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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:37 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok, as promised, here's a list of resources to help you all, gals and boys, find your voice. :3

Article on voice therapy for transgender people, and why it is important to find your voice.



Resources for MtF and FtM voice therapy

Tara's Voice.
Voice lessons from YouTuber Letsflybutterfly (Lesson 1). MtF.
Lessons from YouTuber Audrey Jocelyn. MtF. Excellent, IMO.
EVA for both MtF and FtM. This is a mobile and tablet app. According to ratings, it seems to be excellent. It costs $4.99 (US)/£3.19/4.39 euros/6.44 CAD (prices may vary, of course), and it's available at the Apple Store and at GooglePlay. Currently unavailable for Amazon KIndle Marketplace.
Trans Road Map: list of voice therapy resources, for MtF and FtM.
Voice training, both MtF and FtM.
Spectrogram for finding MtF voice, requires additional download, which seems to be free. Approach with care.
FtM voice exercises by Youtuber Tony Doubek.



I'll add more links as I keep finding them. Hope this list helps. <3


Thank you soooo much.<3


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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok, as promised, here's a list of resources to help you all, gals and boys, find your voice. :3

Article on voice therapy for transgender people, and why it is important to find your voice.



Resources for MtF and FtM voice therapy

Tara's Voice.
Voice lessons from YouTuber Letsflybutterfly (Lesson 1). MtF.
Lessons from YouTuber Audrey Jocelyn. MtF. Excellent, IMO.
EVA for both MtF and FtM. This is a mobile and tablet app. According to ratings, it seems to be excellent. It costs $4.99 (US)/£3.19/4.39 euros/6.44 CAD (prices may vary, of course), and it's available at the Apple Store and at GooglePlay. Currently unavailable for Amazon KIndle Marketplace.
Trans Road Map: list of voice therapy resources, for MtF and FtM.
Voice training, both MtF and FtM.
Spectrogram for finding MtF voice, requires additional download, which seems to be free. Approach with care.
FtM voice exercises by Youtuber Tony Doubek.



I'll add more links as I keep finding them. Hope this list helps. <3

Yay... I have some resources!


You're all welcome. Hope the resources help.
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Postby Val Halla » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:39 pm

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Do you have a lot of leg hair? (don't answer if you'd rather not)

I have more than my 35 year old father 3:
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:48 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Do you have a lot of leg hair? (don't answer if you'd rather not)

I have more than my 35 year old father 3:


In that case:
Tip 1: use a buffering sponge and buff your legs prior to shaving.
Tip 2: you can trim the hair first, if it's too plentiful, using an electric shaver.
Tip 3: before applying shaving gel/foam, wash your legs with mild soap and warm water.
Tip 4: you can also use hair removing creams to get rid of a large portion of the hair to make it easier to shave with a razor.
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Postby Val Halla » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:50 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I have more than my 35 year old father 3:


In that case:
Tip 1: use a buffering sponge and buff your legs prior to shaving.
Tip 2: you can trim the hair first, if it's too plentiful, using an electric shaver.
Tip 3: before applying shaving gel/foam, wash your legs with mild soap and warm water.
Tip 4: you can also use hair removing creams to get rid of a large portion of the hair to make it easier to shave with a razor.

Will there be blood? And what is a "Buffering sponge"?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:53 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
In that case:
Tip 1: use a buffering sponge and buff your legs prior to shaving.
Tip 2: you can trim the hair first, if it's too plentiful, using an electric shaver.
Tip 3: before applying shaving gel/foam, wash your legs with mild soap and warm water.
Tip 4: you can also use hair removing creams to get rid of a large portion of the hair to make it easier to shave with a razor.

Will there be blood? And what is a "Buffering sponge"?

Possibly, I've cut the back of my knee when shaving. And the odds of irritation are far greater still.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:53 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
In that case:
Tip 1: use a buffering sponge and buff your legs prior to shaving.
Tip 2: you can trim the hair first, if it's too plentiful, using an electric shaver.
Tip 3: before applying shaving gel/foam, wash your legs with mild soap and warm water.
Tip 4: you can also use hair removing creams to get rid of a large portion of the hair to make it easier to shave with a razor.

Will there be blood? And what is a "Buffering sponge"?


If you press too hard, you may nick the skin and cut so yes, there could be a little blood. Just be careful.
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Postby Val Halla » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Will there be blood? And what is a "Buffering sponge"?


If you press too hard, you may nick the skin and cut so yes, there could be a little blood. Just be careful.

And the latter question?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:55 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
If you press too hard, you may nick the skin and cut so yes, there could be a little blood. Just be careful.

And the latter question?


This: http://cosmetic-candy.com/wp-content/up ... Buffer.jpg
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:52 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok, as promised, here's a list of resources to help you all, gals and boys, find your voice. :3

Article on voice therapy for transgender people, and why it is important to find your voice.



