Legalize it All?

[Gim]

We are talking about ADHD, Gim. That's what we've all been talking about, bud.

Adderall is prescribed. That is literally my entire point, Gim. You said: "Students should learn to focus without it." 'It' referring to Adderall. Why do you think we should stop giving people medication for their ADHD when it is a huge godsend to those with mental illness? Many people can not just "get over it."

Ugh. As much as I do not like to admit, I missed the root of the discussion. Yes, we were talking about Adderall. I was multitasking, while posting. Excuse me for that.

I'm trying to be polite and calm here, so please afford me the same courtesy.

I've been trying to be polite and calm, but I wasn't given the same courtesy. Trust me. It happens, and I suggest you get over it quickly just as I do.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Ugh. As much as I do not like to admit, I missed the root of the discussion. Yes, we were talking about Adderall. I was multitasking, while posting. Excuse me for that.

Is this an admission you spoke incorrectly?

I've been trying to be polite and calm, but I wasn't given the same courtesy. Trust me. It happens, and I suggest you get over it quickly just as I do.

I suggest you quit giving people snarky suggestions, so they can maybe begin building the slightest modicum of respect for you.

[Gim]

I suggest you quit giving people snarky suggestions, so they can maybe begin building the slightest modicum of respect for you.

I don't give snarky suggestions, although I've received a great deal of it. I'd appreciate if you can stop harping on and harassing me on almost every post I make.

[Korhal IVV]

[Meryuma]

Yes, it is.

Also, bad trips are easily avoided by 1) not taking psychedelics if you have any mental issues (even something like anxiety), and 2) being in a good state of mind. Even if you end up having one, oh well. It's not gonna hurt you. It can be pretty scary, but you'll come out fine.

I've seen people react to the same substance in morbidly different ways. Surely you've seen it too. You know what I'm talking about right?

Lekker. Now, I'm trying to reconcile this with the fact that you just told me that the bad trip was the user's fault. Because apparently he wasn't mentally stable enough to be ingesting.

I blame the drug, you blame the person.

Do you think alcohol should be illegal? What about boxing? Or skydiving?

Murderer

*Edit- Look at this picture lol

http://imgur.com/ksJSK3Z

666 posts on this thread >_<

Nothing incriminating in this particular pic, but in future I'd advise against posting screenshots that show your tabs bar

Why would you look at porn in the same window as SFW stuff?

[Korhal IVV]

I've seen people react to the same substance in morbidly different ways. Surely you've seen it too. You know what I'm talking about right?

Lekker. Now, I'm trying to reconcile this with the fact that you just told me that the bad trip was the user's fault. Because apparently he wasn't mentally stable enough to be ingesting.

I blame the drug, you blame the person.

Do you think alcohol should be illegal? What about boxing? Or skydiving?

Nothing incriminating in this particular pic, but in future I'd advise against posting screenshots that show your tabs bar

Why would you look at porn in the same window as SFW stuff?

What does SFW stand for

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I suggest you quit giving people snarky suggestions, so they can maybe begin building the slightest modicum of respect for you.

I don't give snarky suggestions, although I've received a great deal of it. I'd appreciate if you can stop harping on and harassing me on almost every post I make.

Stop posting things that are incorrect in threads I am the OP in/involved in and that will happen.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

:clap:

Thank you for the support of drug legalization! Glad you've come to your senses.

[Sanctissima]

Do you think alcohol should be illegal? What about boxing? Or skydiving?



Why would you look at porn in the same window as SFW stuff?

What does SFW stand for

Safe for work.

For those who, um, enjoy arousing themselves at work when they probably shouldn't be.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Why would you look at porn in the same window as SFW stuff?

What can I say, I'm a multitasker.

[Korhal IVV]

If drugs get legalized, these regulations should be placed-

1-People with low incomes (poverty level) should not be allowed to buy more than one packet of drugs a week. Drug addiction will eat up what little money they have and keep their families hungry.

2-Students should not be allowed that crap. They should study instead of chewing/smoking/injecting drugs.

3-No drugs for children

4-A drug user can only buy a limited amount a day so that he/she does not overdose.

This

[Gim]

I don't give snarky suggestions, although I've received a great deal of it. I'd appreciate if you can stop harping on and harassing me on almost every post I make.

Stop posting things that are incorrect in threads I am the OP in/involved in and that will happen.

