What's wrong with saying I'm American?

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Finnish is orcish not nordic tho.

I thought finnish was elvish, and that there are, consequently, no finnish men.

[The Two Jerseys]

6 consonants in a row, nice. How is it pronounced?

The same way you pronounce anything in a Nordic language: gibber incoherently and pray to your deity of choice that it actually means something.

I'm kidding. Mostly.

Does it require as much phlegm as Welsh does?

[Confederate Ramenia]

Speaking of Finland, are you aware that Finland is the heir of the Roman Empire?

[Cannabis Islands]

Nothing.
/End thread.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Speaking of Finland, are you aware that Finland is the heir of the Roman Empire?

That would be America, and we come full circle to the topic at hand. America, combining the Republican Virtues with Imperial Might.

[Sun Wukong]

Speaking of Finland, are you aware that Finland is the heir of the Roman Empire?

Along with the other 9 million or so claimants.

[Confederate Ramenia]

Speaking of Finland, are you aware that Finland is the heir of the Roman Empire?

That would be America, and we come full circle to the topic at hand. America, combining the Republican Virtues with Imperial Might.

Argument for American Translatio Imperii:
Rome becomes the Western Roman Empire.
WRE is kill by barbarians.
Barbarians become the Holy RE, and inherit the imperium.
HRE killed by civil war, invasions and collapse.
HRE Emperor founds Austrian Empire.
AE becomes Austro-Hungarian Empire.
AHE is kill by America.
Following precedent of the HRE, America has the Imperium and is the heir of the Roman Empire.

Argument for Finnish Translatio Imperii:
Roman capital moves to Byzantium
Byzantium kill by Turks
Byzantine Church moves to Russia
Russia becomes Third Rome because of the Church
Russia kill by Communism
Finland stays independent and non-commie
Finland is last remnant of Russia/Rome, therefore Finland is Rome

Decide for yourself.

[Stellonia]

I wonder how this is relevant to this thread.

[Yorkvale]

Nothing, say it with pride

[Democratic Republic of Kaliria]

Nope. I live outside of the USA but still within the American continent, and I refer to the nation as the USA and their people as Americans.

[Wallonochia]

To understand Aelex you guys have to understand that the French have a very bizarre view on language in general. They have this need to classify languages into a hierarchy, where French is of course naturally at or near the top. It's really gross display of nationalist, cultural and often ethnic chauvinism, made worse by the fact that most Frenchmen think it's not nationalism but objective truth. In that it's not so different from those "race realists" who honestly think they're not racist because their garbage pseudoscience supports their claims that the white man really is better than black people.

There are a number of reasons for this, of course. The French language was used to unify (although the French often confuse unity and uniformity) the disparate peoples living within the Hexagon and convincing them that French was inherently superior to their language was a pretty helpful technique. People who grew up in the 60s and 70s lived through the tail end of the state's overt campaign to kill its minority cultures so they generally unquestioningly believe in French's superiority. Young people (apart from Aelex apparently) believe it less but that sort of subtle nationalism is extremely pernicious. If French people were to come to terms with the normalcy of French then they'd have to come to terms with the state's campaign of cultural genocide within Metropolitan France and in the colonies and France just isn't ready for that.

Source: I've lived in France for several years.

A good example of French people's strange views on language: Aelex, could you tell us the difference between langue, patois and dialecte and perhaps give us an example of each?

You're playing the race card in the first paragraph? Really? Like this straight? Well, I won't go about how much it's lazy than to use it like that and instead'll try to answer this equivalent of Godwin's point but this post ain't honestly starting well.
Anyway, you're overthinking a very simple thing which is that one will most of the time prefer it's own language. It's a basic social reflex which induce nationalism and chauvinism, rather than being the cause of them as you mistook, and which is called "Communitarianism"; people will tend to assemble themselves in group and denigrate what isn't part of the said groups. Now, once again, it's not specially a french thing but rather an human one. Just ask the same thing to your average British or U.S citizen and they'll probably put English on the top of their own pedestal and say all the others languages are ugly.

