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Postby Grenartia » Thu May 12, 2016 9:49 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:And for me, the secretive behavior of clothing disappearing was a warning sign.


I think its my vehement pleading of the Fifth whenever my mother/father tries to get me to talk about the NC bill that might be a bit of a hint.


See, I talk openly about this stuff anyways, despite totally being in the closet with my grandparents. If for no other reason than because I can always say "you don't have to be black to support racial equality, so why would you think I'm LGBT just for supporting LGBT equality?".
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu May 12, 2016 9:49 am

Grenartia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
I think its my vehement pleading of the Fifth whenever my mother/father tries to get me to talk about the NC bill that might be a bit of a hint.


See, I talk openly about this stuff anyways, despite totally being in the closet with my grandparents. If for no other reason than because I can always say "you don't have to be black to support racial equality, so why would you think I'm LGBT just for supporting LGBT equality?".


I just reall don't want to be asked "Why do you care?" because I'm aweful at lying.
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Postby Grenartia » Thu May 12, 2016 9:52 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
See, I talk openly about this stuff anyways, despite totally being in the closet with my grandparents. If for no other reason than because I can always say "you don't have to be black to support racial equality, so why would you think I'm LGBT just for supporting LGBT equality?".


I just reall don't want to be asked "Why do you care?" because I'm aweful at lying.


You can just give an answer that's vaguely true, like "because everybody deserves equal rights" or something.

See, my entire life, as far as my grandparents are concerned, is a lie.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu May 12, 2016 9:56 am

Grenartia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
I just reall don't want to be asked "Why do you care?" because I'm aweful at lying.


You can just give an answer that's vaguely true, like "because everybody deserves equal rights" or something.

See, my entire life, as far as my grandparents are concerned, is a lie.


I feel like my parents are smart enough to see through that. Besides, the ammount of struggle it takes to not refer to myself as female is any indicator, I'd probably blurt out something really stupid.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu May 12, 2016 9:59 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:And for me, the secretive behavior of clothing disappearing was a warning sign.


I think its my vehement pleading of the Fifth whenever my mother/father tries to get me to talk about the NC bill that might be a bit of a hint.

Through close observation of body language one could have seen it from a mile away, but nobody took notice until the stuff started to disappear.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu May 12, 2016 10:09 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
I think its my vehement pleading of the Fifth whenever my mother/father tries to get me to talk about the NC bill that might be a bit of a hint.

Through close observation of body language one could have seen it from a mile away, but nobody took notice until the stuff started to disappear.


Body language may be part of the suspicion. For example I instictively cross my legs when I sit.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu May 12, 2016 10:14 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Through close observation of body language one could have seen it from a mile away, but nobody took notice until the stuff started to disappear.


Body language may be part of the suspicion. For example I instictively cross my legs when I sit.

My mom didn't think anything was off about that and that I emulated her out of respect. Now swiping clothes suggested that I was more than just emulating my role model.
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Postby Britannia and the Netherlands » Thu May 12, 2016 10:16 am

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Britannia and the Netherlands wrote:A giant crab got her in '09. Get it? Because the constellation Cancer is a crab? heh. But thanks for the advice. Sorry to bother y'all.


This is what the thread's for. By all means stick around if you want.

Right then. *plants flag, sits down, eats cheetos*
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu May 12, 2016 10:18 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Body language may be part of the suspicion. For example I instictively cross my legs when I sit.

My mom didn't think anything was off about that and that I emulated her out of respect. Now swiping clothes suggested that I was more than just emulating my role model.


I try to actively avoid emulating my mom, for obvious reasons. My personality is pretty contradictory though. Lots of things about me are feminine, but then I turn around and like football.
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Postby Grenartia » Thu May 12, 2016 4:09 pm

Britannia and the Netherlands wrote:
Philjia wrote:
This is what the thread's for. By all means stick around if you want.

Right then. *plants flag, sits down, eats cheetos*


Just wash your hands before touching the remote or the contrllers. Few things are more disgusting than cheeto dust on important electronics.

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The Serbian Empire wrote:My mom didn't think anything was off about that and that I emulated her out of respect. Now swiping clothes suggested that I was more than just emulating my role model.


I try to actively avoid emulating my mom, for obvious reasons. My personality is pretty contradictory though. Lots of things about me are feminine, but then I turn around and like football.


My mom likes football. Js.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 12, 2016 4:42 pm

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu May 12, 2016 4:44 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
I try to actively avoid emulating my mom, for obvious reasons. My personality is pretty contradictory though. Lots of things about me are feminine, but then I turn around and like football.


My mom likes football. Js.


