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Postby Fascist American » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:40 pm

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1) I have ned never heard of, much less seen, a urinal designed for women before this thread.


Neither have I, and it doesn't sound like a good idea. I've seen a lot of different designs of toilets -- both with seats and squat toilets -- but not a urinal designed for women.


I don't see the big fuss,men can have their restrooms made custom for them,and women can have their restrooms made custom to them.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:42 pm

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Neither have I, and it doesn't sound like a good idea. I've seen a lot of different designs of toilets -- both with seats and squat toilets -- but not a urinal designed for women.


I don't see the big fuss,men can have their restrooms made custom for them,and women can have their restrooms made custom to them.


It's not the most efficient use of space and it causes anxiety for transfolks.
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Postby Fascist American » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:44 pm

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I don't see the big fuss,men can have their restrooms made custom for them,and women can have their restrooms made custom to them.


It's not the most efficient use of space and it causes anxiety for transfolks.


How is a wall seperating two rooms taking up space.The trans folk can go into the family or small unisex bathrooms that are on the rise.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:01 pm

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It's not the most efficient use of space and it causes anxiety for transfolks.


How is a wall seperating two rooms taking up space.The trans folk can go into the family or small unisex bathrooms that are on the rise.


Not everywhere has unisex or family bathrooms, and it's not just the wall separating the bathrooms that is inefficient. Supposed there are empty stalls in one bathroom, but a line for the other. If the bathrooms were all unisex, the people waiting in line could go use the empty stalls instead of waiting.
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Postby The Salvatagard Republic » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:30 pm

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Meh. I still don't think that bathrooms should be desegged. Just make the bathrooms bigger. Won't that be fairer for the females, anyway? If you always needed evidence for everything, you would get nowhere. "I'm pretty sure Taylor Lautner is a female. Why? Her name is 'Taylor.'" Sheesh. Don't you ever get anywhere?

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Postby Cartagine » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:27 pm

I don't think it is a problem as many people wouldn't feel at ease sharing the bathroom with people of the other sex, and honestly i can't blame them when i look at how some members of society act around people from the opposite sex.

I do believe however that there should be an option to a mixed bathroom, if only just to see if it would work, how people would feel about it and to introduce people to the idea.

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Postby Vorond » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:34 pm

Segregated bathrooms will continue to promote divisions in society between the genders and the sexes; they are also unacceptably callous towards people who might not identify comfortably with either of the two genders/sexes or who may look different from the side they would rather identify with.


..."Identify"? That word must have changed its meaning since my school days it appears.

OK, I propose we just relabel them all:

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Postby Gim » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:35 pm

Cartagine wrote:I don't think it is a problem as many people wouldn't feel at ease sharing the bathroom with people of the other sex, and honestly i can't blame them when i look at how some members of society act around people from the opposite sex.

I do believe however that there should be an option to a mixed bathroom, if only just to see if it would work, how people would feel about it and to introduce people to the idea.


Ironically, that will only categorize the mixed even more.
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Postby Cartagine » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:41 pm

Gim wrote:
Cartagine wrote:I don't think it is a problem as many people wouldn't feel at ease sharing the bathroom with people of the other sex, and honestly i can't blame them when i look at how some members of society act around people from the opposite sex.

I do believe however that there should be an option to a mixed bathroom, if only just to see if it would work, how people would feel about it and to introduce people to the idea.


Ironically, that will only categorize the mixed even more.


Who do you mean with "the mixed" ?
Just saying that people should be able to chose wether they want to share a bathroom with people from the opposite sex or not.

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Postby Dazchan » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:19 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Varisea wrote:"Superficial?" Clearly our Sex Ed curiculum needs serious reform.
Also, the thing about eliminating urinals is absurd. Heck, this whole conversation is pretty rediculus. There are more important issues: ISIS, the European migrant crisis, America's monthly spree shootings, climate change, actual discrimination.

Yes, superficial. Also, if you don't think this topic is worthy of your time, there's nothing stopping you from simply not posting here.


Didn't you know that you get a free trip to Disneyworld if your post count reaches a certain target? That's why people insist on making "I don't care" posts in topics instead of just showing that they don't care by not posting altogether.

On topic: Unisex restrooms appear to have a lot of positives and very few (if any) negatives. Most of the arguments in this thread (and in the previous one on this topic) against the idea seem to be along the lines of "Eww... icky!"
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Postby Gim » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:39 pm

Cartagine wrote:
Gim wrote:
Ironically, that will only categorize the mixed even more.


Who do you mean with "the mixed" ?
Just saying that people should be able to chose wether they want to share a bathroom with people from the opposite sex or not.


The transgenders?
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Postby Morr » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:45 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:remove the urinals (females can't use them anyway and they provide an unfair advantage?

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Postby Gim » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:46 pm

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Infected Mushroom wrote:remove the urinals (females can't use them anyway and they provide an unfair advantage?

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Well, they use sinks better than urinals. That's a fact. :p
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Postby Cartagine » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:56 am

Gim wrote:
Cartagine wrote:
Who do you mean with "the mixed" ?
Just saying that people should be able to chose wether they want to share a bathroom with people from the opposite sex or not.


The transgenders?


Ah like that, well honestly i can't bother about them being catagorized. We shouldn't force females or males to share a bathroom with transgenders, not even when it means transgenders would be categorized.

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Postby Valystria » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:44 pm

Gim wrote:
Cartagine wrote:
Who do you mean with "the mixed" ?
Just saying that people should be able to chose wether they want to share a bathroom with people from the opposite sex or not.


The transgenders?