Other racists have similar dumb ideas, so what's wrong with the the racist shit I say? - a Frenchman

Now, to go with the awful comparison you made, you may notice that; outside from it's stupidity; it's based on the false hypothesis that we're trying, as the racialists did, to prove French to be superior language and that by using pseudo-scientifics tools. And here is the problem. Because literally no one except some nuts in the 19th ever did that, and especially not me. Now, I indeed stated that I found French to be a better language than English by exemple, but I also precised multiple time that it was an emotional and biased statement, which I never tried to prove, by the way, by using any pseudoscience nor bullshit of the like.
So, sorry for you but no. Despite your strawman, no comparison with racialism is possible.

Racialism is a bullshit, pseuodoscientific concept, as are your dumb emotional views on language.

But before I can continue, I need to clarify something which, despite your allegation of having lived in France, you don't seem to have understood. This thing is the very notion of nationalism and patriotism and the French "approach" of them.
What is the difference between them you may ask? Well it's simple : "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.".
So, no, I'm not brainwashed neither do are people who were born in the 60' or 70' (even tought they were subject to what was indeed almost propaganda) and like, indeed, most of the young people I have a critic eye on my country and the mistakes it did, especially on something I experience firsthand as a student which is called "Civical Education" and which is basically the remain of what was once State's propaganda. But that doesn't mean I'll let people spit on my country.
I'll say that my état d'esprit, which contrary to what you're saying is the norm rather than the exception, can be summed up to this quote from Cyrano of Begerac (which I translated awfully) "There is nothing that I like more than having a friend criticizing me but there is nothing that I hate more than having a stranger doing the same."

Sorry man, but you are brainwashed, at least as much as these Americans you feel so superior to. I currently live in France (it's not surprising you have issues with tenses in English, they're much more complicated than in French) and since I have the audacity to speak Breton in public I've been subjected to a fair bit of "We speak French in France" sentiment. This happens on several occasions every year (I've lived in France for five years now) both without and without Brittany.

This said, I can go back to your second point where you make another mistake of interpretation which need me to put things in perspective so you can understand your error.
French, to the contrary of English or Irish, never was a nationality properly speaking as they were no real "ethnically" french people. The French were only the Frankish who settled and "breeded" with the locals which they ruled over.
For a long time, being French was only a noble concept, and every little lord, that he was Picard, Occitan or Normand, invented himself some filliation with one of the said Frankish conquerers and that was enough for him to be considered french and to add prestige to his name.
But as time passed and the Renaissance shown up, as well as the primitive concept of "nation", the notion of being french became more and more "universalist" and popular.
It grown and grown 'till the Révolution Française where it eventually reached it's paroxysm. At this time, 1/2 of the population, peasants for most parts as the people living in the city were already mostly talking in french, was still talking in Patois yet most of them were considering themselves as French. And that, for the simple reason that, since basically the 17th century, one was French not by birth but simply by behaving and talking as one. One could be born in Rennes and only able to baragouine one or two words yet still feel as French as a Titi from Paris. It's this ideal which impregned the Universalist First République and could still be found nowadays.

You come so close to understanding and then veer off into crazytown. The fact that you use the disgusting and racist term "baragouine" says a lot about you.

Anyway, to get back to your second point and the supposed "remorses" we should feel from destroying the Patois, it's making me kinda smile.
Yes what Jules Ferry did was an attempt to destroy the differents Patois and managed to do so. But this assimilation was done by offering free and laïc schools to kids so they can educate themselves and maybe rise from their parents' situation, a thing quite unknown of before. And not by separating children from their family and putting them into pensions were they were treated as animals and a good lot of them died.
I think that in term of "assimilating the local", France actually did a lot better than the U.S.

And, to answer your last question; to give you my personnal definition :- A Langue is the official language of the state, spoke by the majority of the population. Ex : Français
- A Patois is a, somewhat recognized by the state, language spoke by the majority of the local population of some part of a country. It has no relation with the Langue. Ex : Arpitan
-A Dialecte is a, somewhat recognized by the state, language spoke by the majority of the local population of some part of a country. It is the mix between the Patois and the Langues were the later had or is assimilating the first but some vocabulary (argots) or grammatical forms from it are still partially present in the "mix" of the two languages. Ex : Lyonnais

Just look at this. You think that a state's position towards languages has any relevance at all towards the language's importance. You have no understanding of linguistics, I strongly suggest you do some research before speaking futrher on the subject. Here's a decent video (in French so you can actually understand) that should help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCJ_chtaUkk

[Buckfastistan]

Literally nothing, but I see where the Columbian guy is coming from though.

