The Truth of the bible

[Neutraligon]

So since we cannot seem to keep the county clerk thread on topic I am making this thread in the hope the discussion will be take here.
The question is simple is the bible true and or accurate? Can it be relied on for factual claims? Does it have any relevance when it comes to science? Is the big bang real? Etc etc etc.

Have at it.

As for my opinion the bible is no more real than any other fairy tale or fable.

[The Siverian Republic]

Of course. The universe can't come from nowhere, and the bible says that the Romans had Jesus executed. The Romans were real, so apply that logic.

[Polar Svalbard]

I am a catholic, and yet I believe the Bible to be nothing other than a semi-true history book. Think about it the people writing it were 100 years too late, so many stories by that point would have been conflated or underplayed. There were many other books, but they were not put in. Take that as you will. Think of the Bible as more of a misguided history book, its partially true, and yet not at the same time. The ideals are all that matter, you know thou shalt not kill, and all of that.

[The Saint James Islands]

The only thing a Bible verse is proof of is if some sequence of words is a Bible verse.

Same as any other holy text, really.

[Farnhamia]

Mod edit: Spoilered annoying animation.

[Vassenor]

Of course. The universe can't come from nowhere, and the bible says that the Romans had Jesus executed. The Romans were real, so apply that logic.

Being rooted in reality doesn't make fiction true.

[Noraika]

Of course. The universe can't come from nowhere, and the bible says that the Romans had Jesus executed. The Romans were real, so apply that logic.

Jesus existed =/= Sin exists, or the theology Christianity is the truth. There are plenty of other religions. Why should the Bible be considered any different the Vedas?

[Vikipolis]

For the most part, yes.

[Risottia]

The Bible isn't a fairy tale. Not enough fairies in it.

More seriously, I consider the Bible, as a historical source, as having more or less the same value of the Iliad at best and of the Theogonia at worst. That is, myths.

[Salus Maior]

Oh boy, we're really doing this aren't we? ....Ugh....

[Vassenor]

For the most part, yes.

Care to elaborate on that?

[Idzequitch]

So since we cannot seem to keep the county clerk thread on topic I am making this thread in the hope the discussion will be take here.
The question is simple is the bible true and or accurate? Can it be relied on for factual claims? Does it have any relevance when it comes to science? Is the big bang real? Etc etc etc.

Have at it.

As for my opinion the bible is no more real than any other fairy tail or fable.

I wasn't aware that fairies had tails...

[North Arkana]

The Bible has been rewritten so many times by people with selfish interests or ulterior motives that it's impossible to look at the bible and see it as anything but a means to an end now. And to find truth in the bible is to use what all call "the religious method" vs "the scientific method". In the scientific method, if anything disproves a part of your theory, you must readjust because the entire theory (or at least a majority of it) has been disproven. Whereas with the " religious method" if there's so much as a single grain of truth, suddenly the whole thing must be true.

[New Granadeseret]

So since we cannot seem to keep the county clerk thread on topic I am making this thread in the hope the discussion will be take here.
The question is simple is the bible true and or accurate? Can it be relied on for factual claims? Does it have any relevance when it comes to science? Is the big bang real? Etc etc etc.

Have at it.

As for my opinion the bible is no more real than any other fairy tail or fable.

Eh, the parts where it covers assorted events between Old Judea and her neighboring states have some scholarly value. I mean, they attribute things to divine intervention that were probably the result of their and their opponent's competence/incompetence and replace righteousness for skill... but such embellishments aren't uncommon in iron age histories. It's those parts right at the beginning and the 2nd half that are the main issue.

[The Jaclean Empire]

Why do you start these things? It''s just gonna be a bunch of meaningless arguing.

[Herrebrugh]

Of course. The universe can't come from nowhere, and the bible says that the Romans had Jesus executed. The Romans were real, so apply that logic.

London is featured in Harry Potter. London is a real place, so apply that logic.

[The Saint James Islands]

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Some of us have nothing better to do right now, thank you very much.

[The Lacedaemonians]

It'll be the next subject in the mythological encyclicals a few generations from now.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The bible said there were plants before the sun, I can pretty safely say it's creation story is nonsense.

[The Siverian Republic]

Of course. The universe can't come from nowhere, and the bible says that the Romans had Jesus executed. The Romans were real, so apply that logic.

Jesus existed =/= Sin exists, or the theology Christianity is the truth. There are plenty of other religions. Why should the Bible be considered any different the Vedas?

As it is true. Why is it the most followed religion in the world? Because people told the true stories, and their heirs told the truth. And we got here.

[Neutraligon]

Why do you start these things? It''s just gonna be a bunch of meaningless arguing.

I said why I started it in the OP. When I start threads like this it is normally to prevent a threadjack in a different thread.
Considering this is an internet forum, it is all just meaningless arguing.

[Risottia]

So since we cannot seem to keep the county clerk thread on topic I am making this thread in the hope the discussion will be take here.
The question is simple is the bible true and or accurate? Can it be relied on for factual claims? Does it have any relevance when it comes to science? Is the big bang real? Etc etc etc.

Have at it.

As for my opinion the bible is no more real than any other fairy tail or fable.

I wasn't aware that fairies had tails...

You must have known the wrong kind of fairies.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Jesus existed =/= Sin exists, or the theology Christianity is the truth. There are plenty of other religions. Why should the Bible be considered any different the Vedas?

As it is true. Why is it the most followed religion in the world? Because people told the true stories, and their heirs told the truth. And we got here.

Because the Roman Empire made it it's state religion and the states that came after sought to emulate them and adopted a very "convert or die" attitude.

[Jochistan]

Its not factual if taken literally. Which is what most Christians don't do. I doubt even the most literal of biblical literalists takes their disobedient child outside and stones them to death, painstakingly selects clothes of 100% of a fabric and sacrifices bulls in their backyard. Killing whoever complains.

[Ifreann]

Of course. The universe can't come from nowhere, and the bible says that the Romans had Jesus executed. The Romans were real, so apply that logic.

The Harry Potter novels say that there's a train station at King's Cross. Therefore wizards are real.

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Of course. The universe can't come from nowhere, and the bible says that the Romans had Jesus executed. The Romans were real, so apply that logic.

London is featured in Harry Potter. London is a real place, so apply that logic.

Curse you!