California Governor signs "right to die" law

[Tinfect]

Hmm. I'm trying to decide which is the worst: Hell, Galt's Gulch, or California in August.

Are you implying that they are not the same place?

Anyways, we digress. I'm glad California will see this new law.

Oh, yeah, no, this is absolutely good news. I've been hoping for this for some time now.

[Confederate Ramenia]

Hmm. I'm trying to decide which is the worst: Hell, Galt's Gulch, or California in August.

Are you implying that they are not the same place?

California is objectivist dystopia? I've heard California called a socialist dystopia, but never an objectivist dystopia. And California isn't really that bad in August. At the worst it's just 40 degrees Celsius.

[Tinfect]

Are you implying that they are not the same place?

California is objectivist dystopia? I've heard California called a socialist dystopia, but never an objectivist dystopia. And California isn't really that bad in August. At the worst it's just 40 degrees Celsius.

*Googles Galt's Gulch*

Oh.
I though you were referring to a place in Galt. It's not far (Only about 20 Miles) from here.

[Confederate Ramenia]

California is objectivist dystopia? I've heard California called a socialist dystopia, but never an objectivist dystopia. And California isn't really that bad in August. At the worst it's just 40 degrees Celsius.

*Googles Galt's Gulch*

Oh.
I though you were referring to a place in Galt. It's not far (Only about 20 Miles) from here.

Oh, I didn't know that. Is there a gulch in Galt? Are the people of Galt objectivists?

[Luziyca]

I support the right to die if the person, and only the person makes a reasonable decision to end their life in emergencies like this.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Good on California. Kudos.

[Tinfect]

Oh, I didn't know that. Is there a gulch in Galt? Are the people of Galt objectivists?

Not that I know of, I don't go up there very often.

[Grainne Ni Malley]

Back in 2012 when I was diagnosed with Stage 3C ovarian cancer this was not an option in California. I am currently in remission after a hard fought battle so yay. Still, I am fully aware that it could come back and I am also at high risk for breast cancer, which is what killed my aunt. There may very well come a time where my cancer, or a different kind takes over and brings me to a full confrontation with my own mortality. About a year ago I watched the story of Brittany Maynard unfold; how she went to Oregon to die with her family by her side. I looked down the road to my possible future and decided that if it ever came down to it I would move to Oregon.

Some months later my beloved dog, Mr. T-Rex, got a cancer that spread rapidly and we had to put him to sleep. At the time I held him, thought of all the good times we had together and bawled. It broke my heart, but I felt relieved that he wouldn't be hurting. Afterwards I found myself wondering why we allow our animals to go peacefully with minimal suffering, but it becomes a much bigger issue when we think about human beings in the same scenario. I considered how we make this decision for living beings that can't state their desire to live, or die. How we consider it a kindness for our pets to not keep them suffering and make the decision to quietly end their lives accordingly. Here we have people saying quite clearly that they wish to have that same kindness available to them should they reach the point where any chance of surviving their illness is slim to nonexistent and their suffering has become cruel. I am beyond relieved to have this choice now legally available in the state where I reside. As long as my chances of fighting cancer should it come back and surviving are fair to good, I will fight tooth and nail. However, if ever there comes a time where I have to make the choice between lying in a hospital bed in miserable pain just to stick around until death takes me while my family has to stand by and watch, or go out as peacefully as possible on my own terms... best believe I am going to ask for this mercy.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Back in 2012 when I was diagnosed with Stage 3C ovarian cancer this was not an option in California. I am currently in remission after a hard fought battle so yay. Still, I am fully aware that it could come back and I am also at high risk for breast cancer, which is what killed my aunt. There may very well come a time where my cancer, or a different kind takes over and brings me to a full confrontation with my own mortality. About a year ago I watched the story of Brittany Maynard unfold; how she went to Oregon to die with her family by her side. I looked down the road to my possible future and decided that if it ever came down to it I would move to Oregon.

Some months later my beloved dog, Mr. T-Rex, got a cancer that spread rapidly and we had to put him to sleep. At the time I held him, thought of all the good times we had together and bawled. It broke my heart, but I felt relieved that he wouldn't be hurting. Afterwards I found myself wondering why we allow our animals to go peacefully with minimal suffering, but it becomes a much bigger issue when we think about human beings in the same scenario. I considered how we make this decision for living beings that can't state their desire to live, or die. How we consider it a kindness for our pets to not keep them suffering and make the decision to quietly end their lives accordingly. Here we have people saying quite clearly that they wish to have that same kindness available to them should they reach the point where any chance of surviving their illness is slim to nonexistent and their suffering has become cruel. I am beyond relieved to have this choice now legally available in the state where I reside. As long as my chances of fighting cancer should it come back and surviving are fair to good, I will fight tooth and nail. However, if ever there comes a time where I have to make the choice between lying in a hospital be in miserable pain just to stick around until death takes me while my family has to stand by and watch, or go out as peacefully as possible on my own terms... best believe I am going to ask for this mercy.

