USSR or Third Reich

[Kazarogkai]

The worst place you can be though out of all countries during the war was Estonia. Not only was it brutally occupied twice but the highest estimates show as much as 20% of the population died. Mostly civilians I presume, but honestly dying as a civilian(in my view) doesn't sound a whole lot better than dying as a soldier.

The country with the highest percentage of civilian deaths (25 % of the prewar population) is usually estimated to be Belarus.

Belarus wasn't an independent country, it was a constituent republic within the USSR as such it's casualties are counted alongside the rest of the USSR casualties.

I was counting overall deaths.

[Sino nations]

Hitler Would Kill More Than Stalin.Why? Because Hitler Would kill Most Russians,Adding Atleast 50 million To Death toll.Then Jews,9 million.Hitler Would Kill Atleast 59 million people if WW2 Was Won by Hitler

[Kazarogkai]

Hitler Would Kill More Than Stalin.Why? Because Hitler Would kill Most Russians,Adding Atleast 50 million To Death toll.Then Jews,9 million.Hitler Would Kill Atleast 59 million people if WW2 Was Won by Hitler

Stalin killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

[Sino nations]

Hitler Would Kill More Than Stalin.Why? Because Hitler Would kill Most Russians,Adding Atleast 50 million To Death toll.Then Jews,9 million.Hitler Would Kill Atleast 59 million people if WW2 Was Won by Hitler

Staline killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

But What If He Would? Not Only 59 millionn would be killed but! 21 million + 59 million = 80 million. Then Hitler In USA Would Kill off 30 million!
80 million + 30 million =110 million

Also About Stalin,You Did mistake 10 million who were alive.

62 million were killed by Stalin

[Consortium of the Caigont]

The worst place you can be though out of all countries during the war was Estonia. Not only was it brutally occupied twice but the highest estimates show as much as 20% of the population died. Mostly civilians I presume, but honestly dying as a civilian(in my view) doesn't sound a whole lot better than dying as a soldier.

Dying as a civilian, your death means nothing. You haven't even been expended in the hope of an operation defeating the enemy and securing ground. You've just died.

That's even more depressing.

[East Catalina]

Seems more like the Union is a superior choice to Deutschland.

[Conscentia]

Hitler Would Kill More Than Stalin.Why? Because Hitler Would kill Most Russians,Adding Atleast 50 million To Death toll.Then Jews,9 million.Hitler Would Kill Atleast 59 million people if WW2 Was Won by Hitler

Stalin killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

That is a lie.

The highest estimate I've seen only goes as high as 60 million. (Other high estimates only go as high as 50 million.)
http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people- ... ll-1111789

Additionally, Sino nations' calculation of "59 million" does not seem to count those already killed by the Nazi regime.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Hitler Would Kill More Than Stalin.Why? Because Hitler Would kill Most Russians,Adding Atleast 50 million To Death toll.Then Jews,9 million.Hitler Would Kill Atleast 59 million people if WW2 Was Won by Hitler

Stalin killed about 72 million in real life...

That is wildly incorrect.

[Uxupox]

Stalin killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

That is a lie.

Yea he definitely killed a shit ton of people but he did not kill over 50 million people I think.

[Imperializt Russia]

Dying as a civilian, your death means nothing. You haven't even been expended in the hope of an operation defeating the enemy and securing ground. You've just died.

That's even more depressing.

A soldier's death can be valuable, even advantageous. A civilian's does not.

[Kazarogkai]

The worst place you can be though out of all countries during the war was Estonia. Not only was it brutally occupied twice but the highest estimates show as much as 20% of the population died. Mostly civilians I presume, but honestly dying as a civilian(in my view) doesn't sound a whole lot better than dying as a soldier.

Dying as a civilian, your death means nothing. You haven't even been expended in the hope of an operation defeating the enemy and securing ground. You've just died.

Your death did mean something, the farmer or the laborer are just as essential and important in the greatness of the nation as the general and the soldier. The farmer did die in an operation in the hopes of defeating the enemy, he died feeding his fellow people(soldiers included) so that they may fight on with a full stomach. An army marches on it's stomach.

[Kazarogkai]

Staline killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

But What If He Would? Not Only 59 millionn would be killed but! 21 million + 59 million = 80 million. Then Hitler In USA Would Kill off 30 million!
80 million + 30 million =110 million

Also About Stalin,You Did mistake 10 million who were alive.

62 million were killed by Stalin

Hitler could not win the war, the best he could do was get a stalemate and that is about it. The moment he stepped into Russia the war was already decided.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Staline killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

But What If He Would? Not Only 59 millionn would be killed but! 21 million + 59 million = 80 million. Then Hitler In USA Would Kill off 30 million!
80 million + 30 million =110 million

Also About Stalin,You Did mistake 10 million who were alive.

62 million were killed by Stalin

Where in the hell are you getting that number? That's practically half the population of the USSR if I'm not mistaken.

