Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS) II

[Seraven]

quite.

Until we radically change the way we got about business, nothing will change. We are actually very lucky it's just ISIS we're dealing with.

And I want to stress that it's not just the West either. The Third World governments ain't exactly doing their people any favors either.

As for Russia leaving Syria, all I can say is that Putin will be painted out to be a smart man about it whilst the West, dumb by comparison to people, will still keep relying on air strikes, desperate to avoid sending ground troops like it knows it needs to.

If people think ISIS is going to just burn itself out, that's fine. Chances are it probably will. But then what? That's why plans need to start being made for that and other potential outcomes.

But I think everything hinges on the American election, really. I'd say the UK's referendum over leaving the EU or not would too, but let's be honest, the UK is not leaving the EU. They'll vote to stay and a la Scotland's referendum, people will be claiming it was all rigged, etc for years.

Trump is planning to send another military invasion to Syria, right? I recalled him said that along the lines of his "foreign policy" while campaigning.

[Staythefout]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/19 ... -says.html
We just lost one of our boys to an RPG attack...we've been fighting them for two years and we get nothing. Bring on Desert Storm II

[Wallenburg]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/19/american-soldier-killed-in-isis-rocket-attack-in-northern-iraq-official-says.html
We just lost one of our boys to an RPG attack...we've been fighting them for two years and we get nothing. Bring on Desert Storm II

This is why our foreign policy sucks. One American dies and people want to turn an entire country into plate glass.

[Staythefout]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/19/american-soldier-killed-in-isis-rocket-attack-in-northern-iraq-official-says.html
We just lost one of our boys to an RPG attack...we've been fighting them for two years and we get nothing. Bring on Desert Storm II

This is why our foreign policy sucks. One American dies and people want to turn an entire country into plate glass.

You don't have to do that...but two years and zero progress is not a war, it's prolonging the inevitable. Also it wasn't just our guy who died, how about the two hundred killed in paris?

[Wallenburg]

This is why our foreign policy sucks. One American dies and people want to turn an entire country into plate glass.

You don't have to do that...but two years and zero progress is not a war, it's prolonging the inevitable. Also it wasn't just our guy who died, how about the two hundred killed in paris?

There are a lot of cities named Paris in the US, but I don't see any that have been attacked by ISIS.

As to the progress, we have made progress, but I agree that it is unsatisfactory. I'm not a military expert, so I'm not sure the right way to go about winning. I leave that to those more familiar with winning wars.

[Valaran]

I'm not a military expert, so I'm not sure the right way to go about winning.

No one is. In part as no one is actually focusing on a 'best' way to win - they are focusing on 'a least costly' way. No nation involved/in the Middle East aside from France (and Iraqi Kurdistan) has defeating IS as a priority, so no one will devote enough energy to doing so.

[Napkiraly]

You don't have to do that...but two years and zero progress is not a war, it's prolonging the inevitable. Also it wasn't just our guy who died, how about the two hundred killed in paris?

There are a lot of cities named Paris in the US, but I don't see any that have been attacked by ISIS.

You know which Paris he is talking about.

[Wallenburg]

There are a lot of cities named Paris in the US, but I don't see any that have been attacked by ISIS.

You know which Paris he is talking about.

Two hundred Americans were not killed in Paris.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You know which Paris he is talking about.

Two hundred Americans were not killed in Paris.

He never said there were.

[Wallenburg]

Two hundred Americans were not killed in Paris.

He never said there were.

This is why our foreign policy sucks. One American dies and people want to turn an entire country into plate glass.

You don't have to do that...but two years and zero progress is not a war, it's prolonging the inevitable. Also it wasn't just our guy who died, how about the two hundred killed in paris?

[United Marxist Nations]

He never said there were.

You don't have to do that...but two years and zero progress is not a war, it's prolonging the inevitable. Also it wasn't just our guy who died, how about the two hundred killed in paris?

You are misreading that. He is saying something to the effect of "it wasn't just an American who died, but two hundred people killed in Paris".

[Washington Resistance Army]

He never said there were.

You don't have to do that...but two years and zero progress is not a war, it's prolonging the inevitable. Also it wasn't just our guy who died, how about the two hundred killed in paris?

Yeah, I'm not seeing where he said 200 Americans died in Paris. He said "it wasn't just our guy", it might just be me but that seems to say it wasn't just an American but these other people too.

[Napkiraly]

You are misreading that. He is saying something to the effect of "it wasn't just an American who died, but two hundred people killed in Paris".

^This. He said it wasn't just an American who has been killed. It's also not just those in Paris. The Yazidis, Christians, Kurds, Shias and innocent Sunnis have also all suffered.

[Ganos Lao]

You are misreading that. He is saying something to the effect of "it wasn't just an American who died, but two hundred people killed in Paris".

^This. He said it wasn't just an American who has been killed. It's also not just those in Paris. The Yazidis, Christians, Kurds, Shias and innocent Sunnis have also all suffered.

And they will all continue to suffer. Because the tears of the sufferers are money to the profiteers.

[The Nuclear Fist]

I voted for Thunderdome.

[Ganos Lao]

I voted for Thunderdome.

And no tears were shed.

[Gauthier]

I voted for Thunderdome.

And no tears were shed.

Problem being, they could just grab anyone off the street and post "ISIS" on social media. Like how you could take one porn film and turn it into several different ones with how you title it.

[Ganos Lao]

And no tears were shed.

Problem being, they could just grab anyone off the street and post "ISIS" on social media. Like how you could take one porn film and turn it into several different ones with how you title it.

That's true. But I was merely making the observation based on the comments on that article and the likely response here. Of course, one would hope there was definite proof that these captured people were ISIS militants.

If not, then it just goes to show what I've mentioned multiple times prior.

[Great Feng]

Any new news since March 3rd?

[The balkens]

Any new news since March 3rd?

ISIS got fucked up by the SAA, and is probably desperate. Hence what happened in Europe.

[Novus America]

Any new news since March 3rd?

ISIS got fucked up by the SAA, and is probably desperate. Hence what happened in Europe.

As long as the truce between the SAA and opposition forces holds, ISIS has a problem. Before they fought each other. Now both are fighting ISIS.

[The Alma Mater]

Any new news since March 3rd?

ISIS got fucked up by the SAA, and is probably desperate. Hence what happened in Europe.

Why the hence ? What happened in Europe has been the highly effective strategy of IS all along.

[Gauthier]

ISIS got fucked up by the SAA, and is probably desperate. Hence what happened in Europe.

Why the hence ? What happened in Europe has been the highly effective strategy of IS all along.

Every time they lose territory the Daeshbags plan a terror attack to reinforce their jihadi street cred.

[The Alma Mater]

Why the hence ? What happened in Europe has been the highly effective strategy of IS all along.

Every time they lose territory the Daeshbags plan a terror attack to reinforce their jihadi street cred.

They also just use it as a viable combat strategy. Spend a few bucks and a couple of martyrs, force the enemy to spend millions.
It is a brilliant simple strategy. Which works.

[Novus America]

Every time they lose territory the Daeshbags plan a terror attack to reinforce their jihadi street cred.

They also just use it as a viable combat strategy. Spend a few bucks and a couple of martyrs, force the enemy to spend millions.
It is a brilliant simple strategy. Which works.

Also they are really seperate fights. Driving ISIS from Iraq and Syria will not drive them from Molenbeek. ISIS is not a battlefield or conventional threat, they do better with small cells launching terror attacks then they ever will on the battlefield.