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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:25 am

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Ardoki wrote:I'm not gay. I'm bisexual.

That's nice, but I wasn't talking about you.

You were replying to my post. So I naturally assumed you were talking to me.

There is nothing wrong with being homosexual though, in case I sounded a little defensive (which I wasn't, I just wished to correct a perceived error in identification).
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Postby Cederland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:26 am

Well this became a shitstorm fast.

Ok, here's my question:
If you want to practice your archaic religion, why did you come to a tolerant country where it is illegal to do so? Why not go back to Palestine where people hang gays? You have the option to go to a backwards Islamic nation and practice your backwards Islamic traditions, and yet you still come to a country that has advanced past it, why?
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:26 am

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My wife has performed 3 gay marriages... Huh, who, me oh yeah yeah homosexual equality it's a family effort, we're all straight but we take action....cool part, helping write vows, taking pictures, charge? No no we didn't charge... And we managed to do it without shitting on any other person or group.

What the fuck have you done besides sputter urls online at people you don't even know anything about? I'm betting not a motherfucking thing.

You accused someone of being a nazi. Yet you get so defensive when someone does the same back to you.

Double standard confirmed.
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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:26 am

WCJNSTBH wrote:

My wife has performed 3 gay marriages... Huh, who, me oh yeah yeah homosexual equality it's a family effort, we're all straight but we take action....cool part, helping write vows, taking pictures, charge? No no we didn't charge... And we managed to do it without shitting on any other person or group.

What the fuck have you done besides sputter urls online at people you don't even know anything about? I'm betting not a motherfucking thing.
Can you please not feed this?

The issue is a callous political party, not your personal experience with homosexuals or Adoki's staggering lack of helpfulness.
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:27 am

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Ardoki wrote:Any ideology (that includes religions such as Islam and Christianity), which espouses hateful views, must be completely eliminated. We cannot allow anyone to be hateful, they should become progressive and tolerant.

I don't agree with that, people have the right to not like or hate LGBT people as long as they are not physically violent. I believe that my opinion has been misunderstood. If they wish to force their religious lifestyle on the locals, and hate the culture they are living in, they should move out.
However, since the issue of riots have been brought up, that is entirely different issue. I believe rioters whom happen to be refugees should be deported.

Let me try explaining it to you this way.
The hypothetical riot wouldn't happen merely because of homophobia. It would happen because of the intersection of poverty, racism, homophobia and a lack of political power. They are planning this against disgruntled, disenfranchised youth who have nothing to their name, and are trying to bait them to further expand the SD's fundamentally racist goals by smearing them as violent homophobic monsters following their response to a big, fat, money-filled fuck you.
Do you understand now? This isn't about LGBT rights. It's about a political group using the LGBT movement as a token to exploit a vulnerable minority for political and monetary gain.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:27 am

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Revanchism wrote:I'm surprised that you manage to grasp their goals but somehow manage to decontextualize this particular event.

Because I believe in free speech.*

*Offer not applicable to immigrants who disagree with user.
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:28 am

Cederland wrote:Well this became a shitstorm fast.

Ok, here's my question:
If you want to practice your archaic religion, why did you come to a tolerant country where it is illegal to do so? Why not go back to Palestine where people hang gays? You have the option to go to a backwards Islamic nation and practice your backwards Islamic traditions, and yet you still come to a country that has advanced past it, why?

You have to be pretty unaware to, in the midst of the Refugee Crisis, not realize why refugees can't exactly go back.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:28 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:Because I believe in free speech.*

*Offer not applicable to immigrants who disagree with user.

Nope, not at all. To immigrants and refugees that hate the country they live in, my suggestion to them that they should leave. However, if they are starting riots, they should be deported.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:30 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:*Offer not applicable to immigrants who disagree with user.

Nope, not at all. To immigrants and refugees that hate the country they live in, my suggestion to them that they should leave. However, if they are starting riots, they should be deported.

Suggestion? "Adapt or GTFO" is a hell of a lot more than just a fucking suggestion.
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Postby Cederland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:30 am

Revanchism wrote:
Cederland wrote:Well this became a shitstorm fast.