[New Frenco Empire]

Hitler Would Kill More Than Stalin.Why? Because Hitler Would kill Most Russians,Adding Atleast 50 million To Death toll.Then Jews,9 million.Hitler Would Kill Atleast 59 million people if WW2 Was Won by Hitler

Stalin killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

Yeah, but Soviet occupation is hardly any better than life under Hitler. You'd just better hope your town is in the West, so America could get to you first.

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

Stalin killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

Yeah, but Soviet occupation is hardly any better than life under Hitler. You'd just better hope your town is in the West, so America could get to you first.

Depends. Life under Soviet oppression is still preferable to the gas chambers.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Badly stated in a rush. Proportionally. I'm relatively certain I've seen breakdowns of statistics indicating you'd be more likely to survive as your average Russian soldier than your average German one.

I'll concede if I'm wrong, but, yeah.

The worst place you can be though out of all countries during the war was Estonia. Not only was it brutally occupied twice but the highest estimates show as much as 20% of the population died. Mostly civilians I presume, but honestly dying as a civilian(in my view) doesn't sound a whole lot better than dying as a soldier.

I've already decided that if I had to die in this time period, it would be in the Kronstadt Rebellion.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Stalin killed about 72 million in real life...

Also Hitler did not win the war, nor could he have, that was one of reasons why I would pick him. I wouldn't have to deal with him all that long.

That is a lie.

The highest estimate I've seen only goes as high as 60 million. (Other high estimates only go as high as 50 million.)
http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people- ... ll-1111789

Additionally, Sino nations' calculation of "59 million" does not seem to count those already killed by the Nazi regime.

And I'm pretty sure most of those ultra-high estimates include deaths from starvation and whatnot, which I think it would be arguable to say was all intentionally ordered by and executed to the degree designated by Joseph Stalin.

[New Frenco Empire]

Yeah, but Soviet occupation is hardly any better than life under Hitler. You'd just better hope your town is in the West, so America could get to you first.

Depends. Life under Soviet oppression is still preferable to the gas chambers.

Getting raped, shot and/or your entire town burned to the ground by vindictive Soviet soldiers is hardly much better.

Besides, since we're talking about a hypothetical where someone chooses Germany since they'd lose anyways, I'm saying American occupation and eventual incorporation into West Germany is the best possible way to go.

[Imperializt Russia]

But What If He Would? Not Only 59 millionn would be killed but! 21 million + 59 million = 80 million. Then Hitler In USA Would Kill off 30 million!
80 million + 30 million =110 million

Also About Stalin,You Did mistake 10 million who were alive.

62 million were killed by Stalin

Where in the hell are you getting that number? That's practically half the population of the USSR if I'm not mistaken.

Where is he getting any of the numbers?
Though remember that Stalin's killings did take place over, what, a thirty year period?

Total population growth over Stalin's reign was about thirty to sixty million. Remember that thirty million also died in WWII, so really the Soviet population probably expanded by anything from 50 to 80 million people during this period.

[Arkinesia]

I wouldn't want to live under either, BUT Soviet art and culture is infinitely superior to Nazi art and culture.

Hugo Boss isn't culture. Sorry.

[Kazarogkai]

But What If He Would? Not Only 59 millionn would be killed but! 21 million + 59 million = 80 million. Then Hitler In USA Would Kill off 30 million!
80 million + 30 million =110 million

Also About Stalin,You Did mistake 10 million who were alive.

62 million were killed by Stalin

Where in the hell are you getting that number? That's practically half the population of the USSR if I'm not mistaken.

That number doesn't just include people in the USSR itself, also includes Warsaw pact countries and the like.

[United Marxist Nations]

Where in the hell are you getting that number? That's practically half the population of the USSR if I'm not mistaken.

That number doesn't just include people in the USSR itself, also includes Warsaw pact countries and the like.

I would still like to see actual data supporting Stalin killing 40-50 million people in the Warsaw Pact. As I have demonstrated numerous times, high estimates for Soviet death tolls are absurdly exaggerated, and even the people who made them have mostly abandoned them.

[Sandwich Makers]

Could I split the difference, and say East Germany?

Is living in a country controlled by the soviet union really that much better than living in the Soviet Union... actually yeah it probably would be better.

[Pandeeria]

Could I split the difference, and say East Germany?

Is living in a country controlled by the soviet union really that much better than living in the Soviet Union... actually yeah it probably would be better.

East Germany was a Soviet puppet state. Living under it would be essentially the same, except for trivialities like a different-but-still-patriotic anthem, a different named yet ideologically identical single ruling Party, social programs, and what not.

[Rusozak]

Could I split the difference, and say East Germany?

Is living in a country controlled by the soviet union really that much better than living in the Soviet Union... actually yeah it probably would be better.

Or worse, since you're in a puppet state where the soviets care even less about your well being, and the local dictator can concentrate their efforts to weed out opposition on a smaller populace occupying less land.