It's incredible that, as a society, we extend such a mercy to animals, but we do not extend it to humans suffering from incurable, terminal illnesses or who have, after a long battle with mental illnesses, grown tired and just wish to put it all to an end.

I know many people oppose the latter, and I sympathize, but the right to die, at least for me, should not be only extended to the terminally ill.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

The Catholic Church should at least realise that what they deem moral should not be law, otherwise, how are good Catholics able to make the Vatican approved choice of, say, not ending their own life.

[Wallenburg]

The Catholic Church should at least realise that what they deem moral should not be law, otherwise, how are good Catholics able to make the Vatican approved choice of, say, not ending their own life.

Where did you pull Catholicism from? California--like most of America--is largely Protestant.

[Eol Sha]

The Catholic Church should at least realise that what they deem moral should not be law, otherwise, how are good Catholics able to make the Vatican approved choice of, say, not ending their own life.

Where did you pull Catholicism from? California--like most of America--is largely Protestant.

The article mentioned the Church. Plus Governor Brown is Catholic and was lobbied by them.

Actually Catholics and Protestants are nearly identical in California's demographic makeup.

[Grainne Ni Malley]

Back in 2012 when I was diagnosed with Stage 3C ovarian cancer this was not an option in California. I am currently in remission after a hard fought battle so yay. Still, I am fully aware that it could come back and I am also at high risk for breast cancer, which is what killed my aunt. There may very well come a time where my cancer, or a different kind takes over and brings me to a full confrontation with my own mortality. About a year ago I watched the story of Brittany Maynard unfold; how she went to Oregon to die with her family by her side. I looked down the road to my possible future and decided that if it ever came down to it I would move to Oregon.

Some months later my beloved dog, Mr. T-Rex, got a cancer that spread rapidly and we had to put him to sleep. At the time I held him, thought of all the good times we had together and bawled. It broke my heart, but I felt relieved that he wouldn't be hurting. Afterwards I found myself wondering why we allow our animals to go peacefully with minimal suffering, but it becomes a much bigger issue when we think about human beings in the same scenario. I considered how we make this decision for living beings that can't state their desire to live, or die. How we consider it a kindness for our pets to not keep them suffering and make the decision to quietly end their lives accordingly. Here we have people saying quite clearly that they wish to have that same kindness available to them should they reach the point where any chance of surviving their illness is slim to nonexistent and their suffering has become cruel. I am beyond relieved to have this choice now legally available in the state where I reside. As long as my chances of fighting cancer should it come back and surviving are fair to good, I will fight tooth and nail. However, if ever there comes a time where I have to make the choice between lying in a hospital be in miserable pain just to stick around until death takes me while my family has to stand by and watch, or go out as peacefully as possible on my own terms... best believe I am going to ask for this mercy.

It's incredible that, as a society, we extend such a mercy to animals, but we do not extend it to humans suffering from incurable, terminal illnesses or who have, after a long battle with mental illnesses, grown tired and just wish to put it all to an end.

I know many people oppose the latter, and I sympathize, but the right to die, at least for me, should not be only extended to the terminally ill.

That isn't an easy consideration. Personally I think, for now, it should be limited to the terminally ill who are suffering. Sort of like testing the waters so that this relatively new system doesn't get abused, or used wrongly. I am trying to think of other situations where it would be considered merciful, but I am stuck. Either way I think there should be heavy counseling and informative means to consider the best options on a case-by-case basis.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

The Catholic Church should at least realise that what they deem moral should not be law, otherwise, how are good Catholics able to make the Vatican approved choice of, say, not ending their own life.

Where did you pull Catholicism from? California--like most of America--is largely Protestant.

The article specifically states that the Catholic Church petitioned to Gov. Brown.

[Wallenburg]

The article mentioned the Church. Plus Governor Brown is Catholic and was lobbied by them.

Actually Catholics and Protestants are nearly identical in California's demographic makeup.

The article specifically states that the Catholic Church petitioned to Gov. Brown.

Heh-heh. My bad, I skimmed the OP. Carry on.