European Migrant Crisis Megathread

[Laerod]

You might want to read more than just the headlines of Tagesschau.de articles. German cities have a housing crisis where there's more people than appartements. German rural areas have a housing crisis where too many houses are being built. Guess which of those could be put to use to help with the refugee crisis?

I would think most immigrants would want to end up in Berlin, Bonn or some of the other main German cities and not some rural town lost somewhere in former East Germany. :o

And if they did that they'd get deported for violating the conditions of their asylum-seeking status.

[Napkiraly]

Dutch... nationalist... anti-immigration... Quintium, is that you?

Germany has a housing crisis, they will most likely accept hundreds of thousands into their borders: Where do you think they are going to have to house them?

We could confiscate the houses of the racist loons who oppose this and use those. And since they love to deport people so much, they can deport themselves to Syria where they can protect Europe from dem ebul Moozlems by fighting against ISIS.

You know I don't agree with him, but saying we should evict people from their homes and deport them (ps it's actually impossible to deport natural citizens) for their shitty views makes you a bad person as well.

Anyway OP not all have to be or will be accepted.

[Laerod]

Dutch... nationalist... anti-immigration... Quintium, is that you?


We could confiscate the houses of the racist loons who oppose this and use those. And since they love to deport people so much, they can deport themselves to Syria where they can protect Europe from dem ebul Moozlems by fighting against ISIS.

You know I don't agree with him, but saying we should evict people from their homes and deport them (ps it's actually impossible to deport natural citizens) for their shitty views makes you a bad person as well.

Probably should read what Comrade ESR wrote again to spare yourself the embarassment.

[Napkiraly]

You know I don't agree with him, but saying we should evict people from their homes and deport them (ps it's actually impossible to deport natural citizens) for their shitty views makes you a bad person as well.

Probably should read what Comrade ESR wrote again to spare yourself the embarassment.

I know he's most likely joking but at times deep down sentiments can still be part of that to an extent.

[Geilinor]

I highly doubt that the German government would agree to accept more than it can handle. This is a centrist grand coalition government we're talking about, not some leftist one.

[Laerod]

I highly doubt that the German government would agree to accept more than it can handle. This is a centrist grand coalition government we're talking about, not some leftist one.

I highly doubt that they would say that they can handle it if they can't, which they have.

[Geilinor]

I highly doubt that the German government would agree to accept more than it can handle. This is a centrist grand coalition government we're talking about, not some leftist one.

I highly doubt that they would say that they can handle it if they can't, which they have.

I took another look at the source, I see. Other EU countries should accept more.

[Gauthier]

I wonder how many people complaining about refugees and immigrants coming to Germany complained back when Germany went to their countries?

[The Huskar Social Union]

I wonder how many people complaining about refugees and immigrants coming to Germany complained back when Germany went to their countries?

Indeed. Personally for us Irish as my mum says we have no right to complain about people coming here to seek a better life when we did it for hundreds of years trying to find better lives for our families and as a result helped propped up some of the worlds strongest countries such as the British Empire and the US. Immigrants of all walks and life's have literally been the backbone of tons of nations and powers.

[Baltenstein]

I wonder how many people complaining about refugees and immigrants coming to Germany complained back when Germany went to their countries?

Actually, there is a country today in which Germans are the largest group of immigrants - Switzerland.

And the Swiss bitch and complaint about German immigrants all the time.

[Valyrian Freeholds]

I wonder how many people complaining about refugees and immigrants coming to Germany complained back when Germany went to their countries?

Actually, there is a country today in which Germans are the largest group of immigrants - Switzerland.

And the Swiss bitch and complaint about German immigrants all the time.

But at least when germans arrive in Switzerland they know they can speak at least part of the languages.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I wonder how many people complaining about refugees and immigrants coming to Germany complained back when Germany went to their countries?

Actually, there is a country today in which Germans are the largest group of immigrants - Switzerland.

And the Swiss bitch and complaint about German immigrants all the time.

Yeah but the Swiss are the enemy of Mankind so they dont count.

Damn Neutrals and their Neutrality, it sickens me,

[Laerod]

Actually, there is a country today in which Germans are the largest group of immigrants - Switzerland.

And the Swiss bitch and complaint about German immigrants all the time.

But at least when germans arrive in Switzerland they know they can speak at least part of the languages.

More like "read".

[European Socialist Republic]

Actually, there is a country today in which Germans are the largest group of immigrants - Switzerland.

And the Swiss bitch and complaint about German immigrants all the time.

Yeah but the Swiss are the enemy of Mankind so they dont count.

Damn Neutrals and their Neutrality, it sickens me,

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality? The Swiss seem to belong to the first group.

[Valyrian Freeholds]

But at least when germans arrive in Switzerland they know they can speak at least part of the languages.

More like "read".

well I'd imagine germans would try to stick to towns were they can speak german, like Zurich.

[Eol Sha]

I highly doubt that they would say that they can handle it if they can't, which they have.

I took another look at the source, I see. Other EU countries should accept more.

Given how many right-wing governing coalitions there are, I doubt that'll be happening any time soon.

[Eol Sha]

What about the Maltese, Italians and Greeks? Should they have to face possible cultural erosion (especially in the case Malta) and a burden that Germany would be far better equipped to handle?

Of course not, but I support deportation of the "refugees" back to countries where it's safe: Tunisia, Algiers, Lebanon, Jordan...

