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Postby May Mays » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:49 pm

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May Mays wrote:That's if a vette can make it past the first turn :>

and if it can not crash on the nurburgring


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Postby Licana » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:57 pm

May Mays wrote:and sloshiest oil pans

im surprised your gm clutch hasn't fallen off yet


>not making super-accessible cars with so much power that they rip themselves apart

all other car makers are lame
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:27 am

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May Mays wrote:That's if a vette can make it past the first turn :>

and if it can not crash on the nurburgring

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Postby Patridam » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:42 am

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Petrolheadia wrote:I think the C3 is one of the best-looking cars ever, but hey, he wanted to build a fast car, I told him how to build a fast car.

The C3, in hindsight, looked great, but it couldn't crack 200 hp.


The 1970 spec 454 HO was rated for 450 hp, the 1969 427 was rated for 435. The vast vast majority of engines in the C3 - only leaving out the one year only 305 and some bad years for the 350 - had 200 or more hp.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:47 am

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Auzkhia wrote:The C3, in hindsight, looked great, but it couldn't crack 200 hp.


The 1970 spec 454 HO was rated for 450 hp, the 1969 427 was rated for 435. The vast vast majority of engines in the C3 - only leaving out the one year only 305 and some bad years for the 350 - had 200 or more hp.

Already pointed it out.
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Postby Auzkhia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:41 am

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Auzkhia wrote:The C3, in hindsight, looked great, but it couldn't crack 200 hp.


The 1970 spec 454 HO was rated for 450 hp, the 1969 427 was rated for 435. The vast vast majority of engines in the C3 - only leaving out the one year only 305 and some bad years for the 350 - had 200 or more hp.

It's been already brought to my attention that earlier C3 models had more power.
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:11 am

Got some bad news, that improper coolant really shafted me. Timing belt is fucked, head is probably partly seized and will need work, and water pump is totally dead.

Looking at a roughly $3000 repair or ditching this car and buying something else. Heavily leaning toward the latter, quite frankly. :(
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Postby Auzkhia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:37 am

Arkinesia wrote:Got some bad news, that improper coolant really shafted me. Timing belt is fucked, head is probably partly seized and will need work, and water pump is totally dead.

Looking at a roughly $3000 repair or ditching this car and buying something else. Heavily leaning toward the latter, quite frankly. :(

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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:54 am

Arkinesia wrote:Got some bad news, that improper coolant really shafted me. Timing belt is fucked, head is probably partly seized and will need work, and water pump is totally dead.

Looking at a roughly $3000 repair or ditching this car and buying something else. Heavily leaning toward the latter, quite frankly. :(

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Postby May Mays » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:28 pm

Arkinesia wrote:Got some bad news, that improper coolant really shafted me. Timing belt is fucked, head is probably partly seized and will need work, and water pump is totally dead.

Looking at a roughly $3000 repair or ditching this car and buying something else. Heavily leaning toward the latter, quite frankly. :(

Replacing a timing belt doesn't require much experience. As long as you have the tools to remove it, you can probably do it in a few hours. It's a lot cheaper that way. Water pump isn't that difficult either,tbh. Everything in the engine bay that isn't the engine or transmission is fairly simple to fix. You could probably spend closer to $1500 if you fix it yourself.

How did the coolant affect your timing belt though?
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Postby Auzkhia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:00 pm

So, my parents acquired a 2007 Jeep Compass, it just needs a tune up and better brakes, but that's a quick fix and is in better shape than my sister's electrical gremlin infested New Beetle. So, the Compass will be her new car.

Good call or stupid idea?
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Postby Ole Wisconsin » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:44 pm

Auzkhia wrote:So, my parents acquired a 2007 Jeep Compass, it just needs a tune up and better brakes, but that's a quick fix and is in better shape than my sister's electrical gremlin infested New Beetle. So, the Compass will be her new car.

Good call or stupid idea?

Well...... I honestly don't see how that could be a stupid idea.
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Postby Auzkhia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:00 pm

Ole Wisconsin wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:So, my parents acquired a 2007 Jeep Compass, it just needs a tune up and better brakes, but that's a quick fix and is in better shape than my sister's electrical gremlin infested New Beetle. So, the Compass will be her new car.

Good call or stupid idea?

Well...... I honestly don't see how that could be a stupid idea.

The Jeep seems to be in better shape, the electrical gremlin really baffled my mechanically inclined Dad, the New Beetle, however seems to be a lemon.
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Postby Tinder Enthusiasts » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:55 pm

May Mays wrote:Supra handles better though,

Not when you put an LS1 on the front axle...