Ok, here's my question:
If you want to practice your archaic religion, why did you come to a tolerant country where it is illegal to do so? Why not go back to Palestine where people hang gays? You have the option to go to a backwards Islamic nation and practice your backwards Islamic traditions, and yet you still come to a country that has advanced past it, why?

You have to be pretty unaware to, in the midst of the Refugee Crisis, not realize why refugees can't exactly go back.

There are almost thirty muslim countries, surely they can go back to at least one of them.
Ezekiel 28-25: “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I gather the people of Israel from the nations where they have been scattered, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of the nations. Then they will live in their own land, which I gave to my servant Jacob. 26: They will live there in safety and will build houses and plant vineyards; they will live in safety when I inflict punishment on all their neighbors who maligned them. Then they will know that I am the Lord their God.”
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:32 am

Cederland wrote:
Revanchism wrote:You have to be pretty unaware to, in the midst of the Refugee Crisis, not realize why refugees can't exactly go back.

There are almost thirty muslim countries, surely they can go back to at least one of them.

I didn't realize that every single majority Muslim nation on earth has the same culture and will accept anyone from anywhere at anytime ever.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:32 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:Nope, not at all. To immigrants and refugees that hate the country they live in, my suggestion to them that they should leave. However, if they are starting riots, they should be deported.

Suggestion? "Adapt or GTFO" is a hell of a lot more than just a fucking suggestion.

And why should people have to censor themselves or change their lifestyle because if they do not, it would hurt the immigrants and refugees feelings?
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Postby Cederland » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:36 am

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Cederland wrote:There are almost thirty muslim countries, surely they can go back to at least one of them.

I didn't realize that every single majority Muslim nation on earth has the same culture and will accept anyone from anywhere at anytime ever.

So it's acceptable to push them onto people that have advanced past the 7th century, but not their fellow medieval-religioned homophobes?
Ezekiel 28-25: “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I gather the people of Israel from the nations where they have been scattered, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of the nations. Then they will live in their own land, which I gave to my servant Jacob. 26: They will live there in safety and will build houses and plant vineyards; they will live in safety when I inflict punishment on all their neighbors who maligned them. Then they will know that I am the Lord their God.”
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:38 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Suggestion? "Adapt or GTFO" is a hell of a lot more than just a fucking suggestion.

And why should people have to censor themselves or change their lifestyle because if they do not, it would hurt the immigrants and refugees feelings?

Since when was waltzing through a neighborhood populated almost exclusively by people who hate you part of anybody's lifestyle?
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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:38 am

Cederland wrote:
Revanchism wrote:I didn't realize that every single majority Muslim nation on earth has the same culture and will accept anyone from anywhere at anytime ever.

So it's acceptable to push them onto people that have advanced past the 7th century, but not their fellow medieval-religioned homophobes?

Yeah, can we not assume all Muslims are living in the dark ages? It's a rather unpleasant generalization, as well as being extremely hypocritical, seeing as some people still think Emperor Palpatine in Rome is speaking for god.

They're not the fucking serfs from the Feudal era, people.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:40 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:And why should people have to censor themselves or change their lifestyle because if they do not, it would hurt the immigrants and refugees feelings?

Since when was waltzing through a neighborhood populated almost exclusively by people who hate you part of anybody's lifestyle?

Just like homophobic Christians, it is homophobic Muslims fault that they are homophobic.
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Postby Ardoki » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:42 am

New Grestin wrote:
Cederland wrote:So it's acceptable to push them onto people that have advanced past the 7th century, but not their fellow medieval-religioned homophobes?

Yeah, can we not assume all Muslims are living in the dark ages? It's a rather unpleasant generalization, as well as being extremely hypocritical, seeing as some people still think Emperor Palpatine in Rome is speaking for god.

They're not the fucking serfs from the Feudal era, people.

Emperor Palpatine, while awesome, is not real nor in Rome.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:42 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Since when was waltzing through a neighborhood populated almost exclusively by people who hate you part of anybody's lifestyle?

