Texas secessionists launch petition drive

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Cause the war wasn't horrible enough.

Texas first People second

[Iberonia]

Honestly I don't think anyone will notice. While I understand the frustration Southerners have with liberal politics from the north, and the influx of "progressive" types fleeing from California turning their states into sterile copy-cats of Northern suburbs, secession won't solve anything.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss these "backwards" movements though. Every fire starts with the smallest of embers, and if people are careless about the direction this country takes we will only be fanning the flames of resentment. While people on this board like to smugly proclaim how the South is worthless without the North, don't forget that Southerners disproportionately enlist in the military compared to their softer kin up North.

If there truly ever was a second civil war, the South would mop the floor with us. People up North are a lot more "soft" these days, especially with the way the service industry has replaced labor-intensive manufacturing.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Tell me about it, there was a time in my past here where I supported secession. Quite openly actually. But that was never the reason for my flag. I use this because I am from the south, and love Star Wars, and the Rebel Alliance is my favorite faction in the GCW.

My views have since changed though.

I think the sigil of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, (you know; the one that fought for system's rights and the Outer Rim) would be more appropriate.

I actually like the CIS as well, mostly for the cool factor of those droid armies.

Perhaps it would, but the CSA and Rebel Alliance were both factions in rebellion. So, in a way it fits, plus, again it just looks awesome to me.

[The Peoples of Xaer]

For me personally, it has less to do with Texas or even secession.

It's more of a rabid distaste and anger at what I percieve as liberal attempts to force their ideology down our throats through the federal government.

That's also why im so quick to suggest starving out cities or using nuclear weapons. A strike back, if you will, at the liberals who have been so effective in their efforts in the judiciary and legislative branches.

I feel no move can be immoral, no move too extreme in order to strike back. To put the liberal efforts in this country back and create a revolutionary situation where all the efforts of the liberals are defeated and all their "progress" completely erased, and those who have supported it dealt with.

Secession would be a great opportunity to create a conservative nation, so that both sides can have their little utopias and be left to their own designs. Of course there's an element of defiance. Id rather live in an independent Texas than spend more time than I must in a country I must share with the liberal ideology.

Coming from a user flying the American flag...and opposed by a player with a heavily altered Confed Battle Flag.

What a strange world this is.

Look, Southern Nationalism, is a dead horse. It was arguably dead when it started over political divisions more than a century and a half ago. There is no liberal or conservative hive mind. And all of this, is coming from someone who is rather conservative.

There is no, war against conservatives. Are stereotypes annoying? Sure they are, but conservatives have just as many about liberals.

Secession gains the conservative elements little, and this is coming from a former member of the LoS(I do NOT say that proudly) Anyways, secession is not practical and barring some drastic national disaster is not really desirable. There are no divisive issues worth seceding over. And not much to gain from doing so.

Now, the political infighting can certainly stop. Both sides need to realize that neither side is going anywhere. And here is the best part,

we do not even have to be enemies.

I know right? All of us live, work, learn and reside in the United States of America. So, in a metaphor, we are all one team, with very different opinions. The hard part is putting ideology aside and working together for mutual benefit, the winner takes all attitude achieves nothing, and the "If I dont get my way I'll just leave/secede!" Gains nothing.

So, put the weapons away, shake hands and get comfortable because no one is going anywhere anytime soon.

Topics like this get so annoying.

Best post in thread. Bravo, sir!

[Staythefout]

Funny that this country only exists of secession from England yet laugh at the idea of Texas leaving the union. Texas is a big state and doesn't need DC.

[Grand Britannia]

Best State is at her time of the year again.

[Camelza]

I think the sigil of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, (you know; the one that fought for system's rights and the Outer Rim) would be more appropriate.

I actually like the CIS as well, mostly for the cool factor of those droid armies.

Perhaps it would, but the CSA and Rebel Alliance were both factions in rebellion. So, in a way it fits, plus, again it just looks awesome to me.

Can't argue with that.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Thanks, threads like these border on spam to me. Considering support for secession is near non existent and they often devolve into trolling and flaming. At least that is the impression I have.

Secession is cool in the RPs, downright annoying though in General though.

[Iberonia]

Funny that this country only exists of secession from England yet laugh at the idea of Texas leaving the union. Texas is a big state and doesn't need DC.

People are living in a bubble of comfort by the relative peace of the last 50 years. Things are par on course for that bubble to be popped. No amount of smug denial and refutation can dismiss the reality that the world is reacting against certain ideologies, particularly those that fall to the left of the political spectrum.

Just a little more waiting and they'll regret their cowardice when armed men march through their cities and torch their homes.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Funny that this country only exists of secession from England yet laugh at the idea of Texas leaving the union. Texas is a big state and doesn't need DC.

