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Principal delays vote because results not diverse enough

Postby Jamzmania » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:03 pm

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/S ... 578286.php

When San Francisco middle school principal Lena Van Haren saw which kids on her campus had been elected to the student council, she was disturbed at the lack of diversity among the winners. There were no Latino or black candidates chosen for the top four spots.

Her concern for a representative student government, given the preponderance of students of color at Everett Middle School in the Mission District, may have been understandable. What she did about it, however, swiftly raised a different kind of alarm.

Van Haren decided to withhold the results of the Oct. 9 election for more than a week, saying the school community needed to figure out how to have a more representative government.

“This is complex, but as a parent and a principal, I truly believe it behooves us to be thoughtful about our next steps here so that we can have a diverse student council that is truly representative of all voices at Everett,” she told parents in an e-mail Thursday.

The response was immediate and at times vehement. Parents complained; students were angry. It appeared, some parents argued, that diversity was trumping democracy.

“My criticism of the Everett administration is their good intention got in the way of their common sense,” said parent Todd David. “It’s really, really disturbing to me that withholding the results somehow equals social justice or equity. That is where I totally disconnect. I’m like, ‘Whoa.’”

This was the first time in several years that Everett had held a student election. Votes were cast in homeroom, ensuring that all students voted. There was never any intent to cancel the election or nullify the results, Van Haren said Monday.

“We paused to have a conversation,” she said in an interview. “I never, ever said we wouldn’t share the results or they weren’t good enough.

“This is middle school. It’s not a presidential election,” she said. “It was not about hurting democracy or putting diversity over democracy.”

She said she wanted to wait until there was a plan — created with student input — to increase diversity among student leaders, perhaps by adding positions.

Yet such a route collided with an election process that many see as sacred — in which you don’t fiddle with or try to fix a vote, be it presidential or at a public school.

“The thing that’s so frustrating to me, as a parent and an engaged citizen, is you release the results and then you form committees,” David said. “How can you say, ‘In the name of social justice, we’re going to withhold election results’?”

Under pressure from parents and the district administration, the principal announced the election results Monday afternoon, going class to class with the information.

While there was some diversity among the 10 winners, no English learners were elected, even though they make up about a third of enrollment. African American and Latino students were underrepresented, while white, Asian and mixed-race students, who are in the minority at the school, took the top four spots.

“It’s not OK for a school that is really, really diverse to have the student representatives majority white,” Van Haren said. “The easy thing would have been to announce the results and move on. I intentionally did not choose the easy way because this is so important.”

Several parents vocally supported their principal, saying she had touched on a critical concern.

“I think the principal is great,” said Melissa Daar Carvajal, who has two sons in sixth grade at the school. “I think for me, I’m really glad the school went through the election and kids selected representatives and now they’re looking at how to represent underrepresented students.”

Carvajal said the student election mirrored the real world, where those with more resources and support are more likely to win and wield power.

“Here we are in a school and the same thing happens,” she said. “They’re living in the real world at Everett.”

District officials called the whole situation “a learning opportunity.”

“There are other ways to include all voices,” said school board President Emily Murase. “I think that’s what the school administration is looking into, how to do that.”

Van Haren acknowledged Monday that while she stands behind her effort to increase diversity in student leadership, there was probably a better way to do it.

“Of course I look back and we should have communicated the winners right away,” she said. “I could never have predicted things would get to this point.
“I think,” she added, “it still can be a teachable moment.”


So the students of Everett Middle School, after having been forced to vote for candidates for the school's first election in several years, found that the people that they voted for were too white for the liking of the principal. So to make a point, she delayed the vote results in order to spark some sort of conversation about "diversity." I especially liked the part where she speaks about a "diverse student council that is truly representative of all voices at Everett." She may not realize this, but a white person, a black person, and a Latino person can all like the same candidates, even if they aren't the same skin color!

So, is this principal stupid? Racist? Detached from reality? Was her action outrageous or no biggie? Other comments/concerns?
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Postby Statevia » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:06 pm

This is outrageous.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:06 pm

Viva la revolution!! That is pretty undemocratic. If people want those people in office then that is who they believe will represent them best
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:07 pm

Principal's drunk the Tumblr SJW Kool Aid... Just let democracy ring.
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Postby Nilla Wayfarers » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:08 pm

I just skimmed the article, but what if the school just had a very low percentage of non-white students? That would make it mathematically unlikely for any of the candidates to be of other races. What's the problem, really? If people voted, and those happen to be the results, okay then, move along, deal with it.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:08 pm

Who gives a shit.

