Has the GOP lost all of their sanity?

[Big Jim P]

I think we need five: Far-right, right, center, left, far left.

Why not center left and center right? A purely center or Radical center part would be pretty hard to create.

That would bring us to seven parties.

[Jochistan]

Why not center left and center right? A purely center or Radical center part would be pretty hard to create.

That would bring us to seven parties.

Lucky number.

It must be so.

[Jochistan]

That would bring us to seven parties.

Lucky number.

It must be so.

In seriousness, it would be a good Idea, I think. How to draw the line between center right and just plain right or center left and just plain left has always thrown me.

[Eol Sha]

They should open up more to third parties like they do in Europe.

I think we need five: Far-right, right, center, left, far left.

That'd definitely be interesting. Maybe add two more for center-right and center-left.

[Daburuetchi]

I think we need five: Far-right, right, center, left, far left.

That'd definitely be interesting. Maybe add two more for center-right and center-left.

You can add as many sprinkles as you wan to the ice cream of crapitalim as you want. At the end of the day a rotation in personnel does not change the fact will live in a bourgeois dictatorship

[The Archregimancy]

On the question of sanity in the GOP.

For the love of God, somebody please tell me that this isn't true.

[Eol Sha]

On the question of sanity in the GOP.

For the love of God, somebody please tell me that this isn't true.

He's apparently believed it for quite some time.

[Daburuetchi]

On the question of sanity in the GOP.

For the love of God, somebody please tell me that this isn't true.

He's apparently believed it for quite some time.

The Sphinx was an inside job, The Sea Peoples are really reptilians, aliens built the pyramids and Egypt is lying about Cleopatra, Napoleon and Alexander the Great. Illuminopoly confirmed thx to Ben Carson.

[Conserative Morality]

On the question of sanity in the GOP.

For the love of God, somebody please tell me that this isn't true.

I could tell you that it isn't true, but that'd be about as accurate as Carson's ideas on the pyramids.

[Wallenburg]

On the question of sanity in the GOP.

For the love of God, somebody please tell me that this isn't true.

Can we please just skip the Republican primaries this June and see which Democrat will become President?

[The Archregimancy]

On the question of sanity in the GOP.

For the love of God, somebody please tell me that this isn't true.

I could tell you that it isn't true, but that'd be about as accurate as Carson's ideas on the pyramids.

I have to admit that I'd only been paying loose attention to some of Carson's loonier ideas up until now. Up to this point, I was assuming that some of his crazier statements were deliberate red meat thrown to the party's activist base.

Now it seems that the current poll leader in the Republican race is possibly functionally insane.

Leaving aside this lunacy about the Pyramids, it seems that Dr Carson is also claiming that his lack of political experience shouldn't be an issue because "Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience".

Other, of course, than:

Thomas Jefferson (elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses, 1769)
John Adams (elected to the Massachusetts Assembly, 1770)
Benjamin Franklin (elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly, 1751; Speaker of the latter 1764)
Roger Sherman (elected to the Connecticut General Assembly, 1755)
John Hancock (elected member of Boston Board of Selectmen 1765–1774; elected as President of the Massachusetts Provincial Assembly 1774 & 1775)

And 22 other of the 51 signers of the Declaration, for a total of 27 signers, or more than half of the 'signers of the Declaration of Independence'.


Someone has since amended Carson's Facebook page to read 'every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no Federal elected office experience', which is better since it's at least true, but irrelevant since A) the basic point is a total lack of political experience rather than state/colonial political experience and B) it's impossible to hold an elected office before it exists.

[Tsaraine]

From my twitter feed this evening - "Ben Carson has released a mobile app. Now his followers can arrange themselves into the shape of a pyramid and Stargate to Chulak."

Really, I get the impression that the Know-Nothings would be ashamed of Carson and his ilk.

[Eol Sha]

From my twitter feed this evening - "Ben Carson has released a mobile app. Now his followers can arrange themselves into the shape of a pyramid and Stargate to Chulak."

Really, I get the impression that the Know-Nothings would be ashamed of Carson and his ilk.

I don't know. They believed that Kennedy would hand America over to the Pope.

[Pope Joan]

Yes, I don't understand the antipathy to Huntsman. It seems that one loud objection is that he understands China too well.

Huh? What?

[Tsaraine]

From my twitter feed this evening - "Ben Carson has released a mobile app. Now his followers can arrange themselves into the shape of a pyramid and Stargate to Chulak."