Just like homophobic Christians, it is homophobic Muslims fault that they are homophobic.

Are you actually physically incapable of seeing question marks? Do your eyes skip over the squiggly bit and just see the dot at the bottom? Because you have completely failed to answer any questions I've asked.
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New Grestin wrote:
Cederland wrote:So it's acceptable to push them onto people that have advanced past the 7th century, but not their fellow medieval-religioned homophobes?

Yeah, can we not assume all Muslims are living in the dark ages? It's a rather unpleasant generalization, as well as being extremely hypocritical, seeing as some people still think Emperor Palpatine in Rome is speaking for god.

They're not the fucking serfs from the Feudal era, people.

True, not all Muslims are living in the dark ages. They are very intelligent people that embrace the modern world who happen to be Muslim. However, I believe the debate has gone like this on this thread.
Me: If refugees don't like the culture of the country that are living in, they can move out.
Everyone else: WHY DO YOU HATE MUSLIMS?!
and I focused the issue of Islam rather than my original statement and I apologize for that.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:44 am

Ardoki wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Yeah, can we not assume all Muslims are living in the dark ages? It's a rather unpleasant generalization, as well as being extremely hypocritical, seeing as some people still think Emperor Palpatine in Rome is speaking for god.

They're not the fucking serfs from the Feudal era, people.

Emperor Palpatine, while awesome, is not real nor in Rome.

People sometimes refer to Pope Benedict as Palpatine or his titles, and you can't really blame them.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:44 am

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Cannabis Islands wrote:Just like homophobic Christians, it is homophobic Muslims fault that they are homophobic.

Are you actually physically incapable of seeing question marks? Do your eyes skip over the squiggly bit and just see the dot at the bottom? Because you have completely failed to answer any questions I've asked.

I will say it before, it is Muslim's fault that they are homophobic and get angry at the sight of gay people.
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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:44 am

Ardoki wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Yeah, can we not assume all Muslims are living in the dark ages? It's a rather unpleasant generalization, as well as being extremely hypocritical, seeing as some people still think Emperor Palpatine in Rome is speaking for god.

They're not the fucking serfs from the Feudal era, people.

Emperor Palpatine, while awesome, is not real nor in Rome.

Hint: It's called a joke. The pope looks like he's fucking evil. That's the joke.
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Postby Revanchism » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:44 am

Cederland wrote:
Revanchism wrote:I didn't realize that every single majority Muslim nation on earth has the same culture and will accept anyone from anywhere at anytime ever.

So it's acceptable to push them onto people that have advanced past the 7th century, but not their fellow medieval-religioned homophobes?

You really don't know a goddamned thing about Muslims, Muslim majority nations(Which, surprise, includes Indonesia and Turkey) or the history of Islam, do you?
Since you want to play the bizarrely racist not-even-half-true-history game, why not try this: while Western Europeans were busy bashing people over the head with clubs, Muslims preserved the knowledge and culture of Greece and Rome, creating a flourishing culture full of scientific innovation.
This has been yet more not-even-half-true-history, where we barely try to truncate large spans of time into modern expressions peppered with pseudofacts.
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New Grestin wrote:
Cederland wrote:So it's acceptable to push them onto people that have advanced past the 7th century, but not their fellow medieval-religioned homophobes?

Yeah, can we not assume all Muslims are living in the dark ages? It's a rather unpleasant generalization, as well as being extremely hypocritical, seeing as some people still think Emperor Palpatine in Rome is speaking for god.

They're not the fucking serfs from the Feudal era, people.


I read the Quran, and assuming that as they're muslims, they follow it, then they are definitely in the dark ages.
I'm not a catholic so I don't get how that's hypocritical.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:46 am

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Are you actually physically incapable of seeing question marks? Do your eyes skip over the squiggly bit and just see the dot at the bottom? Because you have completely failed to answer any questions I've asked.

I will say it before, it is Muslim's fault that they are homophobic and get angry at the sight of gay people.

The squiggly bit above the period means that I have asked you to respond, specifically, to the things mentioned before the squiggly-over-period.
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