Is there something wrong with Multiculturalism?

[The Conez Imperium]

Like in the case of Australia let's reinstate the white-Australia policy because other cultures are bad. There's a reason why Australia scrapped it.

Reinstating it wouldn't be a bad idea. Similarly, the US should repeal the 1965 immigration act and bring back our 1924 quotas.

And that's the problem. You can be multi-ethnic but still be "mono-cultural"

[Byzantium Imperial]

I reject the label racist. It's a meaningless buzzword. However, I will not back down from accusations of it, and instead I will give you my best shit-eating grin because I'm trying to contain my disapproval with such a ridiculousness concept.

>"There's only problem with non-white cultures coming over."
>"Not a racist."

Lulz.

To be fair, if one lives in a country with a majority white culture, other white cultures are not as likely to cause problems as non white ones.

[Sam Hyde]

I reject the label racist. It's a meaningless buzzword. However, I will not back down from accusations of it, and instead I will give you my best shit-eating grin because I'm trying to contain my disapproval with such a ridiculousness concept.

>"There's only problem with non-white cultures coming over."
>"Not a racist."

Lulz.

Call me a racist, Nazi, anti-semite, islamophobe. Come on throw all of your buzzwords at me. It still doesn't change what is happening.

[Gauthier]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_enclaves_in_North_American_cities#Germany

Except for last name, Geman Americans are virtually indistinguishable from the generic American WASP template.

But apparently they're allowed to celebrate their German heritage, unlike those evil darkies. Except during both World Wars, but hey those were just rare exceptions!

[Byzantium Imperial]

Reinstating it wouldn't be a bad idea. Similarly, the US should repeal the 1965 immigration act and bring back our 1924 quotas.

And that's the problem. You can be multi-ethnic but still be "mono-cultural"

Notice that all but one person was white, and that individual was mostly obscured and very light

[Sam Hyde]

Reinstating it wouldn't be a bad idea. Similarly, the US should repeal the 1965 immigration act and bring back our 1924 quotas.

And that's the problem. You can be multi-ethnic but still be "mono-cultural"

ew propaganda.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Except for last name, Geman Americans are virtually indistinguishable from the generic American WASP template.

But apparently they're allowed to celebrate their German heritage, unlike those evil darkies. Except during both World Wars, but hey those were just rare exceptions!

Probably because they wern't fully integrated in 1917?

[Gauthier]

But apparently they're allowed to celebrate their German heritage, unlike those evil darkies. Except during both World Wars, but hey those were just rare exceptions!

Probably because they wern't fully integrated in 1917?

World War 2 happened in 1917 now?

[Confederate Ramenia]

>"There's only problem with non-white cultures coming over."
>"Not a racist."

Lulz.

Call me a racist, Nazi, anti-semite, islamophobe. Come on throw all of your buzzwords at me. It still doesn't change what is happening.

I disagree with much of what you're saying, but I must admit that you are based and not a cuck.

[Anglo-Saxon North America]

this does not say that monoculturalism is racist. it means he is a racist.

let me tell you a story. My Saxon (German, not English variety) family immigrated from Germany in the 1850s. when they arrived they completely assimilated. They refused to have their kids learn German and only taught them English. they even change their last names from Klein to Cline just to become more Anglo. they brought with them certain German foods and art, but they did not create German zones within the United States. this is why you do not see a tiny Germany in the Midwest. you can be from multiple ethnicities but all be in one culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_enclaves_in_North_American_cities#Germany

funny enough, I live not far at all from one of those. Fredericksburg, Texas. They don't:
Take offense from non-Lutheran/Catholic churches in the town
Take offense to non-German foods
Take offense to non-German architecture
Identify as non-American

The foreign influence is strong, but they're hyper-American, (not to mention western, which means even if they weren't they'd still be comparable), and even still, if they rejected Americanism and identified as German over American, they should go back to Germany. In fact, if they were genuinely foreign, I'd highly disprove.

Funny enough, that town rings more if Old West Texas then it does German.

The cultural enclaves that are literally non-American, not in just in influence, but fundamentally, should get the same treatment.

[The Conez Imperium]

And that's the problem. You can be multi-ethnic but still be "mono-cultural"

-Image Redacted-

Notice that all but one person was white, and that individual was mostly obscured and very light

I think that's nitpicking compared to the message its trying to display. I mean the poster was made in the 1940s-1950s maybe there are subtle biases but its the message I think that matters.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Probably because they wern't fully integrated in 1917?

World War 2 happened in 1917 now?

