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Is it wrong to follow a religion outside your culture?

No. Believe what you want, even if the belief originated outside your culture.
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Yes. it's a form of appropriation/going against your heritage.
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No. but there are restrictions (explain)
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:14 am

Risottia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Out here, so far from Rome, our priests don't even give us wine. :(

Not even here. The Catholic Church actually waged three Crusades against the wine-soakers.

Pope.
y u hate wine? :(
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Postby Webus » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:15 am

Jochistan wrote:In western and eastern societies alike, you see people converting to "foreign" religions. Sometimes out of rebellion, sometimes out of pretention, and sometimes out of genuine beleif. The problem is, it's hard to seperate this at times.

You see people in the west converting to eastern religions like Buddhism or Hindiusm all the time.

Some of the largest churches where I grew up were predominantly Chinese or Korean. With masses in English and one of the two other languages. In the Asian American community, Christianity has been a popular choice with troubled teens finding no solice in the confucianist/taoist/buddhist traditions of their families.


What I am trying to get at is the question of whether this is right or not. Is religion universal? Does it matter if you are a white convert to an eastern religion or an Asian convert to an Abrahamic religion?

Personally, I think there is nothing wrong with it. It shouldn't matter what race you are as long as you actually beleive it. Everyone brings their own cultural values to a religion. That's inevitable. But when you do it out of rebellion or are pretentious about it (which is very often the case) it becomes not okay. Just my opinion tho.

What do you guys think?

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:15 am

Jochistan wrote:In western and eastern societies alike, you see people converting to "foreign" religions. Sometimes out of rebellion, sometimes out of pretention, and sometimes out of genuine beleif. The problem is, it's hard to seperate this at times.

You see people in the west converting to eastern religions like Buddhism or Hindiusm all the time.

Some of the largest churches where I grew up were predominantly Chinese or Korean. With masses in English and one of the two other languages. In the Asian American community, Christianity has been a popular choice with troubled teens finding no solice in the confucianist/taoist/buddhist traditions of their families.


What I am trying to get at is the question of whether this is right or not. Is religion universal? Does it matter if you are a white convert to an eastern religion or an Asian convert to an Abrahamic religion?

Personally, I think there is nothing wrong with it. It shouldn't matter what race you are as long as you actually beleive it. Everyone brings their own cultural values to a religion. That's inevitable. But when you do it out of rebellion or are pretentious about it (which is very often the case) it becomes not okay. Just my opinion tho.

What do you guys think?


There's nothing wrong with it. People are diverse and have the ability to change and incorporate ideas from other cultures, rather than existing as monolithic stereotypical blocks.

For the same reason, I object to your equation of race and culture. They overlap sometimes, but they are far from synonymous.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:16 am

No, of course not. Anyone can follow a religion. Likewise, anyone can choose not to follow a religion, even if it is in their culture.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:17 am

Jute wrote:
Risottia wrote:Is it? Is it really? Or maybe a fairly large group claims to be Christian just for peer pressure, while in private they continue to sin gleefully?

Well, if they talk about being "saved" and the "gift of faith" that does seem like they actually believe in Christianity. Non-practicing Christians would hardly do that, would they?

I would gess you'd find plenty of people preaching Christianity (ministers of faith included) in public who have been found to be committing various kinds of capital sins quite often (usually lust, gluttony, and avarice).
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:18 am

Webus wrote:It's wrong to believe in a region.

Indeed. I have a neighbour who's a really strong believer in the South Pacific, and I keep telling him, "well, have you ever been there? No? Well then, how do you know it exists? Ha! Gotcha."
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:18 am

Just to be pedantic here, religion is a part of culture so why would it be wrong?
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:20 am

Conscentia wrote:
Braencia wrote:I'm not sure of any other than atheism, even Scientology has their supernatural story(s).

Atheism is not a religion.

Why is it that there are so many people who don't understand atheism when the damn word defines itself?

Because people keep confusing "atheistic" religions with what they actually are i.e nontheistic?
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Postby Kalosia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:22 am

of course not

that's probably how religion spread y'know like if it was wrong white people would be pagan and christians would be limited to jews and arabs

and then idek abt my own country all our state-recognized religions were brought here by foreigners
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Postby Webus » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:22 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Webus wrote:It's wrong to believe in a region.