I love footbll tbh. Im not even embarassed.
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Thu May 12, 2016 5:14 pm

My mom agreed to a name change, but doesn't like the name I've chosen. I agree that it's not quite right, so I'm back to searching for a name.
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Postby Veceria » Thu May 12, 2016 5:16 pm

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:My mom agreed to a name change, but doesn't like the name I've chosen. I agree that it's not quite right, so I'm back to searching for a name.

Ask her what names she likes.
Maybe theres one you both like.
Its like naming your kid.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu May 12, 2016 5:32 pm

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:My mom agreed to a name change, but doesn't like the name I've chosen. I agree that it's not quite right, so I'm back to searching for a name.


Anything you are looking for in a name? Is there a family member you want to be named after? Or a family friend/ friend? DO you want a religious sounding name? Or a cultural name?
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Postby Grenartia » Thu May 12, 2016 5:34 pm

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:My mom agreed to a name change, but doesn't like the name I've chosen. I agree that it's not quite right, so I'm back to searching for a name.


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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu May 12, 2016 5:40 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:My mom didn't think anything was off about that and that I emulated her out of respect. Now swiping clothes suggested that I was more than just emulating my role model.


I try to actively avoid emulating my mom, for obvious reasons. My personality is pretty contradictory though. Lots of things about me are feminine, but then I turn around and like football.

For me, mimicking my mom would be better than emulating girls around my town.
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Thu May 12, 2016 5:51 pm

Veceria wrote:
Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:My mom agreed to a name change, but doesn't like the name I've chosen. I agree that it's not quite right, so I'm back to searching for a name.

Ask her what names she likes.
Maybe theres one you both like.
Its like naming your kid.


We looked a bit earlier. She likes Jared,
And Alexander and David as middle names, but I don't particularly like Jared or David. Not really liking Alexander either, but I'm way too obsessed with Alexander Hamilton.
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Postby Veceria » Thu May 12, 2016 5:53 pm

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
Veceria wrote:Ask her what names she likes.
Maybe theres one you both like.
Its like naming your kid.


We looked a bit earlier. She likes Jared,
And Alexander and David as middle names, but I don't particularly like Jared or David. Not really liking Alexander either, but I'm way too obsessed with Alexander Hamilton.

What about Daniel?

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I don't particularly like Jared or David

I don't like you either! >:[
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Thu May 12, 2016 5:53 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:My mom agreed to a name change, but doesn't like the name I've chosen. I agree that it's not quite right, so I'm back to searching for a name.


Anything you are looking for in a name? Is there a family member you want to be named after? Or a family friend/ friend? DO you want a religious sounding name? Or a cultural name?


First name has to be something Jay can be a nickname for. No religious names or family names.
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Thu May 12, 2016 5:54 pm

Veceria wrote:
Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
We looked a bit earlier. She likes Jared,
And Alexander and David as middle names, but I don't particularly like Jared or David. Not really liking Alexander either, but I'm way too obsessed with Alexander Hamilton.

What about Daniel?

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I don't particularly like Jared or David

I don't like you either! >:[
:P


I know someone named Daniel that I really don't like.
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Postby Veceria » Thu May 12, 2016 5:55 pm

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Anything you are looking for in a name? Is there a family member you want to be named after? Or a family friend/ friend? DO you want a religious sounding name? Or a cultural name?


First name has to be something Jay can be a nickname for. No religious names or family names.

Jason? Jaiden? Johannes?
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Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

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Postby Noraika » Thu May 12, 2016 8:28 pm

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:My mom agreed to a name change, but doesn't like the name I've chosen. I agree that it's not quite right, so I'm back to searching for a name.

Heh, my mother told me that even if I transition fully she'll never change how she refers to me a 'he/his' or by my male name, and I'm pretty sure she speaks for the whole family. So that means, any contact with them would be outing myself later on. I guess a benefit to that was that I didn't have to consult her about the name I picked.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Thu May 12, 2016 8:33 pm

Sorry y'all have had some unpleasantness in here. Seems like there's always someone, neh?

No idea if any of you've seen, or how many of you might have seen this little gem - I thought it a rather ingenious way of addressing the transition of this group's lead singer. For those offended by such, there's a bit of language at the end, but hey. Brilliant all the same.

Hang in there folks - I hope things are going more smoothly for some of you from the last time I'd dropped in. Hope this isn't out of place.

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Postby Alvecia » Fri May 13, 2016 1:11 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Sorry y'all have had some unpleasantness in here. Seems like there's always someone, neh?

No idea if any of you've seen, or how many of you might have seen this little gem - I thought it a rather ingenious way of addressing the transition of this group's lead singer. For those offended by such, there's a bit of language at the end, but hey. Brilliant all the same.

Hang in there folks - I hope things are going more smoothly for some of you from the last time I'd dropped in. Hope this isn't out of place.

Axis of Awsome! Good on her. Hilarious song as well.

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