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Postby The balkens » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:41 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Well? Freedom of Speech and Expression does give you the ability to say things like that.

The people chanting it don't care and want the attention. The organizers probably think it will get them them noticed and obviously it did simply because we are here discussing it.

I have distanced myself from the BLM arguments as I knew the Hayward cop who was murdered recently.


No shit?

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:43 pm

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I predictions are this, it will end like OWS. Faded into the background when shit like this becomes for common,

Honorable goals? sure. But with their words and chants? any decent person will tune off from them.


Except unlike Wall Street greed, blacks being shot dead by police for a grab bag of disproportionate reasons isn't something easily ignored by those it affects.

While this may be true, BLM isn't helping the situation by calling for violence against police officers.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:43 pm

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I dont think they care at this point.

These people are more concerned with getting their 15 minutes of fame then fighting for civil rights. They disgust me, and they are doing an injustice to all African-Americans.


Rather than fame I think they're like the English Defence League- so moronically blinkered in their activism that they don't see that they're only hurting what they claim to love.
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Postby Irona » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:44 pm

Okay I was on the side of BLM but this goes way to far. The movement needs to condemn those who said this, have they got no sense of morals?

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:45 pm

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The Orson Empire wrote:These people are more concerned with getting their 15 minutes of fame then fighting for civil rights. They disgust me, and they are doing an injustice to all African-Americans.



Rather than fame I think they're like the English Defence League- so moronically blinkerd in their activism that they don't see that they're only hurting what they claim to love.

I honestly don't know if the people involved actually give a shit about the movement. Like I said earlier, they just want their 15 minutes of fame.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:45 pm

The balkens wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Well? Freedom of Speech and Expression does give you the ability to say things like that.

The people chanting it don't care and want the attention. The organizers probably think it will get them them noticed and obviously it did simply because we are here discussing it.

I have distanced myself from the BLM arguments as I knew the Hayward cop who was murdered recently.


No shit?


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:46 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:

Rather than fame I think they're like the English Defence League- so moronically blinkerd in their activism that they don't see that they're only hurting what they claim to love.

I honestly don't know if the people involved actually give a shit about the movement. Like I said earlier, they just want their 15 minutes of fame.


I think the privilege + power SJWist mentality also prevents them from realizing that when they say this shit they look like assholes to everyone else.
They may not be able to comprehend a white cop as a victim, or think it's fair game, or nothing compared to what they go through as still alive black people. It's a result of collectivist thinking.

"Black people have it worse than white people."
Yeh, but not those black people and that white person, cos he's dead.

It's the kind of mentality that prevents empathy, and its visible to all the moderates and such. I expect this will kill the movement.

Frankly I expect most social movements to keep failing to enact change until this plague among the left is eradicated.
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:46 pm

That's very unbecoming of them.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:48 pm

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The Orson Empire wrote:I honestly don't know if the people involved actually give a shit about the movement. Like I said earlier, they just want their 15 minutes of fame.


I think the privilege + power SJWist mentality also prevents them from realizing that when they say this shit they look like assholes to everyone else.
They may not be able to comprehend a white cop as a victim, or think it's fair game, or nothing compared to what they go through as still alive black people.


Clearly this is SJW manufactured outrage and blacks being disproportionately killed by police is a myth.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:48 pm

Oglassa wrote:Black Lives are not the lives that matter.
All lives are the lives that matter.

Ugh, this crap. We're plenty aware that "All lives matter". Anyone sane that supports black lives matter is plenty aware of that. But right now we're focusing on the black lives that seem to be less appreciated right now. That does NOT mean we don't think all lives matter. Anyone who uses the "All lives matter" slogan lately don't even understand the reason WHY the black lives matter group started in the first place.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:49 pm

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No shit?


He was dating my cousin. They had plans to get married. He was a good guy.


Was he the one that got shot at the gas station?
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Oglassa wrote:Black Lives are not the lives that matter.
All lives are the lives that matter.

Ugh, this crap. We're plenty aware that "All lives matter". Anyone sane that supports black lives matter is plenty aware of that. But right now we're focusing on the black lives that seem to be less appreciated right now. That does NOT mean we don't think all lives matter. Anyone who uses the "All lives matter" slogan lately don't even understand the reason WHY the black lives matter group started in the first place.


Hence my Orwelling response.

"All Lives Matter. But Some Lives Matter More Than Others."