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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:21 pm

May Mays wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:Got some bad news, that improper coolant really shafted me. Timing belt is fucked, head is probably partly seized and will need work, and water pump is totally dead.

Looking at a roughly $3000 repair or ditching this car and buying something else. Heavily leaning toward the latter, quite frankly. :(

Replacing a timing belt doesn't require much experience. As long as you have the tools to remove it, you can probably do it in a few hours. It's a lot cheaper that way. Water pump isn't that difficult either,tbh. Everything in the engine bay that isn't the engine or transmission is fairly simple to fix. You could probably spend closer to $1500 if you fix it yourself.

How did the coolant affect your timing belt though?

The coolant fucked up the water pump, which in turn ate away the edges of the timing belt, because the water pump was basically trying to lock itself up.

As far as the prices I was quoted on the parts in total were concerned, they weren't any higher than the prices I was seeing online for the parts, and they're only charging three units of labor (@$110 each) to do the head job.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:44 pm

This is just making me think of our van, which is slowly destroying itself. Every now and then something I forgot exactly what "breaks open" (because we just put sealant in it because nothing in this shitty car is even worth fixing anymore) and leaks into the oil, and we have to replace it. And I think whatever it is slowly destroys the engine itself. There's like a $1,700 fix in the front of the car alone, and the cars no longer even worth that. That's ignoring our bad shocks (The car bounces way too much on bumpy areas), and the brake issues (It like, "stutters" as you brake, for lack of a better word). Also, all the interior lights no longer work, the right front passenger window doesn't work (And the left one barely works), the sliding door doesn't work (Hasn't for years), broken seat belt (Chewed by a dog over 10 years ago, but it was rarely needed, so yeah), leaky headlight containers so those fill up with water sometime (Hence us using the garage more), various things rattling in the front, transmission issues (Sometimes it is super noisy, we turn it off, then start it up again, and it is fixed), and I'm sure other issues as well to be honest.

Our truck, which we've barely used, has its own issues now, too. The water pump is leaking, the pipe to the gas tank leaks (And was replaced because they told you to, but we left state so we can't use that anymore), and for some reason, the battery drains. We replaced the battery thinking it was the battery itself, but it still does, so we have some electrical connection issues. But at this point, these obviously much minor issues might be worth it over the terribly falling apart van.

Edit: I also forgot that the front of the van on dirt roads now, mostly when we go downhill it seems, is rather noisy. It's okay up hill more, but downhill it's quite noisy, and I don't know what it is so it's a bit alarming. This also quite majorly ruins a lot of our hiking plans because we can't go out on long dirt roads right now.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:49 pm

This thread makes me drool a little bit thinking about whenever my Tesla is going to be delivered.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:49 am

Corrian wrote:This is just making me think of our van, which is slowly destroying itself. Every now and then something I forgot exactly what "breaks open" (because we just put sealant in it because nothing in this shitty car is even worth fixing anymore) and leaks into the oil, and we have to replace it. And I think whatever it is slowly destroys the engine itself. There's like a $1,700 fix in the front of the car alone, and the cars no longer even worth that. That's ignoring our bad shocks (The car bounces way too much on bumpy areas), and the brake issues (It like, "stutters" as you brake, for lack of a better word). Also, all the interior lights no longer work, the right front passenger window doesn't work (And the left one barely works), the sliding door doesn't work (Hasn't for years), broken seat belt (Chewed by a dog over 10 years ago, but it was rarely needed, so yeah), leaky headlight containers so those fill up with water sometime (Hence us using the garage more), various things rattling in the front, transmission issues (Sometimes it is super noisy, we turn it off, then start it up again, and it is fixed), and I'm sure other issues as well to be honest.

Our truck, which we've barely used, has its own issues now, too. The water pump is leaking, the pipe to the gas tank leaks (And was replaced because they told you to, but we left state so we can't use that anymore), and for some reason, the battery drains. We replaced the battery thinking it was the battery itself, but it still does, so we have some electrical connection issues. But at this point, these obviously much minor issues might be worth it over the terribly falling apart van.

Edit: I also forgot that the front of the van on dirt roads now, mostly when we go downhill it seems, is rather noisy. It's okay up hill more, but downhill it's quite noisy, and I don't know what it is so it's a bit alarming. This also quite majorly ruins a lot of our hiking plans because we can't go out on long dirt roads right now.


Sounds like time to get another van. You should be able to get a used one pretty cheap. I would look sat cars.com or a similar website.

The truck should not be too bad to fix, replacing the water pump and fixing the gas pipe should not be too big deal. The tricky part about the electrical thing is find where the problem is. Could just be a bit of insulation the chaffed of two wires somewhere.
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Postby Patridam » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:53 am

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Ole Wisconsin wrote:Well...... I honestly don't see how that could be a stupid idea.

