European Migrant Crisis Megathread

[Eol Sha]

Is there any way for the EU to pressure them into doing it?

Do that, and then they won't follow suit definately, period, whatever.

Croatia last year had decreased illegal immigrants by 26%?(some say lower while other higher and I just say a "middle" number), Hungary is building a wall on Serbia to stop their influx of refugees and Bulgaria followed suit on the Turkish border, Czech police beats the shit out of the illegal immigrants in a detention center and this is only.... the beginning.

I totally agree. Anti-immigrant feelings are rising in Europe and I don't think there's much the EU can do about it. It'll be up to the people and the national governments to change their ways. In the mean time Brussels is going to have to watch quietly while Europe falls into an increasingly authoritarian pit.

[Geilinor]

Do that, and then they won't follow suit definately, period, whatever.

Croatia last year had decreased illegal immigrants by 26%?(some say lower while other higher and I just say a "middle" number), Hungary is building a wall on Serbia to stop their influx of refugees and Bulgaria followed suit on the Turkish border, Czech police beats the shit out of the illegal immigrants in a detention center and this is only.... the beginning.

I totally agree. Anti-immigrant feelings are rising in Europe and I don't think there's much the EU can do about it. It'll be up to the people and the national governments to change their ways. In the mean time Brussels is going to have to watch quietly while Europe falls into an increasingly authoritarian pit.

The trend towards racist authoritarianism in Europe is very disturbing.

[Archegnum]

Racism will rise alot, with elections in my country this September; I believe the nationalist(aka Golden Dawn) will become the third and very strong political party in the parliament. We have almost a million homeless and our government and other leftist parties/organizations which I used to be a member care more about helping them while we can't help ourselves. The prefect recipe for a humanatarian and political crisis. Last night on the news channel two pakistanis raped a 14 year old girl in Lesbos; as a result the local residents have asked the government to contain these immigrants only to be turned down and NOW they are asking help from Golden Dawn. Needless to say Golden Dawn answered the very same day promising to send a contigency of volunteer "stormtroopers" by the end of the month: latest, although many news reporters say that the will be there by the end of this week stating that they misinform the public so that the police and other government services won't try stop them.

Much as I dislike your socialist government, a fascist one is far worst. I wish Greece luck in avoiding this terrible fate.

[Iwassoclose]

Social workers will never have to worry about getting a job lol

[Laerod]

People who help these migrants escape their gruesome conditions in Africa are being condemned as "human traffickers", as if they were selling the people into slavery.

That is demonizing and deliberately misleading.

The real criminals are the EU crowd who are indifferent to human suffering.

That's not actually true. Locking people into a boat and letting them suffocate or ransoming them off after taking them some place is quite evil and you shouldn't be claiming the contrary.

[Rio Cana]

More like "read".

well I'd imagine germans would try to stick to towns were they can speak german, like Zurich.

Its like the Austrian-Germans that stuck together. The following shows the only united community of Austrian-Germans outside of Austria. Community is 156 years old. Who would guess that there is a community of Austrian-Germans in the jungles of central Peru.

Video of the town which is called Pozuzo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYklQC2g63U

This following short video which is a must see, its really well made, shows Oaxpampa which is the province Pozuzo is located in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcREBoJ3kx8

[Ifreann]

well I'd imagine germans would try to stick to towns were they can speak german, like Zurich.

Its like the Austrian-Germans that stuck together. The following shows the only united community of Austrian-Germans outside of Austria. Community is 156 years old. Who would guess that there is a community of Austrian-Germans in the jungles of central Peru.

Video of the town which is called Pozuzo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYklQC2g63U

This following short video which is a must see, its really well made, shows Oaxpampa which is the province Pozuzo is located in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcREBoJ3kx8

Are you being paid by the Peruvian tourist board?

[Rio Cana]

Its like the Austrian-Germans that stuck together. The following shows the only united community of Austrian-Germans outside of Austria. Community is 156 years old. Who would guess that there is a community of Austrian-Germans in the jungles of central Peru.

Video of the town which is called Pozuzo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYklQC2g63U

This following short video which is a must see, its really well made, shows Oaxpampa which is the province Pozuzo is located in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcREBoJ3kx8

Are you being paid by the Peruvian tourist board?

No by the Oaxpampa provincial tourist board. Just kidding!

At least those Austrian-Germans immigrants did not have to go through WW I or WW II.

[The Conez Imperium]

I totally agree. Anti-immigrant feelings are rising in Europe and I don't think there's much the EU can do about it. It'll be up to the people and the national governments to change their ways. In the mean time Brussels is going to have to watch quietly while Europe falls into an increasingly authoritarian pit.

The trend towards racist authoritarianism in Europe is very disturbing.

Hmm, yes totally agree with you. It's also funny than in my backyard Australia, the Government threw an absolute hissy fit because roughly 1 000 people traveled across the Indian ocean to Australia on a boat.

How well would this poster be received in Europe?

[New Werpland]

The trend towards racist authoritarianism in Europe is very disturbing.

Hmm, yes totally agree with you. It's also funny than in my backyard Australia, the Government threw an absolute hissy fit because roughly 1 000 people traveled across the Indian ocean to Australia on a boat.

How well would this poster be received in Europe?

Well you could always send them to Nauru...

[Sam Hyde]

800,000

holy fucking shit.

It was nice knowing you, Germany.

Then again, maybe the West deserves this for overthrowing Gaddafi.

[Tierra Prime]

I totally agree. Anti-immigrant feelings are rising in Europe and I don't think there's much the EU can do about it. It'll be up to the people and the national governments to change their ways. In the mean time Brussels is going to have to watch quietly while Europe falls into an increasingly authoritarian pit.

The trend towards racist authoritarianism in Europe is very disturbing.