The laughing is not at seceding. But at people who advocate it despite the

-Lack of support of secession. A few thousand people spread across the whole of the USA is no where near worthy of discussion.
-Lack of any reason for a state to secede
-Lack of forethought in the arguments presented apart from 'We are not getting our way'
-And the ignoring that 99.9 percent of Texas, and the south, arguably have the most patriotic American flag waving supporters out there.

If there were some significant national crisis, believe me the issue would be taken more seriously. But there has not been a significant divide since the 1860s, and even then it was not necessary.

[Conserative Morality]

Funny that this country only exists of secession from England yet laugh at the idea of Texas leaving the union. Texas is a big state and doesn't need DC.

lol

[Camelza]

Funny that this country only exists of secession from England yet laugh at the idea of Texas leaving the union. Texas is a big state and doesn't need DC.

People are living in a bubble of comfort by the relative peace of the last 50 years. Things are par on course for that bubble to be popped. No amount of smug denial and refutation can dismiss the reality that the world is reacting against certain ideologies, particularly those that fall to the left of the political spectrum.

Just a little more waiting and they'll regret their cowardice when armed men march through their cities and torch their homes.

I can't tell if you're being sincere, or sarcastic.

[Ifreann]

Funny that this country only exists of secession from England yet laugh at the idea of Texas leaving the union. Texas is a big state and doesn't need DC.

They do if they want to secede.

[Iberonia]

People are living in a bubble of comfort by the relative peace of the last 50 years. Things are par on course for that bubble to be popped. No amount of smug denial and refutation can dismiss the reality that the world is reacting against certain ideologies, particularly those that fall to the left of the political spectrum.

Just a little more waiting and they'll regret their cowardice when armed men march through their cities and torch their homes.

I can't tell if you're being sincere, or sarcastic.

Look, that smugness that is so evident in you progressive types. I'm very serious, but at the same time not carrying an urgency about it. Time will show a general swing towards a rejection of the ideals sprung by the New Left and Progressive movements. The rise of the far-right in Europe once more shows that people are fed up with the new face of "Western" values, while in America there is an ever expanding divide between the rural and urban populations. We will not see secession as a serious movement, but you can damn well be assured that we'll see further social unrest as certain groups of people begin to feel utterly alienated by their neighbors and fellow citizens. This generally leads to violence through insurrection, rebellion, rioting and other manners of civil disturbance.

When it happens, I will be there with popcorn and butter.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Funny that this country only exists of secession from England yet laugh at the idea of Texas leaving the union. Texas is a big state and doesn't need DC.

They do if they want to secede.

Yeah, too bad it has been pointed out at least five times per page they do not. The petition in question could have been started by a 14 year old troll for lolz...who lives in Hawaii for what we know.

I would not doubt it.

[Camelza]

I can't tell if you're being sincere, or sarcastic.

Look, that smugness that is so evident in you progressive types. I'm very serious, but at the same time not carrying an urgency about it. Time will show a general swing towards a rejection of the ideals sprung by the New Left and Progressive movements. The rise of the far-right in Europe once more shows that people are fed up with the new face of "Western" values, while in America there is an ever expanding divide between the rural and urban populations. We will not see secession as a serious movement, but you can damn well be assured that we'll see further social unrest as certain groups of people begin to feel utterly alienated by their neighbors and fellow citizens. This generally leads to violence through insurrection, rebellion, rioting and other manners of civil disturbance.

When it happens, I will be there with popcorn and butter.

You conveniently forgot that in Europe there is an even bigger rise of left-wing forces, but nevermind that because both are effects of the economic crisis and when the crisis fades away so will parties with ideas that are not considered moderate.
Also...
If you'll be sitting on your armchair and buttering up your popcorn, who will be torching the libruhls' houses? See, all talk and no action, and it better stay that way.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Look, that smugness that is so evident in you progressive types. I'm very serious, but at the same time not carrying an urgency about it. Time will show a general swing towards a rejection of the ideals sprung by the New Left and Progressive movements. The rise of the far-right in Europe once more shows that people are fed up with the new face of "Western" values, while in America there is an ever expanding divide between the rural and urban populations. We will not see secession as a serious movement, but you can damn well be assured that we'll see further social unrest as certain groups of people begin to feel utterly alienated by their neighbors and fellow citizens. This generally leads to violence through insurrection, rebellion, rioting and other manners of civil disturbance.

When it happens, I will be there with popcorn and butter.

You conveniently forgot that in Europe there is an even bigger rise of left-wing forces, but nevermind that because both are effects of the economic crisis and when the crisis fades away so will parties with ideas that are not considered moderate.
Also...
If you'll be sitting on your armchair and buttering up your popcorn, who will be torching the libruhls' houses? See, all talk and no action, and it better stay that way.

Nah man, this is the information age. They will tweet those pesky liberals out. That'l show em.

[Pandeeria]

We should let Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana secede and form Jesusland. In Jesusland, they can be as hyper conservative, ultra-Christian as they want. All of the hyper conservatives upset with the current status of the US can move to their desired utopia that is Jesusland, and the rest of the US can start liberalizing more.

