Should Businesses be allowed to discriminate?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The next hotel, only 50 miles away, eh?

Right.

FIne, if you're so picky that you won't wake up a hour earlier to get to your destination (you know, like most Americans do in their commute), then find a remote place, lock your car doors, and sleep there.

Grow a pair and stop asking for the government to save you. Some people are jerks. That's life.

Most Americans are also homeowners of some sort, and they usually don't travel out of their city to conferences.

[Royal Hindustan]

Coddle to feelings? You do realize that this shit happened all the time. We're just saying it's a business's right to choose.

Well, maybe it shouldn't be.

Yes, a woman shouldn't be allowed to choose either. If I say you're aborting that thing, you have no right to choose. Dumb broad, why would you have a right to choose on something that directly correlates to you? (obviously sarcasm)

[Mavorpen]

Souls don't exist.

Opinion. Possible trolling.

I don't think you know what those words mean.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Clearly they do not.

By that logic it is perfectly acceptable to prohibit businesses from denying people serviced based on their race, sex, etc, since such practices harm the general public.

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"[P]ublic accommodations" doesn't mean "publicly owned".

Yes, yes they do. I sent a source up above, but that is not what this thread is about.

A source that did not say what you believed it did.

No, it is not perfectly acceptable to prohibit them from discriminating. If a business refuses to provide a service, then people can go to another business. Pretty simple here. Where one business will not accept your kind, another certainly will. Problem solved!

Except that's not certain. Moreover, being thrown out of an establishment because of your race or sex or whatever itself constitutes harm.

Also, Public accommodations can mean publicly owned or privately owned or both. This all depending the circumstances. Here is a more official definition. " Within U.S. law, public accommodations are generally defined as entities, both public and private, that are used by the public."
Although they can be used to mean both Private and Public, the 1964 civil rights act ( as mentioned in the first paragraph of the general summary) outlines publically owned facilities.

Don't lie.

An act to...confer jurisdiction upon the district courts of the United States of America to provide injunctive relief against discrimination in public accommodations

THIS IS NOT THE INTENDED QUESTION. WE ARE THREAD JACKING, THE QUESTION WAS SHOULD THEY. BACK ON TOPIC!

Don't shout either.


You are not listening to the points I am making, disregarding the evidence I provide, and you are calling me a liar on baseless claims. I am not going to enter into a fist fight with you.

Also, you should look up the effects of the Religious freedom act, as you do not seem to know much about it.

I am done with responding to you now.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well, maybe it shouldn't be.

Yes, a woman shouldn't be allowed to choose either. If I say you're aborting that thing, you have no right to choose. Dumb broad, why would you have a right to choose on something that directly correlates to you? (obviously sarcasm)

Abortion and businesses are two completely unrelated things.

But it is charming that you think they are.

[Anollasia]

Well, maybe it shouldn't be.

Yes, a woman shouldn't be allowed to choose either. If I say you're aborting that thing, you have no right to choose. Dumb broad, why would you have a right to choose on something that directly correlates to you? (obviously sarcasm)

I'm not female anyway.

[Mavorpen]

Plus, what if most of your potential customers were non-Christians and you missed that opportunity?

Then the Free Market is going to kill your business because you won't be able to afford to stay open. That's capitalism.

Which is why it's much more efficient to just make it illegal and save the resources rather than coddling to the feelings of racists, sexists, etc.

[Royal Hindustan]

Yes, a woman shouldn't be allowed to choose either. If I say you're aborting that thing, you have no right to choose. Dumb broad, why would you have a right to choose on something that directly correlates to you? (obviously sarcasm)

Abortion and businesses are two completely unrelated things.

But it is charming that you think they are.

Of course, but the principal is the same. You have the right to choose your decisions.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yes, yes they do. I sent a source up above, but that is not what this thread is about.

A source that did not say what you believed it did.

No, it is not perfectly acceptable to prohibit them from discriminating. If a business refuses to provide a service, then people can go to another business. Pretty simple here. Where one business will not accept your kind, another certainly will. Problem solved!

Except that's not certain. Moreover, being thrown out of an establishment because of your race or sex or whatever itself constitutes harm.

Also, Public accommodations can mean publicly owned or privately owned or both. This all depending the circumstances. Here is a more official definition. " Within U.S. law, public accommodations are generally defined as entities, both public and private, that are used by the public."
Although they can be used to mean both Private and Public, the 1964 civil rights act ( as mentioned in the first paragraph of the general summary) outlines publically owned facilities.

Don't lie.

An act to...confer jurisdiction upon the district courts of the United States of America to provide injunctive relief against discrimination in public accommodations

THIS IS NOT THE INTENDED QUESTION. WE ARE THREAD JACKING, THE QUESTION WAS SHOULD THEY. BACK ON TOPIC!

Don't shout either.


You are not listening to the points I am making, disregarding the evidence I provide, and you are calling me a liar on baseless claims. I am not going to enter into a fist fight with you.

Also, you should look up the effects of the Religious freedom act, as you do not seem to know much about it.

I am done with responding to you now.

Did you just respond to yourself and stopped replying to yourself?

[Republic of the Cristo]

FIne, if you're so picky that you won't wake up a hour earlier to get to your destination (you know, like most Americans do in their commute), then find a remote place, lock your car doors, and sleep there.

Grow a pair and stop asking for the government to save you. Some people are jerks. That's life.

Most Americans are also homeowners of some sort, and they usually don't travel out of their city to conferences.

People do that all the time. Also, nearly everyone owns a car in America, so you really aren't to hindered in your means of transportation.