That's what happens when you open the doors and let absolutely anyone in. It was fine when we just let in specialists, there was always a place for the educated.

I can understand giving asylum seekers temporary accommodation before we send them somewhere else, but why do we have to let them stay? They aren't our citizens.

[Sam Hyde]

I totally agree. Anti-immigrant feelings are rising in Europe and I don't think there's much the EU can do about it. It'll be up to the people and the national governments to change their ways. In the mean time Brussels is going to have to watch quietly while Europe falls into an increasingly authoritarian pit.

The trend towards racist authoritarianism in Europe is very disturbing.

What did people think would happen when they brought in some of the most violent, backwards people into Europe? That Europeans would embrace diversity?

[Great Nepal]

The trend towards racist authoritarianism in Europe is very disturbing.

That's what happens when you open the doors and let absolutely anyone in. It was fine when we just let in specialists, there was always a place for the educated.

I can understand giving asylum seekers temporary accommodation before we send them somewhere else, but why do we have to let them stay? They aren't our citizens.

Where's this 'somewhere else'?

[Tierra Prime]

That's what happens when you open the doors and let absolutely anyone in. It was fine when we just let in specialists, there was always a place for the educated.

I can understand giving asylum seekers temporary accommodation before we send them somewhere else, but why do we have to let them stay? They aren't our citizens.

Where's this 'somewhere else'?

What do you think? Tunisia, Algeria, ect. Other Arab countries, preferably friendly ones.

[Sam Hyde]

That's what happens when you open the doors and let absolutely anyone in. It was fine when we just let in specialists, there was always a place for the educated.

I can understand giving asylum seekers temporary accommodation before we send them somewhere else, but why do we have to let them stay? They aren't our citizens.

Where's this 'somewhere else'?

From the looks of it, Germany.

[Eol Sha]

Where's this 'somewhere else'?

What do you think? Tunisia, Algeria, ect. Other Arab countries, preferably friendly ones.

None of those countries can even remotely handle the level of refugees fleeing conflict and oppression. The neighbor countries, not Europe, are receiving the bulk of the refugees already.

[Great Nepal]

Where's this 'somewhere else'?

What do you think? Tunisia, Algeria, ect. Other Arab countries, preferably friendly ones.

Why do you expect they'd be any more welcoming, especially given their economic situation is worse than European ones?

[Republic of Canador]

Nothing wrong with immigration or accepting those seeking asylum, though it does sometimes have an unfortunate effect of diminishing cultural heritage for both groups. Cultural assimilation and sharing can be great, no doubt about it; but it's a shame when a distinct culture becomes less prominent and meshes into some undistinguished mixture of cultures.

That said, Germany doesn't seem to be at risk of cultural loss anyways.

[Geilinor]

The trend towards racist authoritarianism in Europe is very disturbing.

Hmm, yes totally agree with you. It's also funny than in my backyard Australia, the Government threw an absolute hissy fit because roughly 1 000 people traveled across the Indian ocean to Australia on a boat.

How well would this poster be received in Europe?

Send the refugees to Australia. I don't know how, but Abbott needs to be trolled. So does the un-liberal Liberal Party (yes, I know the Liberals are conservative).

[Tierra Prime]

What do you think? Tunisia, Algeria, ect. Other Arab countries, preferably friendly ones.

None of those countries can even remotely handle the level of refugees fleeing conflict and oppression. Especially with them receiving the bulk of the refugees already.

That's not Europe's problem. Refugees should be given temporary accommodation and any medical care they need, and then deported. We don't have a moral or legal obligation to accept them as citizens. The majority of them can't speak our languages and have no skills. Yes, it's terrible they have to flee their homes, but civil wars in foreign countries are not Europe's problem.

[Tierra Prime]

What do you think? Tunisia, Algeria, ect. Other Arab countries, preferably friendly ones.

Why do you expect they'd be any more welcoming, especially given their economic situation is worse than European ones?

Why should we be welcoming these people? We don't need more welfare drains.

[New Werpland]

Nothing wrong with immigration or accepting those seeking asylum, though it does sometimes have an unfortunate effect of diminishing cultural heritage for both groups. Cultural assimilation and sharing can be great, no doubt about it; but it's a shame when a distinct culture becomes less prominent and meshes into some undistinguished mixture of cultures.

That said, Germany doesn't seem to be at risk of cultural loss anyways.

They've embraced Interculturalism the most out of all European nations, though they still need to adjust their welfare state a bit.

[Zoscua]

Nothing wrong with immigration or accepting those seeking asylum, though it does sometimes have an unfortunate effect of diminishing cultural heritage for both groups. Cultural assimilation and sharing can be great, no doubt about it; but it's a shame when a distinct culture becomes less prominent and meshes into some undistinguished mixture of cultures.

That said, Germany doesn't seem to be at risk of cultural loss anyways.

This seems like a pretty irrelevant concern considering that

1.) Cultural heritage is less important than alleviating human suffering

and

2.) Cultures change all the time anyway

[New Werpland]

Nothing wrong with immigration or accepting those seeking asylum, though it does sometimes have an unfortunate effect of diminishing cultural heritage for both groups. Cultural assimilation and sharing can be great, no doubt about it; but it's a shame when a distinct culture becomes less prominent and meshes into some undistinguished mixture of cultures.

That said, Germany doesn't seem to be at risk of cultural loss anyways.

This seems like a pretty irrelevant concern considering that

1.) Cultural heritage is less important than alleviating human suffering

and

2.) Cultures change all the time anyway

1.) Culture heritage is an important factor in how well immigrants are going to be received by the nations they enter. Ignoring it is what in part caused Fundamentalism in second generation immigrants across EU.

2.) No they don't, although that's irrelevant. Germans aren't going to open themselves up to any old immigrant population because "welp culture is pretty erratic anyway".