Well world war 1 as far as we were concerned started in 1917

Durring WW2, you usually had to fit it another suspicious category to be descriminated against. Your average German American got by fine


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nat ... ment_N.htm
A few thousand, out of the MILLIONS, in the united states were detained. Hardly wide spread mistreatment

[Gauthier]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_enclaves_in_North_American_cities#Germany

funny enough, I love not far at all from one of those. Fredericksburg, Texas. They don't:
Take offense from non-Lutheran/Catholic churches in the town
Take offense to non-German foods
Take offense to non-German architecture
Identify as non-American

The foreign influence is strong, but they're hyper-American, (not to mention western, which means even if they weren't they'd still be comparable), and even still, if they rejected Americanism and identified as German over American, they should go back to Germany. In fact, if they were genuinely foreign, I'd highly disprove.

Funny enough, that town rings more if Old West Texas then it does German.

And they were there for how many years compared to non-white immigrants? I don't hear about Arab or African communities in the United States that have been around just as long throwing a fit.

[Gauthier]

World War 2 happened in 1917 now?

Well world war 1 as far as we were concerned started in 1917

Durring WW2, you usually had to fit it another suspicious category to be descriminated against. Your average German American got by fine


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nat ... ment_N.htm
A few thousand, out of the MILLIONS, in the united states were detained. Hardly wide spread mistreatment

Whereas virtually every Japanese American was sent to camps.

Nope, it's not about racism at all.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Well world war 1 as far as we were concerned started in 1917

Durring WW2, you usually had to fit it another suspicious category to be descriminated against. Your average German American got by fine


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nat ... ment_N.htm
A few thousand, out of the MILLIONS, in the united states were detained. Hardly wide spread mistreatment

Whereas virtually every Japanese American was sent to camps.

Nope, it's not about racism at all.

Im not saying we wern't racist against the Japanese....

[Anglo-Saxon North America]

funny enough, I love not far at all from one of those. Fredericksburg, Texas. They don't:
Take offense from non-Lutheran/Catholic churches in the town
Take offense to non-German foods
Take offense to non-German architecture
Identify as non-American

The foreign influence is strong, but they're hyper-American, (not to mention western, which means even if they weren't they'd still be comparable), and even still, if they rejected Americanism and identified as German over American, they should go back to Germany. In fact, if they were genuinely foreign, I'd highly disprove.

Funny enough, that town rings more if Old West Texas then it does German.

And they were there for how many years compared to non-white immigrants? I don't hear about Arab or African communities in the United States that have been around just as long throwing a fit.

well they've been there since about the 1850s, same time my family arrived.
And funny, the hill-country Germans did fight the CSA. Fredericksburg was razed to the ground. Let's not pretend everyone was fine with them because "lol they're white"

[The Krogan]

World War 2 happened in 1917 now?

Well world war 1 as far as we were concerned started in 1917

Durring WW2, you usually had to fit it another suspicious category to be descriminated against. Your average German American got by fine


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nat ... ment_N.htm
A few thousand, out of the MILLIONS, in the united states were detained. Hardly wide spread mistreatment

WWI started before that bud, you guys just decided to join the fun after a few years, but off topic.

Multiculturalism seems to work fine where I'm from, no one gives a fuck.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

It was multi-national, not multicultural, much like United States is today.

While composed of many different nations and cultures, Roman society was still united by a dominant Roman culture and law, much like United States is still united by it's own distinct brand of Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture. While Roman culture, much like American culture, was no doubt profoundly influenced by it's many subject cultures, it fundamentally still remained Roman.

Rome's downfall was ultimately brought by a combination of a massive influx of people who had no loyalty whatsoever to Roman ways and values besides pragmatic gain, and the degeneration of Roman culture itself.

At it's peak, Rome controlled most of the known world, being a true superpower of it's day. It simply had no enemies left that could pose any real challenge to it. Like all empires, Rome was built upon conquest, upon that unifying struggle against a powerful external enemy against whom all who held Roman values and ways dear could rally. In the absence of such an enemy, Rome found enemies within itself, military and political leaders who lacked an outside threat to direct their ambitions against starting to fight for power amongst themselves.

The core of Roman civilization had devolved to a rabid consumer society, completely reliant on imports from around the empire while producing very little in return. Most of the provinces, inhabited by non-Latin cultures, owed little loyalty or sympathy to this parasitic core and cooperated out of simple fear of Rome's military might. However, now that this might was waning, wasted away in civil struggles, rebellions and seccession attempts would break out with varying degrees of success. Rome's neighbors also wouldn't miss a chance to snatch pieces away from the weakening giant. To protect the Empire's borders and have enough manpower to spare for their political gambits, Rome's leaders would resort increasingly to hiring barbarians to do the fighting for them.

Again, these barbarians, who usually took payment in the form of land near Rome's borders, held no loyalty or affinity for Roman culture and ways, being there simply for personal gain. This was further aggravated by Roman economy's complete reliance on slave labour (coming, obviously, from mostly non-Latin cultures), the massive population of foreign slaves and freedmen likewise having little sympathy for Roman values.

