Are the IRA Heroes?

[WCJNSTBH]

Derry. And you forget how we beat the British army to the negotiation table even when the ulster terrorists commited travesty.

Once again, there is no "we". And you don't really beat anyone to the negotiating table.

This attitude is why it's hard to take any of your pints seriously.

I always take my pints seriously. I will seriously take any pint.

[Marcurix]

is anyone else getting really embarrassed right now

Just now? Been more than a few embarrassing things in this thread.

[Benian Republic]

Derry. And you forget how we beat the British army to the negotiation table even when the ulster terrorists commited travesty.

Once again, there is no "we". And you don't really beat anyone to the negotiating table.

This attitude is why it's hard to take any of your points seriously.

There is a we it is nationalists.

And what are those points?

[Marcurix]

Once again, there is no "we". And you don't really beat anyone to the negotiating table.

This attitude is why it's hard to take any of your points seriously.

There is a we it is nationalists.

And what are those points?

No, we implies involvement. You were not involved. It's such a detached attitude from the reality of the situation that your previous calls to continue past conflicts can only be rooted in ignorance of what that kind of situation that brings.

[Benian Republic]

There is a we it is nationalists.

And what are those points?

No, we implies involvement. You were not involved. It's such a detached attitude from the reality of the situation that your previous calls to continue past conflicts can only be rooted in ignorance of what that kind of situation that brings.

Those conflicts are all that brings possibility of reunification.

[Marcurix]

No, we implies involvement. You were not involved. It's such a detached attitude from the reality of the situation that your previous calls to continue past conflicts can only be rooted in ignorance of what that kind of situation that brings.

Those conflicts are all that brings possibility of reunification.

Only if you haven't been paying attention. If you have and still think that, you're so far out of step with both sides of the border you won't do well no matter which country you're part of.

Realistically, all of your suggestions impede reunification, if anything.

[Benian Republic]

Those conflicts are all that brings possibility of reunification.

Only if you haven't been paying attention. If you have and still think that, you're so far out of step with both sides of the border you won't do well no matter which country you're part of.

Realistically, all of your suggestions impede reunification, if anything.

No not at all.

[Marcurix]

Only if you haven't been paying attention. If you have and still think that, you're so far out of step with both sides of the border you won't do well no matter which country you're part of.

Realistically, all of your suggestions impede reunification, if anything.

No not at all.

Yes, and rather than take your approach and do the whole eyes shut and plugged ears thing, I'm going to explain why.

Further conflict means more death, more injuries, more hate, more conflict, more economic, social, psychological, cultural and other such damage.

Rather than getting people to work together, which is the current route, it divides them. It entrenches the hardliners and makes compromise harder.

So it certainly won't encourage reunification. That's not counting that the ROI probably won't want to take on the increasing costs caused from said damage, and that EU countries won't support it either.

This isn't even counting that mass deportation suggesting pages back, which violates Ireland's, and almost ever nations in Europe's, commitments to several international treaties. Basically making that a being no-go for reunification.

So yea, it impedes your goal. Shortsightedness at its finest.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

No f**king Irish person I know supports the f**king IRA. They are bunch of savage cowards. The same with the UVF and the British Army.

I was going to argue, but then you included other military forces, so I guess we're good here.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

your forget how we shut the gates of Londonderry in your faces and shouted no Surrender

You didn't do that, though. You're a young introverted American teen who longs for the good ol' days of white supremacy and ultraconservatism, yes?

[WCJNSTBH]

your forget how we shut the gates of Londonderry in your faces and shouted no Surrender

You didn't do that, though. You're a young introverted American teen who longs for the good ol' days of white supremacy and ultraconservatism, yes?

Filthy reader!

[Prussia-Steinbach]

You didn't do that, though. You're a young introverted American teen who longs for the good ol' days of white supremacy and ultraconservatism, yes?

Filthy reader!

...what?

[WCJNSTBH]

Filthy reader!

...what?

Its a joke.
You read his sig, Scottish American, his affinity for "Rhodesia" etc etc

[Prussia-Steinbach]

...what?

Its a joke.
You read his sig, Scottish American, his affinity for "Rhodesia" etc etc

I've had a myriad of discussions with the poster in the past few months, and exchanged a TG or two.

I've heard all this from the horse's mouth.

[WCJNSTBH]

Its a joke.
You read his sig, Scottish American, his affinity for "Rhodesia" etc etc

I've had a myriad of discussions with the poster in the past few months, and exchanged a TG or two.

I've heard all this from the horse's mouth.

Yeah, me too. In his sig.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Yeah, me too. In his sig.

...I didn't need his sig to know any of that. I didn't even read his sig in this instance.

[Colonial Rhodesia]

your forget how we shut the gates of Londonderry in your faces and shouted no Surrender

You didn't do that, though. You're a young introverted American teen who longs for the good ol' days of white supremacy and ultraconservatism, yes?

Conservatism and Colonialism but White supremacy no I am 25% black African

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Conservatism and Colonialism...

Thanks for the confirmation.

[Colonial Rhodesia]

Conservatism and Colonialism...

Thanks for the confirmation.

I do however view that Black Majority rule must happen gradually so that the natives can effectively govern themselves without acting like Robert Mugabe or setting up one party states and the like.

[Ardnagran]

No.

They were brave men who felt they had no other recourse but to use force against British military, police and politicians along with loyalist paramilitaries (something I can understand and could have supported) but unfortunately they also didn't give much thought to civilian collateral. They're no more heroes than the British Army were.

[United States Kingdom]

What is their policy on the Falklands/Malvinas?

What relevance does this have?

Also, it depends on how you look at it.

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

IRA were ISIL of their day. BUT they made Peace. I don't see ISIL making Peace any time soon

[Alyakia]

IRA were ISIL of their day.

no they weren't

[Bojikami]

I believe they are heroic in the sense that they have fought for the independence of their homeland.

[Benian Republic]

GUYS LET THIS DISCUSSION DIE