Indeed. I have a neighbour who's a really strong believer in the South Pacific, and I keep telling him, "well, have you ever been there? No? Well then, how do you know it exists? Ha! Gotcha."

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Postby Jute » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:23 am

Risottia wrote:
Jute wrote:Well, if they talk about being "saved" and the "gift of faith" that does seem like they actually believe in Christianity. Non-practicing Christians would hardly do that, would they?

I would gess you'd find plenty of people preaching Christianity (ministers of faith included) in public who have been found to be committing various kinds of capital sins quite often (usually lust, gluttony, and avarice).

Yes, and? That doesn't stop them from being Christians. Being free from sin isn't a requirement at all to be one.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:24 am

Divitaen wrote:No obviously not. People can follow whatever religion they want or wish.

This.
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Postby Yorkvale » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:25 am

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Postby Luziyca » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Risottia wrote:Not even here. The Catholic Church actually waged three Crusades against the wine-soakers.

Pope.
y u hate wine? :(

Try listening to children whining in church. That's why they don't give wine anymore.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:26 am

Luziyca wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Pope.
y u hate wine? :(

Try listening to children whining in church. That's why they don't give wine anymore.

You want some cheese with that heretic?
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Postby Korhal IVV » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:28 am

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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:28 am

Simply put, of course not. One's religion is their own damn business, provided they don't shove it down my throat.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:32 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Simply put, of course not. One's religion is their own damn business, provided they don't shove it down my throat.

Given humans are naturally illogical beings (if Neil Degrasse Tyson is correct) then good luck with that. Because anything can be shoved down your throat not just religion.

I never understood the whole saying, and personally it seems that "shoving it in your ears" is more accurate for religions that evangelize.
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Postby Jute » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:33 am

Webus wrote:
Jochistan wrote:In western and eastern societies alike, you see people converting to "foreign" religions. Sometimes out of rebellion, sometimes out of pretention, and sometimes out of genuine beleif. The problem is, it's hard to seperate this at times.

You see people in the west converting to eastern religions like Buddhism or Hindiusm all the time.

Some of the largest churches where I grew up were predominantly Chinese or Korean. With masses in English and one of the two other languages. In the Asian American community, Christianity has been a popular choice with troubled teens finding no solice in the confucianist/taoist/buddhist traditions of their families.


What I am trying to get at is the question of whether this is right or not. Is religion universal? Does it matter if you are a white convert to an eastern religion or an Asian convert to an Abrahamic religion?

Personally, I think there is nothing wrong with it. It shouldn't matter what race you are as long as you actually beleive it. Everyone brings their own cultural values to a religion. That's inevitable. But when you do it out of rebellion or are pretentious about it (which is very often the case) it becomes not okay. Just my opinion tho.

What do you guys think?

It's wrong to believe in a region.

Why, though? :P
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The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Jute » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:34 am

Benuty wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Simply put, of course not. One's religion is their own damn business, provided they don't shove it down my throat.

Given humans are naturally illogical beings (if Neil Degrasse Tyson is correct) then good luck with that. Because anything can be shoved down your throat not just religion.

I never understood the whole saying, and personally it seems that "shoving it in your ears" is more accurate for religions that evangelize.

It would be more appropriate for the communion wafer, maybe?
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."

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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:34 am

Jute wrote:
Webus wrote:It's wrong to believe in a region.

Why, though? :P

In before someone claims believing in regions is a form of mental illness.
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Postby Uxupox » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:36 am

Jute wrote:
Risottia wrote:I would gess you'd find plenty of people preaching Christianity (ministers of faith included) in public who have been found to be committing various kinds of capital sins quite often (usually lust, gluttony, and avarice).

Yes, and? That doesn't stop them from being Christians. Being free from sin isn't a requirement at all to be one.

Exactly. You won't find a sinfree Christian anywhere. I'm a Christian but that doesn't mean I'm free of sin. I commited of sins before particularly those of lust and envy. I try not too though.
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Postby Teemant » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:53 am

It isn't but why should anyone do it.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:59 am

Not at all
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:00 am

Teemant wrote:It isn't but why should anyone do it.

Sometimes a religion just clicks for you.
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