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The Serbian Empire wrote:Principal's drunk the Tumblr SJW Kool Aid... Just let democracy ring.

Pretty much this. She may not like the results, but she can't (or at least shouldn't) just throw them out because of that.

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The Serbian Empire wrote:Principal's drunk the Tumblr SJW Kool Aid... Just let democracy ring.

The bell for that has a crack in it though.
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Nilla Wayfarers wrote:I just skimmed the article, but what if the school just had a very low percentage of non-white students? That would make it mathematically unlikely for any of the candidates to be of other races. What's the problem, really? If people voted, and those happen to be the results, okay then, move along, deal with it.

Her concern for a representative student government, given the preponderance of students of color at Everett Middle School in the Mission District, may have been understandable. What she did about it, however, swiftly raised a different kind of alarm.

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Merizoc wrote:Who gives a shit.

Obviously the person who posted the thread, and the parents and students who complained.
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Postby Bering » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:09 pm

Merizoc wrote:Who gives a shit.

Also a very good point

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Bering wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Principal's drunk the Tumblr SJW Kool Aid... Just let democracy ring.

Pretty much this. She may not like the results, but she can't (or at least shouldn't) just throw them out because of that.

She only proves that society will resist more by the likes of her wiping out the results of this election.
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Merizoc wrote:
Nilla Wayfarers wrote:I just skimmed the article, but what if the school just had a very low percentage of non-white students? That would make it mathematically unlikely for any of the candidates to be of other races. What's the problem, really? If people voted, and those happen to be the results, okay then, move along, deal with it.

Her concern for a representative student government, given the preponderance of students of color at Everett Middle School in the Mission District, may have been understandable. What she did about it, however, swiftly raised a different kind of alarm.

Good to know. Still, eliminating the democratic process is counterproductive.
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Bering wrote:Pretty much this. She may not like the results, but she can't (or at least shouldn't) just throw them out because of that.

She only proves that society will resist more by the likes of her wiping out the results of this election.

Plus her decision is racist in and of itself. Who says a white can't be represented by a black or the other way around?
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Students: Guess what? We want white people!
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Students: But...
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Postby Lyras » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:18 pm

Be diverse. Whether you want to or not. Because if you vote for someone who is white, regardless of whether you are yourself black, Asian, white or Latino, then you are obviously being racist, or something...

Representation does not have to be racially-identical to the voter, surely? Or is this a knee-jerk MUST HAZ MORE DIVERSE thing...
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The Serbian Empire wrote:She only proves that society will resist more by the likes of her wiping out the results of this election.

Plus her decision is racist in and of itself. Who says a white can't be represented by a black or the other way around?

It's irony at it's finest. She accuses the whole student body of racism while making actions that are inherently racist.
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Lyras wrote:Be diverse. Whether you want to or not. Because if you vote for someone who is white, regardless of whether you are yourself black, Asian, white or Latino, then you are obviously being racist, or something...

Representation does not have to be racially-identical to the voter, surely? Or is this a knee-jerk MUST HAZ MORE DIVERSE thing...

Well what do you expect with the current socio-political climate?
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Postby Mirtland » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:21 pm

Funny, it just goes to show how stupid people are.
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The Alexanderians wrote:Plus her decision is racist in and of itself. Who says a white can't be represented by a black or the other way around?

It's irony at it's finest. She accuses the whole student body of racism while making actions that are inherently racist.

But in the end, it will all somehow work out, right? Forcing people to vote the way you want has never led to bad things.

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:22 pm

Plot twist: Most of the Latino and black kids voted for the white, Asian, and mixed race candidates.

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Napkiraly wrote:Plot twist: Most of the Latino and black kids voted for the white, Asian, and mixed race candidates.

Let's not get crazy here. Clearly voter suppression at work
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:24 pm

So apparently subverting the democratic process is alright as long as it's in the name of diversity? America has gone from "you can't vote because you are black" to "you can't vote because there are no blacks".
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Postby Ithra » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:27 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:So apparently subverting the democratic process is alright as long as it's in the name of diversity? America has gone from "you can't vote because you are black" to "you can't vote because there are no blacks".

Just wait for it to come full circle
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