I think I'm entitled to whatever opinion I hold. So, you're basically admitting to harassing?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Stop posting things that are incorrect in threads I am the OP in/involved in and that will happen.

I think I'm entitled to whatever opinion I hold. So, you're basically admitting to harassing?

Do you now consider debate to be equivalent to harassment, Gim? I address false statements when I see them, from anyone. You can be content in ignorance, but I point it out wherever it's found. You're not special in that regard, bud. You aren't the center of the universe.

[Gim]

I think I'm entitled to whatever opinion I hold. So, you're basically admitting to harassing?

Do you now consider debate to be equivalent to harassment, Gim? I address false statements when I see them, from anyone. You can be content in ignorance, but I point it out wherever it's found. You're not special in that regard, bud. You aren't the center of the universe.

No, I don't. The way you present your claims is, though. I don't mind the sources you provide, but it's the general rhetoric that seems to be frowned, not just in NS, but also in RL. Rebuttals are fine, but you really need to work on your politeness some more. Making one "polite" post and blaming an innocent person of being impolite and "snarky" does not make the cut. I hope you don't willfully ignore the advice I'm giving you.

[Valystria]

If drugs get legalized, these regulations should be placed-

1-People with low incomes (poverty level) should not be allowed to buy more than one packet of drugs a week. Drug addiction will eat up what little money they have and keep their families hungry.

2-Students should not be allowed that crap. They should study instead of chewing/smoking/injecting drugs.

3-No drugs for children

4-A drug user can only buy a limited amount a day so that he/she does not overdose.

This

These restrictions are terrible.

So much paternalism. You're treating drug users like children and ignoring that the vast majority of users are responsible in their usage. Stop punishing us for the mistakes of an insignificant minority.

Stop posting things that are incorrect in threads I am the OP in/involved in and that will happen.

I think I'm entitled to whatever opinion I hold. So, you're basically admitting to harassing?

No one is entitled to hold faulty opinions.

:clap:

Thank you for the support of drug legalization! Glad you've come to your senses.

Except they don't really support it. They support an extremely paternalistic version of legalization, one in which the state insists on holding your hand and guiding you through your usage down to how much you can purchase per day, lacking the slightest concern for how most users are responsible.

[Gim]

No one is entitled to hold faulty opinions.

Actually, yes, but calling them true, even after the sources have been confirmed is wrong. I won't have any problem retracting my statements when they are confirmed as wrong, hence my change of stance on drug legalization.

[The Legion Authority]

Today, the decriminalization or legalization of cannabis is an increasingly well-accepted idea, with four US states (and Uruguay) allowing it for recreational usage and many more for medical purposes. Most Generalites seem to be in favor of it, acknowledging this forum's socially-liberal leanings. A more contentious issue is the decriminalization or legalization of harder drugs - highly stigmatized substances such as cocaine, amphetamines, and heroin, along with ones that are physically harmless, such as LSD and psilocybin mushrooms.

Many are convinced that across-the-board drug decriminalization (see the difference between decriminalization and legalization here) would result in something akin to a societal breakdown. Everyone would be too high to go to work. Children would be dying in the streets, needle in arm. Gangs would run free, addicting everyone and everything to their Satanic product. This is, to put it mildly, really fucking incorrect.

Portugal decriminalized hard drugs, and that hasn't happened to them. In fact, quite the opposite: drug use in there is actually down by half. Instead of jailing an addict for years and blazing their path toward lifelong recidivism, ruining their lives more than the drugs probably ever would have, Portugal discards the drugs and recommends the "offender" to a rehab center.

The Drug War in America has been a catastrophically expensive, harmful, racist, and evil failure. Almost 700,000 non-violent drug offenders were arrested in 2013, because they possessed something the government (or, perhaps, the private prison lobbies) didn't want them to have. Ignoring the fact that drugs like cannabis, psilocybin, LSD, MDMA, mescaline, DMT, etc, are not only effectively harmless but also are very possibly beneficial to mental health, this seems like an affront to justice in its own right.

Terence McKenna once said that "psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong."

I admit to being a bit of a psychonaut myself, but I would agree with that statement. I believe all drugs - psychedelics, opiates, and stimulants alike - should be fully legalized, in the interest of freedom, justice, and rationality. I mean, should we ignore all of the following?