Transgender people is a more appropriate term. Calling transgender people transgenders is not only dehumanizing, it's inaccurate.

Cartagine wrote:
Gim wrote:
Ironically, that will only categorize the mixed even more.


Who do you mean with "the mixed" ?
Just saying that people should be able to chose wether they want to share a bathroom with people from the opposite sex or not.

Other sex. Not opposite sex. Intersex people exist too.

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Gim wrote:
The transgenders?


Ah like that, well honestly i can't bother about them being catagorized. We shouldn't force females or males to share a bathroom with transgenders, not even when it means transgenders would be categorized.

Transgender people. Not transgenders. You seem to forget transgender people can be male or female too, so what is this about "not forcing females or males to share a bathroom with transgenders"?

And why is it that it's not okay to force "females and males" to use a restroom with transgender people but it's okay to force transgender people to use a restroom with "females and males"? You're going very far out of your way to be intentionally exclusionary to transgender individuals.

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Postby Gim » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:45 pm

Valystria wrote:Transgender people is a more appropriate term. Calling transgender people transgenders is not only dehumanizing, it's inaccurate.


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Postby Jamzmania » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:49 pm

Valystria wrote:
Gim wrote:
The transgenders?

Transgender people is a more appropriate term. Calling transgender people transgenders is not only dehumanizing, it's inaccurate.

Cartagine wrote:
Who do you mean with "the mixed" ?
Just saying that people should be able to chose wether they want to share a bathroom with people from the opposite sex or not.

Other sex. Not opposite sex. Intersex people exist too.

Cartagine wrote:
Ah like that, well honestly i can't bother about them being catagorized. We shouldn't force females or males to share a bathroom with transgenders, not even when it means transgenders would be categorized.

Transgender people. Not transgenders. You seem to forget transgender people can be male or female too, so what is this about "not forcing females or males to share a bathroom with transgenders"?

And why is it that it's not okay to force "females and males" to use a restroom with transgender people but it's okay to force transgender people to use a restroom with "females and males"? You're going very far out of your way to be intentionally exclusionary to transgender individuals.

Transgender people are just gonna have to go with whichever bathroom they most look like. There are stalls in both if they can't use the urinals.
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Postby Gim » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:52 pm

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Valystria wrote:Transgender people is a more appropriate term. Calling transgender people transgenders is not only dehumanizing, it's inaccurate.


Other sex. Not opposite sex. Intersex people exist too.


Transgender people. Not transgenders. You seem to forget transgender people can be male or female too, so what is this about "not forcing females or males to share a bathroom with transgenders"?

And why is it that it's not okay to force "females and males" to use a restroom with transgender people but it's okay to force transgender people to use a restroom with "females and males"? You're going very far out of your way to be intentionally exclusionary to transgender individuals.

Transgender people are just gonna have to go with whichever bathroom they most look like. There are stalls in both if they can't use the urinals.


There should be a checkup where physicians determine whether each transgender person looks female or male. One determined to be more female uses the female bathroom, whereas, the one determined to be more male, the male bathroom.
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Postby Valystria » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:05 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Valystria wrote:Transgender people is a more appropriate term. Calling transgender people transgenders is not only dehumanizing, it's inaccurate.


Other sex. Not opposite sex. Intersex people exist too.


Transgender people. Not transgenders. You seem to forget transgender people can be male or female too, so what is this about "not forcing females or males to share a bathroom with transgenders"?

And why is it that it's not okay to force "females and males" to use a restroom with transgender people but it's okay to force transgender people to use a restroom with "females and males"? You're going very far out of your way to be intentionally exclusionary to transgender individuals.

Transgender people are just gonna have to go with whichever bathroom they most look like. There are stalls in both if they can't use the urinals.

Or we could have unisex bathrooms which benefits everyone except sexists.

Gim wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Transgender people are just gonna have to go with whichever bathroom they most look like. There are stalls in both if they can't use the urinals.


There should be a checkup where physicians determine whether each transgender person looks female or male. One determined to be more female uses the female bathroom, whereas, the one determined to be more male, the male bathroom.

I can't tell if you're being serious.

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Postby Gim » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:45 pm

Or we could have unisex bathrooms which benefits everyone except sexists.


Women don't like sharing bathrooms with men. Men, I do not think, do not mind.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:52 pm

Gim wrote:
Or we could have unisex bathrooms which benefits everyone except sexists.


Women don't like sharing bathrooms with men. Men, I do not think, do not mind.

Generalization., I'm not cool with sharing a bathroom with women.
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Women don't like sharing bathrooms with men. Men, I do not think, do not mind.

Generalization., I'm not cool with sharing a bathroom with women.


Exactly, men do not seem to mind. Some women need their privacy in fixing their makeups and getting rid of smells by putting on perfumes after defecation.
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The Alexanderians wrote:Generalization., I'm not cool with sharing a bathroom with women.


Exactly, men do not seem to mind. Some women need their privacy in fixing their makeups and getting rid of smells by putting on perfumes after defecation.

No, I'm saying I mind, quite a lot. I don't want to share a bathroom with women. For a variety of reasons.
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Postby Gim » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:56 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Gim wrote:
Exactly, men do not seem to mind. Some women need their privacy in fixing their makeups and getting rid of smells by putting on perfumes after defecation.

No, I'm saying I mind, quite a lot. I don't want to share a bathroom with women. For a variety of reasons.


Okay, that supports my stance that men and women need separate bathrooms. :)
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Postby Tekania » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:22 am

Given the fact that there are unisex bathrooms in just about every residence, I don't really see an issue with public unisex restrooms.
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