Resources for MtF and FtM voice therapy

Tara's Voice.
Voice lessons from YouTuber Letsflybutterfly (Lesson 1). MtF.
Lessons from YouTuber Audrey Jocelyn. MtF. Excellent, IMO.
EVA for both MtF and FtM. This is a mobile and tablet app. According to ratings, it seems to be excellent. It costs $4.99 (US)/£3.19/4.39 euros/6.44 CAD (prices may vary, of course), and it's available at the Apple Store and at GooglePlay. Currently unavailable for Amazon KIndle Marketplace.
Trans Road Map: list of voice therapy resources, for MtF and FtM.
Voice training, both MtF and FtM.
Spectrogram for finding MtF voice, requires additional download, which seems to be free. Approach with care.
FtM voice exercises by Youtuber Tony Doubek.



I'll add more links as I keep finding them. Hope this list helps. <3

It would be great if this could get added to the OP (Geanna?)

I also have this one: Vocal Androgyny in Speech and Singing.
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Postby Mirakai » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:09 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok, as promised, here's a list of resources to help you all, gals and boys, find your voice. :3

Article on voice therapy for transgender people, and why it is important to find your voice.



Resources for MtF and FtM voice therapy

Tara's Voice.
Voice lessons from YouTuber Letsflybutterfly (Lesson 1). MtF.
Lessons from YouTuber Audrey Jocelyn. MtF. Excellent, IMO.
EVA for both MtF and FtM. This is a mobile and tablet app. According to ratings, it seems to be excellent. It costs $4.99 (US)/£3.19/4.39 euros/6.44 CAD (prices may vary, of course), and it's available at the Apple Store and at GooglePlay. Currently unavailable for Amazon KIndle Marketplace.
Trans Road Map: list of voice therapy resources, for MtF and FtM.
Voice training, both MtF and FtM.
Spectrogram for finding MtF voice, requires additional download, which seems to be free. Approach with care.
FtM voice exercises by Youtuber Tony Doubek.



I'll add more links as I keep finding them. Hope this list helps. <3

*squee of excitement*

I'll definitely be checking these out
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:26 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok, as promised, here's a list of resources to help you all, gals and boys, find your voice. :3

Article on voice therapy for transgender people, and why it is important to find your voice.



Resources for MtF and FtM voice therapy

Tara's Voice.
Voice lessons from YouTuber Letsflybutterfly (Lesson 1). MtF.
Lessons from YouTuber Audrey Jocelyn. MtF. Excellent, IMO.
EVA for both MtF and FtM. This is a mobile and tablet app. According to ratings, it seems to be excellent. It costs $4.99 (US)/£3.19/4.39 euros/6.44 CAD (prices may vary, of course), and it's available at the Apple Store and at GooglePlay. Currently unavailable for Amazon KIndle Marketplace.
Trans Road Map: list of voice therapy resources, for MtF and FtM.
Voice training, both MtF and FtM.
Spectrogram for finding MtF voice, requires additional download, which seems to be free. Approach with care.
FtM voice exercises by Youtuber Tony Doubek.

Addenda:
Options. This PDF briefly explains goals of voice therapy and surgical options for transgender men and women have in order to achieve their voices.
List of voice therapists for transgender people (by country: Canada, UK, South Africa and Australia). It also has a list of therapists by state (US). Some states lack resources however.
Approach of Transgender voice therapy.



I'll add more links as I keep finding them. Hope this list helps. <3


Updated list.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:10 pm

@ Geanna:

I found an interesting article on trans allies and I was wondering if you think it pertinent for me to post it.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:17 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok, as promised, here's a list of resources to help you all, gals and boys, find your voice. :3

Article on voice therapy for transgender people, and why it is important to find your voice.



Resources for MtF and FtM voice therapy

Tara's Voice.
Voice lessons from YouTuber Letsflybutterfly (Lesson 1). MtF.
Lessons from YouTuber Audrey Jocelyn. MtF. Excellent, IMO.
EVA for both MtF and FtM. This is a mobile and tablet app. According to ratings, it seems to be excellent. It costs $4.99 (US)/£3.19/4.39 euros/6.44 CAD (prices may vary, of course), and it's available at the Apple Store and at GooglePlay. Currently unavailable for Amazon KIndle Marketplace.
Trans Road Map: list of voice therapy resources, for MtF and FtM.
Voice training, both MtF and FtM.
Spectrogram for finding MtF voice, requires additional download, which seems to be free. Approach with care.
FtM voice exercises by Youtuber Tony Doubek.

Addenda:
Options. This PDF briefly explains goals of voice therapy and surgical options for transgender men and women have in order to achieve their voices.
List of voice therapists for transgender people (by country: Canada, UK, South Africa and Australia). It also has a list of therapists by state (US). Some states lack resources however.
Approach of Transgender voice therapy.



I'll add more links as I keep finding them. Hope this list helps. <3


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Postby Grenartia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:19 am

Mirakai wrote:
Val Halla wrote:It just ran over them. Didn't actually shave them.

