The death penalty, should it be used more?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Here are some articles on it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... or/279949/
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013 ... ike-people
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-norw ... ul-2014-12

Looking at some of these articles, I can see where you're coming from. (TIP TO EVERYONE: Don't result to insults. Just tell what you want to do. Like this.)
I noticed in the second article that the prisoners farmed their own food and were given lives similar to society. I like this. It blends hard labor with rehabilitation. Perhaps the best solution would be to establish a large town for prisoners to rebuild lives, and those who want to leave may choose to do so (after they serve their sentence) or they may choose to stay. I'll admit, it would definitely work, but some conditions would have to remain slightly worse than society, that way they have motivation to go back. But overall, I do agree with that idea.

Congrats on retaining your humanity by not stooping to insulting.

I have quite the record of losing my temper here, so I appreciate the confirmation that I'm doing better.

[Alvecia]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

A number of years in prison with mandatory anger management classes. Number of years undetermined because I am not a legal scholar and would not presume to know what is appropriate.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

Several years in prions, mandatory anger management, banned from owning weapons.

[The Prosperous Peoples]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

A number of years in prison with mandatory anger management classes. Number of years undetermined because I am not a legal scholar and would not presume to know what is appropriate.

It should depend on how he feels about what he's done. If he feels he's guilty, if he's truly sorry for it, let him go with just a few years. If he isn't, prison town solution that I mention earlier. Undefined number of years.

[Conscentia]

That's a load of rubbish. A lot of people experience changes in the personality as they age. Experience shapes personality. Drugs and brain surgery can also alter one's personality.

I cannot accelerate aging; perhaps you can. I do not want the state to have the power to drug or lobotomise people. It could spread much too far. Execution has some level of revulsion attached that limits its use only to those who really pushed it.

Psychiatry has means of affecting change in the mind of the patient besides drugs and lobotomy, and there is active research into expanding and improving those means.

[Alvecia]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

Several years in prions, mandatory anger management, banned from owning weapons.

Forgot about banning weapon ownership, that's a good one.

[Conscentia]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

Voluntary manslaughter.

[Kauthar]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

Death. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life.

[Roski]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

Voluntary manslaughter.

Yes.

He committed voluntary manslaughter or murder

now what's his verdict.

[HMS Vanguard]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

15 years' prison (actual time) medium security, lifetime parole.

This person is probably not far from a useful citizen, just got unlucky to be put in a particularly aggravating situation. No particular danger to the public, could easily be reintegrated tomorrow, the sentence is just deterrent and in case the crime was more premeditated that it seems.

I rather execute the type like this:

You are a judge presiding over the rape trial of a young man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man never finished school, having stopped attending in his early teens. It was at this time he picked up his first dozen convictions for petty theft. As he grew older he picked up further convictions for thefts of increasing value and assault with and without bodily harm, culminating in four felony convictions for which he served a combined five years in prison. Each subsequent felony was committed while he was paroled and was quickly caught. He has never been in regular employment. He is wanted for default of child support. He requires assistance reading papers related to his case. He is often unable to understand his attorney. His presentation is court is either lethargic and surly or aggressive and incoherent.

No horrible crime, just a useless person who is certain to cause more harm to innocents if placed anywhere other than solitary. Five strikes and you're out.

[European Socialist Republic]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

Death. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life.

Woah, slow down Hammurabi! This isn't the 18th century BC!

[Alvecia]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

Death. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life.

Ah yes, the most moral of justices.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Death. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life.

Woah, slow down Hammurabi! This isn't the 18th century BC!

We're getting barbaric up in here

[Conscentia]

Yes.
He committed voluntary manslaughter or murder
now what's his verdict.

Guilty of voluntary manslaughter?
The specific sentence is determined by guidelines the judges have to follow when giving sentences. Judges, at least not to my knowledge, aren't allowed to just give arbitrary sentences.

[Roski]

Woah, slow down Hammurabi! This isn't the 18th century BC!

We're getting barbaric up in here

Not satisfied until execution by nuclear warheads.

[Zoice]

Death. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life.

Woah, slow down Hammurabi! This isn't the 18th century BC!

Ah, check his Views in his signature. *Sighs*

[Kauthar]

We're getting barbaric up in here

Not satisfied until execution by nuclear warheads.

No. It should be a firing squad.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Not satisfied until execution by nuclear warheads.

No. It should be a firing squad.

A firing line of Davy Crocketts, you're a genius.

[The Prosperous Peoples]

I think it's time for a hypothetical before this turns into a flammenwerfer-grade thread.

You are a judge presiding over the homicide trial of a man of indistinct ethnicity or race. Supposing you're not a self-hating whatever you are, just insert your own. The man found his wife and the victim in flagrante delecto and, in a rage, gunned the man down. After he was booked, he was as calm and presentable as he ever could be. Until that point he was a model citizen with maybe a parking ticket to his name. He has not been determined mentally ill by an impartial diagnostician and it seems by all accounts that this man will not present a danger to the community if he were to be released.

What's his verdict?

Death. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life.

Question: Have you ever heard the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right"? Apply it here.

[Roski]

No. It should be a firing squad.

A firing line of Davy Crocketts, you're a genius.

PRAISE BE

on the serious though, I don't think one guy with a 9mm pistol actually costs a whole lot when doing the executions, right?

[Conscentia]

Not satisfied until execution by nuclear warheads.

No. It should be a firing squad.

That wastes the corpse.

The organs could be donated. Or the body could be used to train medical students. Or the body could be provided to researchers.

[Conscentia]

[...]on the serious though, I don't think one guy with a 9mm pistol actually costs a whole lot when doing the executions, right?

I can't imagine what mentally sound person would volunteer for that occupation.

[Monyarvia]

Yes but against homosexuals. For they are an abomination to mankind

[Washington Resistance Army]

[...]on the serious though, I don't think one guy with a 9mm pistol actually costs a whole lot when doing the executions, right?

I can't imagine what mentally sound person would volunteer for that occupation.

That's why they do the whole random bullet thing, so nobody knows who fired the kill shot.

To answer Roski, a firing squad probably would be the cheapest form of execution. But via the powers of bureaucracy it still probably costs a metric fuckton.

[Kauthar]

Yes but against homosexuals. For they are an abomination to mankind

I think it's a sexual degeneracy but death is way too far.