[Royal Hindustan]

Then the Free Market is going to kill your business because you won't be able to afford to stay open. That's capitalism.

Which is why it's much more efficient to just make it illegal and save the resources rather than coddling to the feelings of racists, sexists, etc.

You know what else takes money, spending tons of money changing to make it illegal. Let it be.

[Republic of the Cristo]

A source that did not say what you believed it did.


Except that's not certain. Moreover, being thrown out of an establishment because of your race or sex or whatever itself constitutes harm.


Don't lie.



Don't shout either.


You are not listening to the points I am making, disregarding the evidence I provide, and you are calling me a liar on baseless claims. I am not going to enter into a fist fight with you.

Also, you should look up the effects of the Religious freedom act, as you do not seem to know much about it.

I am done with responding to you now.

Did you just respond to yourself and stopped replying to yourself?

No, I cut off one of the quotes too early.

[Mavorpen]

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Also, you should look up the effects of the Religious freedom act, as you do not seem to know much about it.

I am done with responding to you now.

You were wrong when you said they did not.

I never said they didn't have that specific law. I said that they have no laws protecting discrimination. In fact, it explicitly states:

Sec. 0.7. This chapter does not:

8 (I) authorize a provider to refuse to offer or provide services,

9 facilities, use of public accommodations, goods, employment,
10 or housing to any member or members of the general public
11 on the basis of race, color, religion, ancestry, age, national
12 origin, disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or
13 United States military service;
14 (2) establish a defense to a civil action or criminal prosecution
15 for refusal by a provider to offer or provide services, facilities,
16 use of public accommodations, goods, employment, or housing
17 to any member or members of the general public on the basis
18 of race, color, religion, ancestry, age, national origin,
19 disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or United
20 States military service; or
21 (3) negate any rights available under the Constitution of the

Please do actual research.

[BK117B2]

Yes, a woman shouldn't be allowed to choose either. If I say you're aborting that thing, you have no right to choose. Dumb broad, why would you have a right to choose on something that directly correlates to you? (obviously sarcasm)

Abortion and businesses are two completely unrelated things.

But it is charming that you think they are.

Minus the relevant parts: choice, control over one's own body

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Did you just respond to yourself and stopped replying to yourself?

No, I cut off one of the quotes too early.

I looked at the quote chain, it looks like you kinda did just argue with yourself

[Mavorpen]

Which is why it's much more efficient to just make it illegal and save the resources rather than coddling to the feelings of racists, sexists, etc.

You know what else takes money, spending tons of money changing to make it illegal. Let it be.

No thanks, I don't like wasting money supporting racists, sexists, and Homophobes.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Abortion and businesses are two completely unrelated things.

But it is charming that you think they are.

Minus the relevant parts: choice, control over one's own body

Labor =/= control of your body.

Labor is what you do, what you do creates something that's not of your body, but outside of it.

I could ask you to do your job if you were my employee, I couldn't ask you to sell your kidney.

[Republic of the Cristo]

No, I cut off one of the quotes too early.

I looked at the quote chain, you kinda did just argue with yourself

No, I just erased his quote chain on accident so it looked like my writing instead of his.

[Royal Hindustan]

You know what else takes money, spending tons of money changing to make it illegal. Let it be.

No thanks, I don't like wasting money supporting racists, sexists, and Homophobes.

Thing is, you're not wasting money. It doesn't take money to keep the status quo. It does cost money to implement new regulations.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I looked at the quote chain, you kinda did just argue with yourself

No, I just erased his quote chain on accident so it looked like my writing instead of his.

Indeed, can't say you didn't make my night tho.

[Ifreann]

The next hotel, only 50 miles away, eh?

Right.

FIne, if you're so picky that you won't wake up a hour earlier to get to your destination (you know, like most Americans do in their commute), then find a remote place, lock your car doors, and sleep there.

And if you flew to your destination and don't have a car?

Grow a pair and stop asking for the government to save you. Some people are jerks. That's life.

And if racists are upset that the government won't let them throw out all the blacks, well they can just grow a pair and stop asking for the government to save them.

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You are not listening to the points I am making,

I'm reading all of your posts that I respond to.

disregarding the evidence I provide,

Because it has already been refuted.

and you are calling me a liar on baseless claims.

Well either you were lying or you failed to read the paragraph about the Civil Rights Act that you quoted. Either way, you're wrong.

I am not going to enter into a fist fight with you.

I should think not.

Also, you should look up the effects of the Religious freedom act, as you do not seem to know much about it.

Again, it was already pointed out to you that you were wrong about that.

[Royal Hindustan]

Alright here are two ways:

You ban such discrimination: Businesses create a hostile environment, in which people aren't comfortable and business keeps going.

You let it be: You save money, people know which businesses to avoid, those businesses go out of businesses, you win.

Choose one.

[Ifreann]

No thanks, I don't like wasting money supporting racists, sexists, and Homophobes.

Thing is, you're not wasting money. It doesn't take money to keep the status quo. It does cost money to implement new regulations.

Anti-discrimination legislation already exists. It's not new.

[Roski]

The only discrimination I say businesses can do is discriminating against those who don't have the money to buy what they are trying to buy

but that discrimination should only go as far as "I'm sorry we can't let you leave with that"

[BK117B2]

Minus the relevant parts: choice, control over one's own body

Labor =/= control of your body.

Labor is what you do, what you do creates something that's not of your body, but outside of it.

I could ask you to do your job if you were my employee, I couldn't ask you to sell your kidney.

Labor is an action you take with your body. Labor IS about control of one's body.

You can ask me to provide labor and I can say no.