Are Catholics christians?

[The Liberated Territories]

Considering Catholics legit invented Christianity, it would be odd for them not to be Christians.

[United Marxist Nations]

Yeah, but their point of view is wrong, so it doesn't matter. No ecclesiastical jurisdiction, little study of the ancient Christian writings, dogma, the councils, etc. The exude solely based on faith and the Bible. It is heresy.

The Catholic Church literly banned all new thought during the council of Trent. Literally nothing is not heretical to them until Vatican 2 which itself could be viewed as heretical

Uh, source?

[United Marxist Nations]

Considering Catholics legit invented Christianity, it would be odd for them not to be Christians.

No, they didn't.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

...taking only the word of God, Christ, and the Apostles as authoritative is heretical?

No, but that's not what Protestants do.

What do they do, then?

[Gim]

Considering Catholics legit invented Christianity, it would be odd for them not to be Christians.

That is not really senseless at all.

[Tutukerala]

What Christian Doctrine does Protestantism betray?

Both the Lutheran and Reformed Church believe in the Trinity, Deity of Christ, Most the teachings of the Church, the Virgin Birth.

These are not the only doctrines of Christianity. They deny the saints, the early councils, and the writings of the early Christians and scholars.

Saints those in Communion with God? We have those, we name Churches after them, I go to St.Andrews. The Early Councils are accepted, because the rulings are from Scripture and don't contradict. The writings of the Fathers are accepted and read in Churches, but the Word of God is superior to them. The point of the Fathers writings is to guided Christians in the Life of the Church, to defend against heresy, to secure true doctrine, and to help us live according to the Scriptures.

[Daburuetchi]

Well your wrong. In my Presbyterian Church we recite the Creeds, study the words of the Fathers, Dogma is accepted so long as it doesn't contradict scripture, Sola Fide is most scriptural my friends

There are some protestants that are better, but most are heretical to the core. The only ones who could claim Catholicism is heresy is the Orthodox. And now that there is no Roman Emperor, that is debatable.

Except also fratcelli, cathars, anabaptist, Lollards, waldenisans, Gnostics, monophysites, Arians etc...

[Wallenburg]

Considering Catholics legit invented Christianity, it would be odd for them not to be Christians.

Jesus and his homies invented Christianity. Jesus was a Jew.

[Gim]

Considering Catholics legit invented Christianity, it would be odd for them not to be Christians.

Jesus and his homies invented Christianity. Jesus was a Jew.

Oh right, yes, they did. Catholicism emerged afterwards, right?

[New Granadeseret]

... that was a joke sir and/or miss

Anyways, strictly following the teaches espoused by Jesus of Nazareth on the scale required to have a world-wide religion is essentially impossible anyways. Ultimately, there's no hard and fast rules to be a Christian other than to believe the teachings of J.o.N were divinely inspired anyways, so let them sort it out among themselves.

I don't see how anyone could conceivably gain one iota of humor from what looks like a simple declarative statement. You could still have a religion spread worldwide and not have follow a rigid hierarchy. The over arching message of the bible is that Christianity is a religion of the poor and except for liberation theology Catholicism has largely moved away from that.

It was a pun related to the duel uses of the word Orthodoxy. Not a good joke, I know. I'm not seriously calling Eastern Orthodoxy the correct path (Though, its important to note they would assert Catholicism is a heresy, as it goes against the rulings in some of the earlier councils: though, those themselves were not free of political biases... this is the problem with trying to find 'divine truth' in things written by humans. Shows that what is heresy largely depends on where you sit).

You do if you want to keep the beliefs similar enough that you're actually practicing one religion, as opposed to varying schools of philosophy. And here's the thing: you allow freedom of thought, and there's legitimate room for disagreement. Who are you to say your interpretation of the bible is the correct one? You can't if you're saying Protestantism is the ideal way to think about Christianity, as it's based on everybody's own interpretation of the texts. For example; the Old Testament has many examples of God rewarding righteousness with wealth and power and wickness with poverty and ruin. I'm not going to weigh in on what exactly they're saying: I'm not a Christian, but there is legitimate room for disagreement. On what ground can you demand a doctrinal view; you who spit in the face of organizational doctrine?

