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Immoren
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:09 pm

Kannap wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Now it started playing in my head again. Now I need to listen it after this song ends.
Thanks.


You're welcome.


"On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night
There she stood in the doorway;
I heard the mission bell
And I was thinking to myself,
'This could be Heaven or this could be Hell'
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor,
I thought I heard them say...

Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the Hotel California
Any time of year (Any time of year)
You can find it here

Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes bends
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat.
Some dance to remember, some dance to forget

So I called up the Captain,
'Please bring me my wine'
He said, "We haven't had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine"
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Wake you up in the middle of the night

Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice
And she said 'We are all just prisoners here, of our own device'
And in the master's chambers,
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can't kill the beast

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
'Relax, ' said the night man,
'We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave! '"
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Republic of Canador
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Ex-Nation

Postby Republic of Canador » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:09 pm

Valyrian Freeholds wrote:
Ava Ire wrote:I thought you were neutral towards it?


Yes, thinking for oneself is lovely. I'm fine being politically unaligned, but it feels good to belong.


I really don't like Ayn Rand.


I won't tell you who to like or who not to like, but Objectivism is libertarian.

No, it's really not the same thing.
Ideologically a Voluntaryist Anarcho Capitalist
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Use male or female pronouns. I don't give a shit.
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Ava Ire
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Ava Ire » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:10 pm

Valyrian Freeholds wrote:
Ava Ire wrote:I thought you were neutral towards it?


Yes, thinking for oneself is lovely. I'm fine being politically unaligned, but it feels good to belong.


I really don't like Ayn Rand.


I won't tell you who to like or who not to like, but Objectivism is libertarian.

I think there's non-Objectivist Libertarianism though...
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Kannap
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kannap » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:10 pm

Can the folks in the neighboring room cease and desist relocating their furniture.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Katyuscha » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:10 pm

Kannap wrote:Can the folks in the neighboring room cease and desist relocating their furniture.

No
Very soft
Song

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Val Halla
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Ex-Nation

Postby Val Halla » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:11 pm

Ava Ire wrote:To be a Libertarian, or to not be one...hmm....

Not be one.

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Allancia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Allancia » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:11 pm

Kannap wrote:Can the folks in the neighboring room cease and desist relocating their furniture.

The screeching is real, I assume.
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Immoren
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:11 pm

Kannap wrote:Can the folks in the neighboring room cease and desist relocating their furniture.


Time to start banging the walls with hammer and/or drilling them with power drill.
IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Ava Ire
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Postby Ava Ire » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:11 pm

Barboneia wrote:
Ava Ire wrote:I thought you were neutral towards it?

Nope. I just haven't updated the ol' pro anti in a bit.

You should.
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Barboneia
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Barboneia » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:11 pm

Ava Ire wrote:
Barboneia wrote:Nope. I just haven't updated the ol' pro anti in a bit.

You should.

I just did.
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Republic of Canador
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Postby Republic of Canador » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:12 pm

Ava Ire wrote:To be a Libertarian, or to not be one...hmm....

Be like me; ideologically I am pure libertarian, though it is more of a utopian view. In practice I am much more liberal.
Ideologically a Voluntaryist Anarcho Capitalist
Anti Globalist Anti Nationalist Anti Socialist

MUH ROADS

Use male or female pronouns. I don't give a shit.
It's Kanadorika, not Canador

THE PARTY SEES ALL, KNOWS ALL, DESTROYS ALL
What happens when a paranoid, murderous psychopath rules over a nation with absolute power and kills anyone seen as "corrupted"? Kanadorika
What the critics are saying about Kanadorika:
Lichian wrote:Don't go. Stay at home. If forced to go, pray that you don't mess up. Pray that the government doesn't see you. And pray that you don't just end up getting shot for fun.

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Valyrian Freeholds
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Postby Valyrian Freeholds » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:12 pm

Republic of Canador wrote:
Valyrian Freeholds wrote:
I won't tell you who to like or who not to like, but Objectivism is libertarian.

No, it's really not the same thing.


Objectivism is the pursuit of your selfish desires and that the government should not limit your ability to pursue such desires

How is that not a libertarian strand of thought.
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If we're right, people lose homes. People lose jobs. People lose retirement savings, people lose pensions. You know what I hate about f*cking banking? It reduces people to numbers. Here's a number - every 1% unemployment goes up, 40,000 people die, did you know that? - The Big Short

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Immoren
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:14 pm

I still haven't created that random number generator that'll picks me candidate to vote in the elections.
IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Kannap
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kannap » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:15 pm

Katyuscha wrote:
Kannap wrote:Can the folks in the neighboring room cease and desist relocating their furniture.