Really, I get the impression that the Know-Nothings would be ashamed of Carson and his ilk.

I don't know. They believed that Kennedy would hand America over to the Pope.

Wait, what? I don't think we're talking about the same people - the Know-Nothings were a political party that ceased to exist over a century before JFK took office (although they were highly anti-Catholic and anti-Irish, so they would have disapproved of Kennedy).

[Wallenburg]

I don't know. They believed that Kennedy would hand America over to the Pope.

Wait, what? I don't think we're talking about the same people - the Know-Nothings were a political party that ceased to exist over a century before JFK took office (although they were highly anti-Catholic and anti-Irish, so they would have disapproved of Kennedy).

Yeah, I was starting to wonder if the American Party went even further underground even into Kennedy's presidency. Perhaps he is referring to those that mirrored their sentiments, since I do recall a lot of fundamentalist outrage at a Catholic being in the White House.

[Eol Sha]

I don't know. They believed that Kennedy would hand America over to the Pope.

Wait, what? I don't think we're talking about the same people - the Know-Nothings were a political party that ceased to exist over a century before JFK took office (although they were highly anti-Catholic and anti-Irish, so they would have disapproved of Kennedy).

I know, but their ideological descendants were still kicking in the 1960 election.

[West Phoencia]

Democrats are worse. Anyone who votes for them are loons with no moral compass.

[Lonely Sage on the Hill]

Tbh I think the election process in the USA needs a major overhaul. But to conclude to that the federal state needs a huge centralization which won't happen without some certain bills and actions.

Until that time, I think the USA is kinda messed up.

[Khadgar]

A partial explaination for why the GOP has gone completely mental recently:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/magaz ... itics&_r=0

tl;dr republican voters overwhelmingly get their information from a very few sources many of which scream about ideological purity and make impossible demands. They're taking True Conservative™ to further extremes constantly and anyone who doesn't measure up is under threat of being primaried.

[Republic of Coldwater]

On the question of sanity in the GOP.

For the love of God, somebody please tell me that this isn't true.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

The man who is placing 1st/2nd in national polls being a conspiracy theorist.

He is literally worse than George McGovern.

[Republic of Coldwater]

A partial explaination for why the GOP has gone completely mental recently:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/magaz ... itics&_r=0

tl;dr republican voters overwhelmingly get their information from a very few sources many of which scream about ideological purity and make impossible demands. They're taking True Conservative™ to further extremes constantly and anyone who doesn't measure up is under threat of being primaried.

To be honest, its less about ideology, but more so about the candidates they support, from Benny to the Donny, we have two of the most batshit insane people in US politics who either tries to play the gentleman card, but is actually quite stupid, or acts like a bombastic retard and recklessly attacks everybody. You then have more reasonable people like John Kasich, Jon Huntsman or Rand Paul, who lack major support, and that is the problem.

[Ashmoria]

On the question of sanity in the GOP.

For the love of God, somebody please tell me that this isn't true.

apparently its a bit of a thing http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/ben-car ... eory-roots

in the US we adore our doctors, especially our surgeons, ESPECIALLY our neuro surgeons so dr carson being a PEDIATRIC neuro surgeon makes him god-like in our eyes. unfortunately we mistake the ability to suck out bits of baby brain as being smart about absolutely everything. the doctors themselves get used to thinking of themselves as all-smart even when they don't bother to do any reading or thinking through of non-medical subjects.

*shrug*

im just hoping that its not going to be a new test of true Christianity. its bad enough that fundamentalists are supposed to believe in a literal garden of eden. we don't need to add pyramidal grain silos onto that.

[Republic of Coldwater]

The Republican party under Jefferson is not the Republican party founded in 1856, they are two different entities that were literally polar opposites.

You do realize that is exactly what I said, and exactly the opposite of what you said in your OP, right?

EDIT: LOL, I mixed up Hamilton and Jefferson. Forgive me, AP US History teachers! Still, the modern Republican Party has absolutely no origins in the Federalists. Hamilton's party died out by James Madison.

I would argue that the policies they supported from 1856-1890 were quite Hamiltonian: central banking, tariffs, government-sponsored corporate monopolies, more power to the federal government, removal of states' rights.

[Republic of Coldwater]

How sad that believing is small government, free enterprise, and individual freedom has become far right.

The Republicans are the ones trying to limit personal freedoms and liberties, and fewer of them support laissez-faire economics and small government than you think.

More of them are willing to support tariffs and oppose free trade, while ending industries such as birth control, how free-market!