What they're really saying is Black Lives Don't Matter So Much or Matter Shit, depending on personal view.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:49 pm

Are we operating under the assumption that this was a centralized decision on behalf of Black Lives Matter?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:51 pm

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Ostroeuropa wrote:
I think the privilege + power SJWist mentality also prevents them from realizing that when they say this shit they look like assholes to everyone else.
They may not be able to comprehend a white cop as a victim, or think it's fair game, or nothing compared to what they go through as still alive black people.


Clearly this is SJW manufactured outrage and blacks being disproportionately killed by police is a myth.


Yeh but see, you're doing it right now.
This is a cop who got shot.
This isn't the time for you to bring up that shit.
The fact blacks get disproportionately murdered by police does not mean all police are shit, and does not mean black people should revel in the opportunity to be dicks to the police, especially to police who are murdered. It makes it seem like you don't actually give a fuck about people being murdered, but more about YOUR people being murdered.
That's precisely the kind of SJWist attitude that's the problem here and in other places.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:51 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I think the privilege + power SJWist mentality also prevents them from realizing that when they say this shit they look like assholes to everyone else.
They may not be able to comprehend a white cop as a victim, or think it's fair game, or nothing compared to what they go through as still alive black people.


Clearly this is SJW manufactured outrage and blacks being disproportionately killed by police is a myth.


That's not what he said.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:52 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Clearly this is SJW manufactured outrage and blacks being disproportionately killed by police is a myth.


Yeh but see, you're doing it right now.
This is a cop who got shot.
This isn't the time for you to bring up that shit.
The fact blacks get disproportionately murdered by police does not mean all police are shit, and does not mean black people should revel in the opportunity to be dicks to the police, especially to police who are murdered. It makes it seem like you don't actually give a fuck about people being murdered, but more about YOUR people being murdered.
That's precisely the kind of SJWist attitude that's the problem here and in other places.


THIS is what he said, and it's absolutely true.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:53 pm

Kar-Esseria wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Clearly this is SJW manufactured outrage and blacks being disproportionately killed by police is a myth.


That's not what he said.


It's useless to appeal to facts with an SJW. They operate purely on narrative. You have to try and explain to them why their narrative is wrong.
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Postby Deuxtete » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:53 pm

Gauthier wrote:And so people will take this as a chance to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the underlying problem of racism that leads to disproportionate arrests and deaths that stirred up Black Lives Matter in the first place. Which of course means Black Lives Matter won't be permanently stopped.

The issue you're talking about has always been, its not new.
No one is burying their heads in the sand, they never came up to need to be buried again.

One thing however doesn't excuse another.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:53 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Kar-Esseria wrote:
That's not what he said.


It's useless to appeal to facts with an SJW. They operate purely on narrative. You have to try and explain to them why their narrative is wrong.


This from the guy who thinks everything bad in the world is a feminist conspiracy.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:53 pm

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He was dating my cousin. They had plans to get married. He was a good guy.


Was he the one that got shot at the gas station?


No. Different case. Saw somebody driving erratically. Pulled him over and was shot as he walked up to the truck.

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Are we operating under the assumption that this was a centralized decision on behalf of Black Lives Matter?


I'm not. Assumed it was just this particular bunch......
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:55 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Kar-Esseria wrote:
That's not what he said.


It's useless to appeal to facts with an SJW. They operate purely on narrative. You have to try and explain to them why their narrative is wrong.


Nah, SJWs can't be argued with at all. They reject the reality and substitute it with their own.
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Gauthier wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
It's useless to appeal to facts with an SJW. They operate purely on narrative. You have to try and explain to them why their narrative is wrong.


This from the guy who thinks everything bad in the world is a feminist conspiracy.


Do you think Conservatives are conspiring to fuck up the economy and impoverish everybody, or do you just think they are wrong?

Thank you for, again, demonstrating you don't care about facts, only your narrative.
I've never claimed a conspiracy, only a cock up. But you keep repeating it, because it fits your narrative.
I've pointed this out to you before and you keep repeating it.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:55 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Are we operating under the assumption that this was a centralized decision on behalf of Black Lives Matter?


I'm not. Assumed it was just this particular bunch......


Hey, if it's convenient for people to associate the New Black Panthers with the original Black Panthers for their political agendas...
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:56 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Oglassa wrote:Black Lives are not the lives that matter.
All lives are the lives that matter.


All Lives Matter. But Some Lives Matter More Than Others.

Apparently black lives and police lives seem to gather more attention than Asian or Hispanic lives.
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