The Jeep seems to be in better shape, the electrical gremlin really baffled my mechanically inclined Dad, the New Beetle, however seems to be a lemon.


Well, nobody ever accused the Jeep Compass (and the extremely similar Patriot) of being excellent cars.... or being particularly reliable or nicely made for that matter; but a Compass is very appropriate for a young woman, I should think.
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Postby May Mays » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:46 am

Arkinesia wrote:
May Mays wrote:Replacing a timing belt doesn't require much experience. As long as you have the tools to remove it, you can probably do it in a few hours. It's a lot cheaper that way. Water pump isn't that difficult either,tbh. Everything in the engine bay that isn't the engine or transmission is fairly simple to fix. You could probably spend closer to $1500 if you fix it yourself.

How did the coolant affect your timing belt though?

The coolant fucked up the water pump, which in turn ate away the edges of the timing belt, because the water pump was basically trying to lock itself up.

As far as the prices I was quoted on the parts in total were concerned, they weren't any higher than the prices I was seeing online for the parts, and they're only charging three units of labor (@$110 each) to do the head job.

If you can afford it without it impacting the rest of you finances, buy a different car.

Dropping $3000 on an old Jetta doesn't sound like a great value :\
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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:50 pm

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May Mays wrote:Supra handles better though,

Not when you put an LS1 on the front axle...

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Auzkhia wrote:The Jeep seems to be in better shape, the electrical gremlin really baffled my mechanically inclined Dad, the New Beetle, however seems to be a lemon.


Well, nobody ever accused the Jeep Compass (and the extremely similar Patriot) of being excellent cars.... or being particularly reliable or nicely made for that matter; but a Compass is very appropriate for a young woman, I should think.

It's related to the dodgy Dodge Caliber too, it's more of a car, but looks like a small crossover. I'd say it's okay-ish, as long it has no major problems.
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Auzkhia wrote:
Tinder Enthusiasts wrote:Not when you put an LS1 on the front axle...

It's the best, the LS always wins!!11
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Well, nobody ever accused the Jeep Compass (and the extremely similar Patriot) of being excellent cars.... or being particularly reliable or nicely made for that matter; but a Compass is very appropriate for a young woman, I should think.

It's related to the dodgy Dodge Caliber too, it's more of a car, but looks like a small crossover. I'd say it's okay-ish, as long it has no major problems.

Yep. I'd say about the same. Not the best thing in the world. But it's definitely decent, provided there ain't any major mechanical problems. And if it's what you have.. well, go ahead and use it, y'know?
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:01 pm

Let's start a story of a car owner:
Joe Calhoun was born in 1908 in rural Illinois. He received his first car at the age of 17. It was a hand-me-down 1920 Ford Model T truck, previously owned by his dad. He used it while moving to Chicago in 1927. He wanted to replace it in 1929, but the crisis broke out, so he drove the Ford until 1932, when the repairs were worth more than the car. In 1933, he got a job in a department store as a clerk. In 1935, he decided to buy a car and got a...
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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:16 pm

Ole Wisconsin wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:It's the best, the LS always wins!!11

It's related to the dodgy Dodge Caliber too, it's more of a car, but looks like a small crossover. I'd say it's okay-ish, as long it has no major problems.

Yep. I'd say about the same. Not the best thing in the world. But it's definitely decent, provided there ain't any major mechanical problems. And if it's what you have.. well, go ahead and use it, y'know?

Yeah, should be a good enough car for her, my parents say it is safe, (because safety is what parents care about anyway) and she wanted a 'Jeep' anyway.
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Petrolheadia wrote:Let's start a story of a car owner:
Joe Calhoun was born in 1908 in rural Illinois. He received his first car at the age of 17. It was a hand-me-down 1920 Ford Model T truck, previously owned by his dad. He used it while moving to Chicago in 1927. He wanted to replace it in 1929, but the crisis broke out, so he drove the Ford until 1932, when the repairs were worth more than the car. In 1933, he got a job in a department store as a clerk. In 1935, he decided to buy a car and got a...

1931 Model A. He drove it for a bit. One day, in 1937, while he was inside a general store, a couple of penitentiary escapees on the run from the law hopped into the parked car and drove it away. The escapees later got into a car chase shootout with the police. This ended up resulting in the car getting riddled with gunfire and runned off the road into a creek when one of the tires got popped by a bullet, causing the driver to loose control. Once he had discovered what had happened, he was rather angry. He had just lost his car and had no money to get another one. He went for the next 4 years without an automobile. In 1941, he decided to go and buy a...
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