Ultimately, so far as I understand it, being a Christian merely means you believe the teachings of Jesus of Nazarith were divinely inspired (And that selected other claimed prophets in future years, such as Muhammad, were not... unless you claim they were the 2nd Coming... which leads down a rabbit hole of various cults and branches). If those who call themselves Christian can agree on a different definition then that, then I'll use it.

[United Marxist Nations]

No, but that's not what Protestants do.

What do they do, then?

IIRC, they also promote salvation through faith alone.

[Washington Resistance Army]

No, Catholics are dirty heretics.

#OrthodoxLife

[Tutukerala]

Considering Catholics legit invented Christianity, it would be odd for them not to be Christians.

Um no, Christ gave us the Church, which started at Pentecost. The Church split into the Roman Catholic Church, and the Orthodox Catholic Church.

[United Marxist Nations]

There are some protestants that are better, but most are heretical to the core. The only ones who could claim Catholicism is heresy is the Orthodox. And now that there is no Roman Emperor, that is debatable.

Except also fratcelli, cathars, anabaptist, Lollards, waldenisans, Gnostics, monophysites, Arians etc...

Who are all heretical branches.

[New confederate ramenia]

What do they do, then?

IIRC, they also promote salvation through faith alone.

A lot of the doctrine of the various Protestant sects depends on particular interpretations of Scripture, and on ignoring some parts. Protestants removed some books from the Bible as well.

[Daburuetchi]

The Catholic Church literly banned all new thought during the council of Trent. Literally nothing is not heretical to them until Vatican 2 which itself could be viewed as heretical

Uh, source?

Whelp I no longer have my Catholic school books and hunted around for an exact source that says no new thought but can't find it. They did squash dissent via censorship and offered no concessions to the Protestants or really anyone who challenged the system.

[Daburuetchi]

Except also fratcelli, cathars, anabaptist, Lollards, waldenisans, Gnostics, monophysites, Arians etc...

Who are all heretical branches.

How is it not heretical to advocate as the church does that there are seven sacraments when Jesus only underwent confirmation and baptism?

[Gim]

Uh, source?

Whelp I no longer have my catabolic source books and hunted around for an exact source that says no new thought but can't find it. They did squash dissent via censorship and offered no concessions to the Protestants.

Wikipedia is good, too.

[United Marxist Nations]

Who are all heretical branches.

How is it not heretical to advocate as the church does that there are seven sacraments when Jesus only underwent confirmation and baptism?

Because the Church has ecclesiastical jurisdiction.

[The Intergalactic Russian Empire]

Jesus and his homies invented Christianity. Jesus was a Jew.

Oh right, yes, they did. Catholicism emerged afterwards, right?

Yeah, both Catholicism and the Orthodox church were technically founded by St. Peter and IIRC split apart along with the Roman Empire. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Daburuetchi]

Whelp I no longer have my catabolic source books and hunted around for an exact source that says no new thought but can't find it. They did squash dissent via censorship and offered no concessions to the Protestants.

Wikipedia is good, too.

They don't says no new thought only that the Catholic Church squashed dissent and strengthened the hierarchy

[Western Pacific Territories]

Catholics were literally the only group of Christians before the Great Split and the Reformation. Case closed.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

What do they do, then?

IIRC, they also promote salvation through faith alone.

Yep. Got that from the Bible of all places.

[The Alma Mater]

Let us look at it democratically.

An absolute majority of people calling themselves Christian belongs to a single denomination: Roman Catholicism.

The remainder is divided into countless splinter groups.

So.... It is up to the Catholics to decide who is and who is not christian. Praise Democracy for easy solutions.

[United Marxist Nations]

Catholics were literally the only group of Christians before the Great Split and the Reformation. Case closed.

Lol, no.