No


I wasn't asking you.
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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:15 pm

Immoren wrote:
Kannap wrote:Can the folks in the neighboring room cease and desist relocating their furniture.


Time to start banging the walls with hammer and/or drilling them with power drill.


Or neither of those because I don't feel like paying for new walls
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
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.::The List of National Sports::.
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Ava Ire
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Ava Ire » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:16 pm

Barboneia wrote:
Ava Ire wrote:You should.

I just did.

We starkly disagree on so many things! :p
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:16 pm

Immoren wrote:I still haven't created that random number generator that'll picks me candidate to vote in the elections.

Vote for me. There look how much time I saved you.
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Immoren
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:16 pm

Kannap wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Time to start banging the walls with hammer and/or drilling them with power drill.


Or neither of those because I don't feel like paying for new walls


I didn't tell you to break the walls, silly.
IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Barboneia
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Barboneia » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:16 pm

Ava Ire wrote:
Barboneia wrote:I just did.

We starkly disagree on so many things! :p

Yeah, no shit.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Republic of Canador » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:17 pm

Valyrian Freeholds wrote:
Republic of Canador wrote:No, it's really not the same thing.


Objectivism is the pursuit of your selfish desires and that the government should not limit your ability to pursue such desires

How is that not a libertarian strand of thought.

They may have similar results, but the two ideologies derive from seperate sources. Libertarianism (at least the form I pursue) puts a more egalitarian approach to how liberty is dispersed. True objectivism holds beliefs of primitivism.
Last edited by Republic of Canador on Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Ideologically a Voluntaryist Anarcho Capitalist
Anti Globalist Anti Nationalist Anti Socialist

MUH ROADS

Use male or female pronouns. I don't give a shit.
It's Kanadorika, not Canador

THE PARTY SEES ALL, KNOWS ALL, DESTROYS ALL
What happens when a paranoid, murderous psychopath rules over a nation with absolute power and kills anyone seen as "corrupted"? Kanadorika
What the critics are saying about Kanadorika:
Lichian wrote:Don't go. Stay at home. If forced to go, pray that you don't mess up. Pray that the government doesn't see you. And pray that you don't just end up getting shot for fun.

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Kannap
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kannap » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:18 pm

Immoren wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Or neither of those because I don't feel like paying for new walls


I didn't tell you to break the walls, silly.


I somehow doubt their ability against a hammer. They've been there for some time and the college is working on hoping to renovate the whole dorm building within the next two years.
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T H E M O U N T A I N S A R E C A L L I N G A N D I M U S T G O
G A Y S I N C E 1 9 9 7
.::The List of National Sports::.
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Barboneia
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Postby Barboneia » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:18 pm

Juha Sipilä has huge hands...
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Postby Valyrian Freeholds » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:19 pm

Republic of Canador wrote:
Valyrian Freeholds wrote:
Objectivism is the pursuit of your selfish desires and that the government should not limit your ability to pursue such desires

How is that not a libertarian strand of thought.

They may have similar results, but the two ideologies derive from seperate sources. Libertarianism (at least the form I pursue) pits a more egalitarian approach to how liberty is dispersed. True objectivism holds beliefs of primitivism.


In a sense Objectivism seeks to change the view of selfishness, into the pursuit of your highest abilities and achievements with rational means, also respecting other people's desires, as sorta summarised in my Sig Quote.
For: Capitalism, Third Way Politics, Authoritarianism, Globalization, Individualism, Freedom of speech, Secular Government, Egalitarianism, Meritocracy, Social Housing, Civic Nationalism, Keynesian Capitalism, Bees, Social Democracy
Meh: Stalinism, Maoism, Russia, NATO, Iran, Fascism
Against: Communism, Welfare Chauvinism,Diversity quotas, Anarchy, Uninformed Electorate, Hereditary positions, Trump
Is it bees?! IS IT BEES?!!!


If we're right, people lose homes. People lose jobs. People lose retirement savings, people lose pensions. You know what I hate about f*cking banking? It reduces people to numbers. Here's a number - every 1% unemployment goes up, 40,000 people die, did you know that? - The Big Short

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Immoren
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:20 pm

Kannap wrote:
Immoren wrote:
I didn't tell you to break the walls, silly.


I somehow doubt their ability against a hammer. They've been there for some time and the college is working on hoping to renovate the whole dorm building within the next two years.


Use a toy hammer then.
IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:21 pm

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