and neither mentioned telomeres, now this leaves me very doubtful of the experiments.

There's more to aging than just telomeres.

But they are an essential part if we want to prolong human life and look good while doing so.

[Olivaero]

Yep thoes are definotly the only two possibilities, nope, nothing positive could happen at all.

I've seen enough to know nobodies getting that drug but the rich

Well to be fair there are other problems for the global poor that need solving first we only need these drugs because we live so long. Its inexpensive enough for a lot of people to afford it with the potential for it to get even cheaper. This isnt some niche medicine in the first world and a badly needed one in the third world it'll be the other wqy round if anything and that means prices will drop like cars and phones and computers and tvs before.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I've seen enough to know nobodies getting that drug but the rich

It's an inexpensive drug already used for diabetes.

Ok, my bad, it'll help more then I thought. But what about farmers in the third world?

[Conserative Morality]

This is certainly an interesting development. Granted, I doubt it'll be much of a success, but that's just my realism talking.

I'd never take the drug, I'd much rather not live past 80.

Why not?

People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

This is my generation
This is my generation, baby

[Hurdegaryp]

This is fucking awesome.
Maybe now I can live long enough to get a domestic robot like a Mr. Handy.

You may even live long enough to experience the Technological Singularity and see the rise of the machines. After that man and machine become fully integrated, of course.