You need to apply pressure. It's going to hurt. A lot


While its true that you should apply pressure, if you're applying so much that it hurts, you're doing it wrong.
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Postby Val Halla » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:20 am

I'm scared I will make a mess, what with my parents and all
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:21 am

Grenartia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok, as promised, here's a list of resources to help you all, gals and boys, find your voice. :3

Article on voice therapy for transgender people, and why it is important to find your voice.



Resources for MtF and FtM voice therapy

Tara's Voice.
Voice lessons from YouTuber Letsflybutterfly (Lesson 1). MtF.
Lessons from YouTuber Audrey Jocelyn. MtF. Excellent, IMO.
EVA for both MtF and FtM. This is a mobile and tablet app. According to ratings, it seems to be excellent. It costs $4.99 (US)/£3.19/4.39 euros/6.44 CAD (prices may vary, of course), and it's available at the Apple Store and at GooglePlay. Currently unavailable for Amazon KIndle Marketplace.
Trans Road Map: list of voice therapy resources, for MtF and FtM.
Voice training, both MtF and FtM.
Spectrogram for finding MtF voice, requires additional download, which seems to be free. Approach with care.
FtM voice exercises by Youtuber Tony Doubek.

Addenda:
Options. This PDF briefly explains goals of voice therapy and surgical options for transgender men and women have in order to achieve their voices.
List of voice therapists for transgender people (by country: Canada, UK, South Africa and Australia). It also has a list of therapists by state (US). Some states lack resources however.
Approach of Transgender voice therapy.



I'll add more links as I keep finding them. Hope this list helps. <3


Nana, this is McFucking amazing.


I really hope it helps. :)
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:24 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:@ Geanna:

I found an interesting article on trans allies and I was wondering if you think it pertinent for me to post it.


I say go for it.

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Something I do to minimize drain cloggage, is to only do relatively small areas at a time. Like, one day, do the crotch region, the next, do the thighs, after that, the lower legs, and from there, generally all over, getting any spots that have been missed, and generally finetuning the shave job, along with touchups as hair regrows.
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Postby Val Halla » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:25 am

Grenartia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:@ Geanna:

I found an interesting article on trans allies and I was wondering if you think it pertinent for me to post it.


I say go for it.

Val Halla wrote:I'm scared I will make a mess, what with my parents and all


Something I do to minimize drain cloggage, is to only do relatively small areas at a time. Like, one day, do the crotch region, the next, do the thighs, after that, the lower legs, and from there, generally all over, getting any spots that have been missed, and generally finetuning the shave job, along with touchups as hair regrows.

I was thinking the blood.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:27 am

Ok, not sure if anyone has ever read this article, but I was doing that earlier today and it felt like it was an eye opener. Since there are people who follow this thread who aren't transgender, agender or non-binary, I felt that this article brings some very interesting and helpful points for those of us who are allies.

We need to be more proactive. Being an ally is not just saying ''yes, I accept trans people''. That's just the tip of the iceberg and I thought this was too good not to share.


Actually, nevermind. This is already linked in the OP. Sorry. :oops:
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Postby Ithqington » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:11 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ok, not sure if anyone has ever read this article, but I was doing that earlier today and it felt like it was an eye opener. Since there are people who follow this thread who aren't transgender, agender or non-binary, I felt that this article brings some very interesting and helpful points for those of us who are allies.

We need to be more proactive. Being an ally is not just saying ''yes, I accept trans people''. That's just the tip of the iceberg and I thought this was too good not to share.


Actually, nevermind. This is already linked in the OP. Sorry. :oops:

Don't worry about that

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Postby Grenartia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:15 am

Val Halla wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I say go for it.



Something I do to minimize drain cloggage, is to only do relatively small areas at a time. Like, one day, do the crotch region, the next, do the thighs, after that, the lower legs, and from there, generally all over, getting any spots that have been missed, and generally finetuning the shave job, along with touchups as hair regrows.

I was thinking the blood.


I've literally never had that problem. I've only cut myself once while shaving anywhere, and that was on my face, when I was dry shaving.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:00 am

Grenartia wrote:
Mirakai wrote:You need to apply pressure. It's going to hurt. A lot


While its true that you should apply pressure, if you're applying so much that it hurts, you're doing it wrong.

^ This. If you have a lot of hair, don't try to scrape it all off at once. Do it gradually, even if it takes an hour (you can do it in multiple segments if need be). Once you start to do it regularly, it's only a matter of shaving off the short hairs as they grow, like any other place you might shave. And yes, chances are you may cut yourself a few times, but it shouldn't hurt that much -- it's like a papercut. And if you have a million cuts, you're doing it wrong.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:03 am

Grenartia wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I was thinking the blood.


I've literally never had that problem. I've only cut myself once while shaving anywhere, and that was on my face, when I was dry shaving.

And mine was only when shaving over a stretch mark area. The skin's thinner there to begin with since it's been stretched.
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