Cannabis. Can possibly cure cancer. 23 Other Benefits. LSD has a variety of benefits, including reducing anxiety and curing alcoholism. Mushrooms can cure depression, and can cause lasting personality changes for the better. Opiates are the best painkillers in the world, and are already over-prescribed. Need I say more? And we're giving weak meth to small children already.

Legalizing drugs would make a huge dent in cartel profits, and would ensure users had knowledge of exactly what's in their substance, not to mention its exact potency - which would likely have a big effect on overdoses.

What say you, NSG? Should we legalize it all?

Cannabis should be still outlawed and frowned upon.

the truth is its addictive not in the since you will be hooked on it and never get off it like heroin.. its the addiction to the point like coffee you need that or else you start getting headaches or shivers.

Cannabis is not pure nor is it all natural these days if you ever have grown weed or smoked it and go and try all these other weeds that have been extracted and chemicals added to it to get a bigger high and faster. pretty much its a gateway drug to bigger and harder drugs and it will always remain this way.

Cause weed is becoming legalized national that means gangs and cartels and people selling weed low level wont be making money really and that "crime" will go down... well hate to break it to you but thats a myth.... local cannabis shops are in a all time high of being robbed and buglarized in order to still make the money they are "losing". basically its a supplement.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Do you now consider debate to be equivalent to harassment, Gim? I address false statements when I see them, from anyone. You can be content in ignorance, but I point it out wherever it's found. You're not special in that regard, bud. You aren't the center of the universe.

No, I don't. The way you present your claims is, though. I don't mind the sources you provide, but it's the general rhetoric that seems to be frowned, not just in NS, but also in RL. Rebuttals are fine, but you really need to work on your politeness some more. Making one "polite" post and blaming an innocent person of being impolite and "snarky" does not make the cut. I hope you don't willfully ignore the advice I'm giving you.

Fucking make me. Maybe I'll try, once you start accepting basic fucking facts and sources instead of closing your eyes, putting your hands over your ears, and singing Jesus Loves Me at the top of your voice.

[Gim]

No, I don't. The way you present your claims is, though. I don't mind the sources you provide, but it's the general rhetoric that seems to be frowned, not just in NS, but also in RL. Rebuttals are fine, but you really need to work on your politeness some more. Making one "polite" post and blaming an innocent person of being impolite and "snarky" does not make the cut. I hope you don't willfully ignore the advice I'm giving you.

Fucking make me. Maybe I'll try, once you start accepting basic fucking facts and sources instead of closing your eyes, putting your hands over your ears, and singing Jesus Loves Me at the top of your voice.

I accepted facts and sources. I just didn't accept them from you. Point of view seems to be distorted, but, Prussia-Steinbach, you should take this to telegram. Send me a telegram, if you want to reply, okay?

[Korhal IVV]

[Washington Resistance Army]

:roll:

Why are you spamming?

[Krasny-Volny]

I have a feeling that some people here want everything legalized so they can get high without the prospect of being punished for actually breaking the law.

Cause we all obey only the laws we agree with, right?

I really don't see the difference between the posters who boast openly about smoking pot in places where it's still illegal and those unnamed DEATs who spoke about violating other laws and got banned for them.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I have a feeling that some people here want everything legalized so they can get high without the prospect of being punished for actually breaking the law.

Cause we all obey only the laws we agree with, right?

I really don't see the difference between the posters who boast openly about smoking pot in places where it's still illegal and those unnamed DEATs who spoke about violating other laws and got banned for them.

Yes, actually

And I disagree, the notion I'm getting from most people here is they want it legalized because the drug war has been a colossal failure that has produced no good results.

[Korhal IVV]

I have a feeling that some people here want everything legalized so they can get high without the prospect of being punished for actually breaking the law.

Cause we all obey only the laws we agree with, right?

I really don't see the difference between the posters who boast openly about smoking pot in places where it's still illegal and those unnamed DEATs who spoke about violating other laws and got banned for them.

Super heavy regulations are a must

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I have a feeling that some people here want everything legalized so they can get high without the prospect of being punished for actually breaking the law.

Cause we all obey only the laws we agree with, right?

I really don't see the difference between the posters who boast openly about smoking pot in places where it's still illegal and those unnamed DEATs who spoke about violating other laws and got banned for them.

What does this have to do with anything? And what do you mean by your last sentence?