/s

[Iberonia]

Look, that smugness that is so evident in you progressive types. I'm very serious, but at the same time not carrying an urgency about it. Time will show a general swing towards a rejection of the ideals sprung by the New Left and Progressive movements. The rise of the far-right in Europe once more shows that people are fed up with the new face of "Western" values, while in America there is an ever expanding divide between the rural and urban populations. We will not see secession as a serious movement, but you can damn well be assured that we'll see further social unrest as certain groups of people begin to feel utterly alienated by their neighbors and fellow citizens. This generally leads to violence through insurrection, rebellion, rioting and other manners of civil disturbance.

When it happens, I will be there with popcorn and butter.

You conveniently forgot that in Europe there is an even bigger rise of left-wing forces, but nevermind that because both are effects of the economic crisis and when the crisis fades away so will parties with ideas that are not considered moderate.
Also...
If you'll be sitting on your armchair and buttering up your popcorn, who will be torching the libruhls' houses? See, all talk and no action, and it better stay that way.

1. The left in Europe is biting the dust buddy, all denominations of the left spectrum. Greece, Sweden, Spain and many others are going to see an end to the prominence of leftist governments. They will be marginalized, and hopefully, forgotten.

2. I'll be watching and seeing. It'd be in poor taste for me to advocate everyone to start readying up for a revolution and begin brandishing their weapons and forming paramilitary organizations. If the government doesn't respond or fails to, I'll be throwing my lot with the reactionary elements. I'm not interested in a "progressive" America, and there are plenty with grumbling voices right now. Throw a little more political deadlock and the frustration will lead to anger and eventually open revolt.

[The Rebel Alliances]

We should let Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana secede and form Jesusland. In Jesusland, they can be as hyper conservative, ultra-Christian as they want. All of the hyper conservatives upset with the current status of the US can move to their desired utopia that is Jesusland, and the rest of the US can start liberalizing more.

/s

Really Pandeer? You do realize their are large amounts of conservatives throughout the whole of the country right?

Also...I am in Louisiana.

Anyways, this conservative vs liberal who wins deal is old.

Both sides need to learn to work with people who dont agree with them on everything.

[Pandeeria]

We should let Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana secede and form Jesusland. In Jesusland, they can be as hyper conservative, ultra-Christian as they want. All of the hyper conservatives upset with the current status of the US can move to their desired utopia that is Jesusland, and the rest of the US can start liberalizing more.

/s

Really Pandeer? You do realize their are large amounts of conservatives throughout the whole of the country right?

Also...I am in Louisiana.

Anyways, this conservative vs liberal who wins deal is old.

Both sides need to learn to work with people who dont agree with them on everything.

Perhaps you did not catch the "/s" .

Or perhaps you're so insanely progressive that you took it as a serious solution.

[Internationalist Bastard]

We should let Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana secede and form Jesusland. In Jesusland, they can be as hyper conservative, ultra-Christian as they want. All of the hyper conservatives upset with the current status of the US can move to their desired utopia that is Jesusland, and the rest of the US can start liberalizing more.

/s

Really Pandeer? You do realize their are large amounts of conservatives throughout the whole of the country right?

Also...I am in Louisiana.

Anyways, this conservative vs liberal who wins deal is old.

Both sides need to learn to work with people who dont agree with them on everything.

Thank you, compromise is literally hated these days

[The Rebel Alliances]

Really Pandeer? You do realize their are large amounts of conservatives throughout the whole of the country right?

Also...I am in Louisiana.

Anyways, this conservative vs liberal who wins deal is old.

Both sides need to learn to work with people who dont agree with them on everything.

Perhaps you did not catch the "/s" .

Or perhaps you're so insanely progressive that you took it as a serious solution.

No...I missed the 's' anyways. We have history man, you know I am not 'insanely progressive'. At least I hope you remember me at least that much.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Really Pandeer? You do realize their are large amounts of conservatives throughout the whole of the country right?

Also...I am in Louisiana.

Anyways, this conservative vs liberal who wins deal is old.

Both sides need to learn to work with people who dont agree with them on everything.

Thank you, compromise is literally hated these days

Because, people 'have' to 'win'. When this involves governance of a nation, this is almost never a useful attitude and only drives a wedge the size of the Grand Canyon between the belligerent parties and crap like the Civil War happens.

[Pandeeria]

Perhaps you did not catch the "/s" .

Or perhaps you're so insanely progressive that you took it as a serious solution.

No...I missed the 's' anyways. We have history man, you know I am not 'insanely progressive'. At least I hope you remember me at least that much.

As others on this form have argued before, you can be both Conservative and Progressive, or at least right-wing and progressive.

I personally don't think you can be Conservative and Progressive, but others would disagree.

I'm content at least with how things are, geographically speaking. I don't want Texas nor Louisiana to secede.