Algiers is a city, not a country.

Anyway, none of those countries are even remotely equipped to handle a refugee crisis. Tunisia is still struggling to set up it's own democracy. Lebanon is not safe and never has been. Add the fact that Lebanon is already embroiled in conflict with the Islamic State and it'd almost be criminally negligent to send them over to Lebanon. Similar to how the Jews were turned away from American shores prior to World War II. Plus it has already accepted hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees and they can't even take care of them. The same goes for Jordan. Especially, for Jordan. The refugee crisis in Jordan is really bad. In fact, the refugee crises in these countries will only get worse as the wars in Syria and Iraq spiral further out of control.

Only the Euros have the capacity to help refugees fleeing for their lives. Well, them and the US and Canada.

[Geilinor]

I took another look at the source, I see. Other EU countries should accept more.

Given how many right-wing governing coalitions there are, I doubt that'll be happening any time soon.

Is there any way for the EU to pressure them into doing it?

[Llamalandia]

Of course not, but I support deportation of the "refugees" back to countries where it's safe: Tunisia, Algiers, Lebanon, Jordan...

Algiers is a city, not a country.

Anyway, none of those countries are even remotely equipped to handle a refugee crisis. Tunisia is still struggling to set up it's own democracy. Lebanon is not safe and never has been. Add the fact that Lebanon is already embroiled in conflict with the Islamic State and it'd almost be criminally negligent to send them over to Lebanon. Similar to how the Jews were turned away from American shores prior to World War II. Plus it has already accepted hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees and they can't even take care of them. The same goes for Jordan. Especially, for Jordan. The refugee crisis in Jordan is really bad.

Only the Euros have the capacity to help refugees fleeing for their lives. Well, them and the US and Canada.

Actually the U.S. already has way to many illegal immigrants. We could and probably should take care of that problem so that we would be able to take in these deserving refugees.

[Eol Sha]

Given how many right-wing governing coalitions there are, I doubt that'll be happening any time soon.

Is there any way for the EU to pressure them into doing it?

They can only do so much beyond pressuring Presidents and Prime Ministers. Right-wingers have never been too understanding of the EU. It wouldn't be too hard to twist Brussel's requests for help into edicts from the cabal of anti-Euro, anti-*my nation here*. At the very least, it could be bad politics.

Without national governments committed to humanitarian relief, it would seem like Spain, Greece, Italy, Sweden, and Germany will be left to deal with this issue all alone for the foreseeable future.

Interestingly enough, according to Migration Policy, Europe isn't even the top destination for refugees.

Here. More.

[Pope Joan]

People who help these migrants escape their gruesome conditions in Africa are being condemned as "human traffickers", as if they were selling the people into slavery.

That is demonizing and deliberately misleading.

The real criminals are the EU crowd who are indifferent to human suffering.

[Geilinor]

Interestingly enough, according to Migration Policy, Europe isn't even the top destination for refugees.

Here.

It isn't, but Jordan and Turkey have already taken their share and are screwed.

[Archegnum]

We Europeans can't take in every migrant in the world, whether they be asylum seeker or not. Much as I would like to help all these people, we simply cannot afford to house and feed every single one of them. The United States and Canada can and probably will help, but that does not solve the problem. Is there any conceivable way in which we can assist them in their own country, without them resorting to emigration?

Obviously, it would also help if we could ascertain which are genuinely asylum seekers and which are economic migrants.

On a personal note, I live in Kent in the United Kingdom. I know what the migrants are doing in Calais. Ordinarily, I would happily accept anyone who went through the standard legal procedure, but I do not want people who attack, vandalise and perform other criminal acts coming into my country. I believe (and hope) this is only a minority (how large of a minority, I do not know), but we cannot risk the potential damage to Kent before they reach the more attractive region up north in London. Nor should we or London be expected to accept that.

[Eol Sha]

Interestingly enough, according to Migration Policy, Europe isn't even the top destination for refugees.

Here.

It isn't, but Jordan and Turkey have already taken their share and are screwed.

Jordan especially. Ignoring demographic and social pressures created by this fresh influx of refugees, there just isn't enough water to give all of these people. Let alone clothing, shelter, and food.

[Slakonian]

Given how many right-wing governing coalitions there are, I doubt that'll be happening any time soon.

Is there any way for the EU to pressure them into doing it?

Do that, and then they won't follow suit definately, period, whatever.

Croatia last year had decreased illegal immigrants by 26%?(some say lower while other higher and I just say a "middle" number), Hungary is building a wall on Serbia to stop their influx of refugees and Bulgaria followed suit on the Turkish border, Czech police beats the shit out of the illegal immigrants in a detention center and this is only.... the beginning.

Racism will rise alot, with elections in my country this September; I believe the nationalist(aka Golden Dawn) will become the third and very strong political party in the parliament. We have almost a million homeless and our government and other leftist parties/organizations which I used to be a member care more about helping them while we can't help ourselves. The prefect recipe for a humanatarian and political crisis. Last night on the news channel two pakistanis raped a 14 year old girl in Lesbos; as a result the local residents have asked the government to contain these immigrants only to be turned down and NOW they are asking help from Golden Dawn. Needless to say Golden Dawn answered the very same day promising to send a contigency of volunteer "stormtroopers" by the end of the month: latest, although many news reporters say that the will be there by the end of this week stating that they misinform the public so that the police and other government services won't try stop them.