By the time the Barbarian conquests began, Rome was already an effectively-defunct power, because most of the men defending Rome were Roman in name only. It wasn't Odoacer or Attila who brought one of the world's mightiest empires to it's knees - it was the slow but unrelenting and ever-growing tide of nameless outsiders who settled or were forcibly settled in Roman lands. In the Western Empire, proper Roman culture was functionally extinct by 476, replaced by the more simplistic barbarian cultures, the Goths merely finishing the job by formally ending a state that was functionally no longer there already.

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The similarities between the fall of Rome and the modern Western civilization are disturbingly many. I think the question is not whether Western civilization is on the path of sharing Rome's fate, but at which phase of demise it currently is.

Let me know when the United States employs foreign militaries to fight its wars.

Perhaps NATO rings a bell. As well as the fact that a considerable percentage of US troops these days aren't even US citizens, having enlisted explicitly for the purpose of earning citizenship, and that trend is only increasing since there's less and less native-born American volunteers fit for service to be found.

NATO may formally be called an "alliance", but in reality it is a rather thinly-disguised US tool of global hegemony. No NATO operation takes place without US say-so, even where US forces are not involved, and no NATO operation has ever been known to run contrary to US interests. The relationship between United States and it's "allies" is more of a one between an empire and it's client states rather than an equal partnership it claims to be.

NATO was, after all, created explicitly for the purpose to advance US geopolitical goals and counter the post-war spread of Communism. It serves the exact same purpose as Rome's collection of client states served Rome.

[Vashtanaraada]

And they were there for how many years compared to non-white immigrants? I don't hear about Arab or African communities in the United States that have been around just as long throwing a fit.

well they've been there since about the 1850s, same time my family arrived.
And funny, the hill-country Germans did fight the CSA. Fredericksburg was razed to the ground. Let's not pretend everyone was fine with them because "lol they're white"

Lincoln didn't necessarily want to free the slaves, but he had to as a political statement and with pressures.
Even he didn't believe in equal rights or abolitionism. How do you really know white communities were fully anti-immigration??

[Vashtanaraada]

Let me know when the United States employs foreign militaries to fight its wars.

Perhaps NATO rings a bell. As well as the fact that a considerable percentage of US troops these days aren't even US citizens, having enlisted explicitly for the purpose of earning citizenship, and that trend is only increasing since there's less and less native-born American volunteers fit for service to be found.

NATO may formally be called an "alliance", but in reality it is a rather thinly-disguised US tool of global hegemony. No NATO operation takes place without US say-so, even where US forces are not involved, and no NATO operation has ever been known to run contrary to US interests. The relationship between United States and it's "allies" is more of a one between an empire and it's client states rather than an equal partnership it claims to be.

NATO was, after all, created explicitly for the purpose to advance US geopolitical goals and counter the post-war spread of Communism. It serves the exact same purpose as Rome's collection of client states served Rome.

The Afghan National Army's being "trained" by the US, so they can function as a friendly force and uphold a US-friendly government.

wake up mate

[Anglo-Saxon North America]

well they've been there since about the 1850s, same time my family arrived.
And funny, the hill-country Germans did fight the CSA. Fredericksburg was razed to the ground. Let's not pretend everyone was fine with them because "lol they're white"

Lincoln didn't necessarily want to free the slaves, but he had to as a political statement and with pressures.
Even he didn't believe in equal rights or abolitionism. How do you really know white communities were fully anti-immigration??

I don't see what you're getting at. This isn't about immigration. the predominantly white north was huge on immigration. entire units of the north were made of fresh off the boat Irish immigrants.

[Vashtanaraada]

Lincoln didn't necessarily want to free the slaves, but he had to as a political statement and with pressures.
Even he didn't believe in equal rights or abolitionism. How do you really know white communities were fully anti-immigration??

I don't see what you're getting at. This isn't about immigration. the predominantly white north was huge on immigration. entire units of the north were made of fresh off the boat Irish immigrants.

Apologies, I've misread people's comments, ignore the post you quoted

I meant to say pro-immigration and misread things above.
I think that cider went to me head

[Anglo-Saxon North America]

I don't see what you're getting at. This isn't about immigration. the predominantly white north was huge on immigration. entire units of the north were made of fresh off the boat Irish immigrants.

Apologies, I've misread people's comments, ignore the post you quoted

I meant to say pro-immigration and misread things above.
I think that cider went to me head

no problemo, partner

[The Nihilistic view]

Yes there is. Interculturalism should be adopted instead.

[New Werpland]

Yes there is. Interculturalism should be adopted instead.

That depends on where you live.