[Southern Babylonia]

I can only give the Canadian perspective: It's okay now, we don't really want to call ourselves American at this point anyway.

[Zrhajan]

I'll put my view on this matter this way. In Germany, one of the most common terms I've heard to describe people from the USA is "Amerikaner", which technically means Americans.

[Librica (Ancient)]

I kinda do see the problem. Our country shares a name with the continent that it resides in. I move to change the name of our country to Librica.

[Rio Cana]

Literally nothing, but I see where the Columbian guy is coming from though.

Yes I must respond. Its Colombia not Columbia. Columbia is in Canada.

See this - http://www.canadamaps.info/maps/british ... calmap.jpg

[Aelex]

Other racists have similar dumb ideas, so what's wrong with the the racist shit I say? - a Frenchman

I love to say things who have no rapport whatsoever with what people were saying previously so I could avoid answering their point - a strawman loving expatriate

Racialism is a bullshit, pseuodoscientific concept, as are your dumb emotional views on language.

'Cause of course saying that I prefer my country's language could in no way come from the fact that I appreciate it's sonority or sounding but is rather the result of a mindless and stupid nationalism which hold on litteraly no bases. I hope that you have at least some argument to explain me in what the English language is so superior or I will simply call that another case of "Do what I say and no what I'm doing".

Sorry man, but you are brainwashed, at least as much as these Americans you feel so superior to. I currently live in France (it's not surprising you have issues with tenses in English, they're much more complicated than in French) and since I have the audacity to speak Breton in public I've been subjected to a fair bit of "We speak French in France" sentiment. This happens on several occasions every year (I've lived in France for five years now) both without and without Brittany.

You know dude, it's not by repeating that I'm brain-washed again and again that it'll make it more true, even if you wish it would. It's totally possible to have opinions who ain't the same as your without being a mindless puppet.
I don't really have the habit of answering mindless aggressivity but since it made me really laugh, I'll make an exception. Here are the English tenses and Here are the french ones. Not only the english ones are simpler to learn and use but they are also fewer. So yeah but no. It's not something we really should be happy of but french definitely is more difficult.
And as for the Breton, speaking in it is basically the same thing as speaking in Espanol in the U.S.
If you start to talk it in a region where there is a high number of native Spanish speaker, nobody will give a crap but if you start to do the same in a region where they are few, you'll get some weird looks.

Still, I'm honestly quite puzzled because I don't know if you're purposely ignore the fact that it's, once again, a thing common to fucking everyone just for the sake of hating on french or if you're just so racist that you don't see it anymore.

You come so close to understanding and then veer off into crazytown. The fact that you use the disgusting and racist term "baragouine" says a lot about you.

I really like how you just throw a peremptory sentence while completely ignoring all I said and just do as if you made a point when you just really dodged mine.
Anyway, you once more misused the "good-old race card" just to try to make a point. And once more you didn't even used it rightly.
If I used the terme "petit-nègre" to refer to broken french, THEN, you would have had at least some bases on which you could have relied to treat me of racist but baragouiner has, I'm sorry to tell you, no pejorative connotation since a long time.

Just look at this. You think that a state's position towards languages has any relevance at all towards the language's importance. You have no understanding of linguistics, I strongly suggest you do some research before speaking futrher on the subject.

Honestly, what the flying fuck are you saying dude? Of course the state's position toward a language has a goddamn relevance toward the language's recognition and use by the State! It's freaking obvious!

[The Liberated Territories]

I prefer the original poetic name - Columbia.

Colombians can fuck off.

[Salus Maior]

I kinda do see the problem. Our country shares a name with the continent that it resides in. I move to change the name of our country to Librica.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

Edit: And so does Australia. And India (well, sub-continent).